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Hide the crotch flap.
GrizzlyTank
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Nearly 10 years have passed since the release of this game and people have asked to have an option to hide those even back then...
And still no options to hide this obnoxious design decision.
If anything the flap should have been a part of the belt instead, like had 4 belt versions (Buckle only, flap, hips, all).
And still no options to hide this obnoxious design decision.
If anything the flap should have been a part of the belt instead, like had 4 belt versions (Buckle only, flap, hips, all).
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NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I find the hip flaps worse, but being able to hide all of them would be fantastic, and is indeed something we have asked so, so many times over the years.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!25 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭we need to be able to hide the loincloths and tassets.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind the crotch flap. The floating hip things are more annoying.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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wilykcat✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
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Tenthirty2✭✭✭✭✭
✭Throwing my well used "I'd Love This!" default statement in to support this.
Some front and back flaps being hidden would make sense and look MUCH better.
For many of the "heavy" variants they make more sense. But most medium and especially light designs they look cheesy and out of place.
The hips flaps that float way off the hips NEED to go as well. So many cool motifs that are wrecked by that >.<- "Some enjoy bringing grief to others. They remind M'aiq of mudcrabs - horrible creatures, with no redeeming qualities."
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Warhawke_80✭✭✭✭✭
✭There are way way too many other things that need to be addressed before they get around to hiding Crotch flaps...I'm pretty sure people would come after them with Torches & Pitchforks (Metaphorically)
I can hear it now
'We still don't have X...but hey thanks for hiding our crotch flaps!"
Yeah bad idea...““Elric knew. The sword told him, without words of any sort. Stormbringer needed to fight, for that was its reason for existence...”― Michael Moorcock, Elric of Melniboné3 -
Sakiri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
Thats what costumes are for.
I'd rather not turn this COMPLETELY into ffxiv fashion, though more skimpy stuff would be nice
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Warhawke_80 wrote: »There are way way too many other things that need to be addressed before they get around to hiding Crotch flaps...I'm pretty sure people would come after them with Torches & Pitchforks (Metaphorically)
I can hear it now
'We still don't have X...but hey thanks for hiding our crotch flaps!"
Yeah bad idea...
Well... considering people have asked for hiding the loincloth/tassets for about 10 years, I'd say it has a pretty high priority for a lot of people. And yes, I consider it as an important thing as well.9 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kind of weird that they have chosen to draw attention to this area with flappy, wavy pieces of cloth. But they seem to be happy with the design.
A toggle to remove them would be awesome.6 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
Thats what costumes are for.
I'd rather not turn this COMPLETELY into ffxiv fashion, though more skimpy stuff would be nice
How would the option to hide crotch and hip flaps turn outfits into that? Most of the time they are completely pointless "decoration" that ruins many outfits, constantly clipping into the characters legs, arms, hands, and other pieces of armour and weapons. Also makes it difficult to mix styles.
Sometimes we get cases such as the Dead Keeper light, like what's the reasoning for those floating slabs of metal? They ruin a perfectly nice robe. What's worse, is that the medium and heavy version of the style doesn't have them.
[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!12 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As I've oft said in other similar threads, I'd like to see all bits that attach at the waist moved from chests to belts. That would allow tons more flexibility. Plenty of work to make it happen I should think but well worth it if the game is serious about a long lifespan.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo6 -
Nharimlur_Finor✭✭✭✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »Sometimes we get cases such as the Dead Keeper light, like what's the reasoning for those floating slabs of metal? They ruin a perfectly nice robe. What's worse, is that the medium and heavy version of the style doesn't have them.
What astounds me is that in the face of this total lack of developer logic, players still feel that they can rationally argue with the creators for a change.6 -
Sakiri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
Thats what costumes are for.
I'd rather not turn this COMPLETELY into ffxiv fashion, though more skimpy stuff would be nice
How would the option to hide crotch and hip flaps turn outfits into that? Most of the time they are completely pointless "decoration" that ruins many outfits, constantly clipping into the characters legs, arms, hands, and other pieces of armour and weapons. Also makes it difficult to mix styles.
Sometimes we get cases such as the Dead Keeper light, like what's the reasoning for those floating slabs of metal? They ruin a perfectly nice robe. What's worse, is that the medium and heavy version of the style doesn't have them.
My comment was about the plain stuff. Ffxiv is full of store bought and crafted casual wear. Night gowns and fuzzy slippers to sweats, goodies and the glory that is the 2b legs, which is just a pair of panties and thigh high stockings. And yes, I have stilettos to match.
As much as I like say, those legs plus hempen camise on female highlanders, I don't want it in eso.
The combo looks like it belongs on a dominatrix.3 -
r34lian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Remember when we couldn't hide floating shoulders? Now we can after all these years
I hope they remove floating hip flaps as well along with crotch ones. So many good motifs ruined because of it.2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton5 -
AnduinTryggva✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah the hip thingy is on some motifs really a pain to see.
I however wonder if this is somewhat related to the one hand weapons...0 -
ghastley✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can we convince them that these are really small capes? We know they don’t like capes, and the same issues of clipping come into play.4 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AnduinTryggva wrote: »Yeah the hip thingy is on some motifs really a pain to see.
I however wonder if this is somewhat related to the one hand weapons...
Personally, I think it related to limitations from before launch with how the game is designed (skeleton, 3D models, animation, etc). Maybe to reduce clipping, simplify animation, or due to limited bones that could be used to articulate that area of the body. DX9, upon which this game was originally built, apparently limited the game early on. Even though the game has moved on from DX9, we may still be living with those decisions.Edited by Elsonso on 17 March 2024 14:21XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
Thats what costumes are for.
I'd rather not turn this COMPLETELY into ffxiv fashion, though more skimpy stuff would be nice
How would the option to hide crotch and hip flaps turn outfits into that? Most of the time they are completely pointless "decoration" that ruins many outfits, constantly clipping into the characters legs, arms, hands, and other pieces of armour and weapons. Also makes it difficult to mix styles.
Sometimes we get cases such as the Dead Keeper light, like what's the reasoning for those floating slabs of metal? They ruin a perfectly nice robe. What's worse, is that the medium and heavy version of the style doesn't have them.
My comment was about the plain stuff. Ffxiv is full of store bought and crafted casual wear. Night gowns and fuzzy slippers to sweats, goodies and the glory that is the 2b legs, which is just a pair of panties and thigh high stockings. And yes, I have stilettos to match.
As much as I like say, those legs plus hempen camise on female highlanders, I don't want it in eso.
The combo looks like it belongs on a dominatrix.
No one is asking for any of that, though. We just want to hide the tassets like the hip and crotch flaps on our existing styles.
I also want more styles that is casual clothing, but then of course it shall be Tamriel casual clothing. Hence why I was very annoyed by the flaps ruining the Dead Keeper light. They'd work excellent as dunmer clothes.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!5 -
Sakiri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
Thats what costumes are for.
I'd rather not turn this COMPLETELY into ffxiv fashion, though more skimpy stuff would be nice
How would the option to hide crotch and hip flaps turn outfits into that? Most of the time they are completely pointless "decoration" that ruins many outfits, constantly clipping into the characters legs, arms, hands, and other pieces of armour and weapons. Also makes it difficult to mix styles.
Sometimes we get cases such as the Dead Keeper light, like what's the reasoning for those floating slabs of metal? They ruin a perfectly nice robe. What's worse, is that the medium and heavy version of the style doesn't have them.
My comment was about the plain stuff. Ffxiv is full of store bought and crafted casual wear. Night gowns and fuzzy slippers to sweats, goodies and the glory that is the 2b legs, which is just a pair of panties and thigh high stockings. And yes, I have stilettos to match.
As much as I like say, those legs plus hempen camise on female highlanders, I don't want it in eso.
The combo looks like it belongs on a dominatrix.
No one is asking for any of that, though. We just want to hide the tassets like the hip and crotch flaps on our existing styles.
I also want more styles that is casual clothing, but then of course it shall be Tamriel casual clothing. Hence why I was very annoyed by the flaps ruining the Dead Keeper light. They'd work excellent as dunmer clothes.
Thats what costumes are for.0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Remember when we couldn't hide floating shoulders? Now we can after all these years
I hope they remove floating hip flaps as well along with crotch ones. So many good motifs ruined because of it.
Not the same thing. When you hide the shoulder piece you are hiding the entire piece. What is being asked for is removing just a part of the chest piece. That means a complete redesign of the piece to get rid of the flap. Would mean every chest piece with the flap would need to have two different versions. One with flap and one without.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."6 -
ghastley✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They are obviously an integral and required part of how chest pieces work, which is why Order of the Hour doesn't have them.
I'd be happy if they didn't get included on every new style that comes out, so there would be more options not to have them.0 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »I've seen this topic many times before, so I agree.
The game needs a toggle to hide the side and waistline accessories(flaps). Also more armor that resembles normal looking shirts and pants.
Thats what costumes are for.
I'd rather not turn this COMPLETELY into ffxiv fashion, though more skimpy stuff would be nice
How would the option to hide crotch and hip flaps turn outfits into that? Most of the time they are completely pointless "decoration" that ruins many outfits, constantly clipping into the characters legs, arms, hands, and other pieces of armour and weapons. Also makes it difficult to mix styles.
Sometimes we get cases such as the Dead Keeper light, like what's the reasoning for those floating slabs of metal? They ruin a perfectly nice robe. What's worse, is that the medium and heavy version of the style doesn't have them.
My comment was about the plain stuff. Ffxiv is full of store bought and crafted casual wear. Night gowns and fuzzy slippers to sweats, goodies and the glory that is the 2b legs, which is just a pair of panties and thigh high stockings. And yes, I have stilettos to match.
As much as I like say, those legs plus hempen camise on female highlanders, I don't want it in eso.
The combo looks like it belongs on a dominatrix.
No one is asking for any of that, though. We just want to hide the tassets like the hip and crotch flaps on our existing styles.
I also want more styles that is casual clothing, but then of course it shall be Tamriel casual clothing. Hence why I was very annoyed by the flaps ruining the Dead Keeper light. They'd work excellent as dunmer clothes.
Thats what costumes are for.
Why? They are definitely not for that specific goal, and we have styles without flaps already, they are just fewer. I can't mix my own costume.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!3 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Remember when we couldn't hide floating shoulders? Now we can after all these years
I hope they remove floating hip flaps as well along with crotch ones. So many good motifs ruined because of it.
Not the same thing. When you hide the shoulder piece you are hiding the entire piece. What is being asked for is removing just a part of the chest piece. That means a complete redesign of the piece to get rid of the flap. Would mean every chest piece with the flap would need to have two different versions. One with flap and one without.
They don't, they are clearly seperate items, because argonians and khajiit automatically have the back flap removed for their tails, and a lot of npcs can be seen with "flapless" versions of styles.
There was also a "Hide tassets" once found hidden in some files.[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!6 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »Remember when we couldn't hide floating shoulders? Now we can after all these years
I hope they remove floating hip flaps as well along with crotch ones. So many good motifs ruined because of it.
Not the same thing. When you hide the shoulder piece you are hiding the entire piece. What is being asked for is removing just a part of the chest piece. That means a complete redesign of the piece to get rid of the flap. Would mean every chest piece with the flap would need to have two different versions. One with flap and one without.
They don't, they are clearly seperate items, because argonians and khajiit automatically have the back flap removed for their tails, and a lot of npcs can be seen with "flapless" versions of styles.
There was also a "Hide tassets" once found hidden in some files.
They were designed with those Argonians and Khajiit in mind with the missing back side. Basically two separate armors with the same name kind of like some hair designs are race specific. The front flaps are a part of the armor. Some people like the flaps so to remove the flaps they would have to create a new armor piece without the flap. By having a set with and a set without that keeps/makes people happy but it does mean going back and doing redesigns on those armor pieces.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
GrizzlyTank✭✭✭
They were designed with those Argonians and Khajiit in mind with the missing back side. Basically two separate armors with the same name kind of like some hair designs are race specific. The front flaps are a part of the armor. Some people like the flaps so to remove the flaps they would have to create a new armor piece without the flap. By having a set with and a set without that keeps/makes people happy but it does mean going back and doing redesigns on those armor pieces.
Though assuming all armor use the same template, shouldn't it be possible to make a quick way to mirror them all but with the flaps hidden?
Or a way to tell the game to hide those particular pieces after loading.Edited by GrizzlyTank on 18 March 2024 14:321 -
Panderbander✭✭✭✭✭Remember when we couldn't hide floating shoulders? Now we can after all these years
I hope they remove floating hip flaps as well along with crotch ones. So many good motifs ruined because of it.
Not the same thing. When you hide the shoulder piece you are hiding the entire piece. What is being asked for is removing just a part of the chest piece. That means a complete redesign of the piece to get rid of the flap. Would mean every chest piece with the flap would need to have two different versions. One with flap and one without.
They already hide individual parts of some costume pieces on Argonians and Khajiit. None of the "back flaps" are rendered on these races. It's pretty clear these items on the mesh use a separate submesh and can likely have their shader toggled like is done with the beast race butts.Leader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"5
