Because conceding is also disrespectful towards other paying customers' time and effort.

And the penalty is only a couple of minutes, which seems proportional enough to me.

Conceding is admitting defeat. How is that disrespectful?

LunaFlora wrote: »

do not concede and you shall not get the penalty.

That is incorrect. The concede penalty is also given to players who lose their connection to the game or are otherwise kicked out of a TOT match within it's first 10 minutes.

araminta63 wrote: »

I fail to understand why you feel like I should be punished...

When I concede, I deserve punishment as well.

It's just an incentive to stop people from running away all the time. Stop crying over a few minutes of time penalty.

Braffin wrote: »

I don't think those "penalty" is meant to punish players for conceding by any means.

It's a mechanism to prevent abuse of the system. If there wouldn't be any time penalty one could queue and concede all the time without even the slightest interruption.

Any trolls would obviously be delighted by such a chance.

Let's say that a few people do that and via win rewards a hundred extra iron ore entre the economy. So what?

Braffin wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I don't think those "penalty" is meant to punish players for conceding by any means.

It's a mechanism to prevent abuse of the system. If there wouldn't be any time penalty one could queue and concede all the time without even the slightest interruption.

Any trolls would obviously be delighted by such a chance.

Let's say that a few people do that and via win rewards a hundred extra iron ore entre the economy. So what?

I'm not talking about rewards, but the choice between being set on a rather short CD on the one hand, or being repeatedly thrown out of a game you wanted to play because your opponents play the conceding-game.

You could look at the times before group finder (for dungeons) got a similar penalty added. Most players trying to use it reported that the group were left by at least one party member at the very beginning, because lots of players "gambled" for an easier dungeon.

Not what I call a satisfactory experience: Waiting in the queue, left alone by other player, requeue, left alone again. Repeat at you leisure.

So concede penalty kicks in for people abusing the system. There, no more issues.

Braffin wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

I don't think those "penalty" is meant to punish players for conceding by any means.

It's a mechanism to prevent abuse of the system. If there wouldn't be any time penalty one could queue and concede all the time without even the slightest interruption.

Any trolls would obviously be delighted by such a chance.

Let's say that a few people do that and via win rewards a hundred extra iron ore entre the economy. So what?

I'm not talking about rewards, but the choice between being set on a rather short CD on the one hand, or being repeatedly thrown out of a game you wanted to play because your opponents play the conceding-game.

You could look at the times before group finder (for dungeons) got a similar penalty added. Most players trying to use it reported that the group were left by at least one party member at the very beginning, because lots of players "gambled" for an easier dungeon.

Not what I call a satisfactory experience: Waiting in the queue, left alone by other player, requeue, left alone again. Repeat at you leisure.

So concede penalty kicks in for people abusing the system. There, no more issues.

Yes, that's an interesting thought: If you concede once, nothing happens. If you concede twice within X minutes you get the penalty. Seems resonable to me.

Where some of the issue comes from is that there are some pretty high chance to win combinations that can be purchased within the first couple turns of the game. This issue is becoming worse as the designers change more cards to be great first player pickups and continue to not change overpowered cards. It gets tricky is that even if a player has a super strong early lead, it could take the combination of time for both players 10 minutes just for 40 prestige to be reached.

I've both told opponents and been told by many opponents to "please win as fast as possible" while it's a chore to even get a patron victory because of how Celarus works.

The bare minimum that the designers could provide is a free concede every 10 minutes.

Also you not only get trolled with that stupid concede penalty you get a double penalty by not getting any loser reward.

Douple penalties are strictly FORBIDDEN in most democratic legal systems. But HERE in ESO you not only are deprived of the white box (which is ok) but ON TOP you get a ban for 10 min to play ToT.

I don't see how this could help. In both cases you have to wait for 10 min. You understand that it is this enforced waiting time that is an issue?