How is a tab target game from way back far superior in the combat department

TheMessengerOfDeath · January 5

Make it make sense how is ESO combat so lackluster compared to far older games. Sigh.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1_nfust-_a8&t=811s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8awLlK8H0A

Artim_X · January 5

In my honest opinion based just on the video in the original post, ESO's combat is superior. It really depends on how one chooses to play the game.

TaSheen · January 5

Combat sucks no matter the game. Just give me a way to gain XP without killing stuff.

CameraBeardThePirate · January 5

I'd say a good portion of the playerbase, and likely an even bigger portion of PvPers specifically, strongly disagree with that sentiment. The fast paced action combat is part of what makes ESO's combat what it is, and it's what draws players like myself.

Braffin · January 5

There are still a few tab-target games around, if you prefer those. Eso isn't one of them.

ZOS_Hadeostry · January 5

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's about PvP combat.

Thank you for your understanding

Uvi_AUT · January 5

Aion had good Combat for a MMO., but lacked in almost all other parts of the game. But lets be honest, no MMO has great combat.

Rhaegar75 · January 5

Played AION and other tab target mmos: after playing ESO I can't go back to tab target - it feels too static and boring. Lately I tried to make myself like FFIV and really couldn't due to the static combat.

ESO's combat is far from perfect but definitely superior to any tab target game I've tried. Like others have already said: it's a question of personal preference.

Pelanora · January 5

TaSheen wrote: »

Combat sucks no matter the game. Just give me a way to gain XP without killing stuff.

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TheMessengerOfDeath · January 5

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

Aion had good Combat for a MMO., but lacked in almost all other parts of the game. But lets be honest, no MMO has great combat.

Aion had the best combat of any mmo but yeah it was pretty bad in every other aspect. Sorta why it failed but at least that and the maps were great. ESO excels at a lot but the combat just leaves a lot to be desired. Feels so lack luster

GooGa592 · January 5

TaSheen wrote: »

Combat sucks no matter the game. Just give me a way to gain XP without killing stuff.

Wha? Huh? Why you play ESO then? In fact, every Elder Scrolls game has had a fair amount of combat as it's main content.

ESO's strongest feature and what makes it great is the combat. It's an MMO and all that ya know. Not having to tab target is the single biggest reason ESO combat is better than other MMO's, although it's not the only thing that makes ESO combat better than other games.

Since the beginning ZOS reps have told us they would focus on the great combat system. It's too bad the devs now don't share that opinion.

Uvi_AUT · January 7

TheMessengerOfDeath wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

Aion had good Combat for a MMO., but lacked in almost all other parts of the game. But lets be honest, no MMO has great combat.

Aion had the best combat of any mmo but yeah it was pretty bad in every other aspect. Sorta why it failed but at least that and the maps were great. ESO excels at a lot but the combat just leaves a lot to be desired. Feels so lack luster

Exactly. ESO has abysmal combat, I really hate it. But it does almost everything else well. Especially the Worldbuilding is better than any other MMO

reazea · January 7

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

TheMessengerOfDeath wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

Aion had good Combat for a MMO., but lacked in almost all other parts of the game. But lets be honest, no MMO has great combat.

Aion had the best combat of any mmo but yeah it was pretty bad in every other aspect. Sorta why it failed but at least that and the maps were great. ESO excels at a lot but the combat just leaves a lot to be desired. Feels so lack luster

Exactly. ESO has abysmal combat, I really hate it. But it does almost everything else well. Especially the Worldbuilding is better than any other MMO

ESO's combat system is what makes the game unique and fun. It's what makes ESO stand out vs. other combat oriented games. Sure, it's a bit more complicated to dial in your rotations and timing, but that's where the skill gap comes from. ESO isn't a point and shoot with one button game, thankfully.

gariondavey · January 7

Eso combat and gear theorycrafting are the best things the game has going for it other than elder scrolls op.

SeaGtGruff · January 8

But you can use tab-targetting in ESO if you want to. /shrug

Edit: This particular video is for console:

https://youtu.be/DfE9vvNsqKw?si=SnLXMHQ6k4mgaElj

TheMessengerOfDeath · January 8

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

But you can use tab-targetting in ESO if you want to. /shrug

You can but the skills, animations and flow of the combat is still very lackluster. The warden and Necro have some pretty sick styles though. Rest look like they were made for mobile

Amottica · January 8

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

I'd say a good portion of the playerbase, and likely an even bigger portion of PvPers specifically, strongly disagree with that sentiment. The fast paced action combat is part of what makes ESO's combat what it is, and it's what draws players like myself.

I agree with this. I fail to see how any part of combat that I saw in the video is superior to ESO. It is very simplistic and that is not taking into account the antiquated graphics.

Pixiepumpkin · January 8

Talk about antiquated graphics, have you been to the base game zones in ESO?

The combat in ESO looks and plays the same pretty much for any class, watch any PVP streamer, they all look the same. I always felt the combat in WOW was more dynamic. I was much more acrobatic and able to cat/mouse on my hunter than any class in ESO. I also miss having tons of fun abiliites and better control over pets, not to mention actual ranged classes (ESO "ranged" is really mid range, not long range).

If WOW had housing, I'd probably be playing there although I do love me some High Isle. God that zone needs to be used more.

SandandStars · January 15

i think eso combat would be exceptionally good if what we have simply worked (pvp perspective)

there’s so much potential, but chronic bugs and lag/desync server performance issues undercut it

GooGa592 · January 15

TheMessengerOfDeath wrote: »

Make it make sense how is ESO combat so lackluster compared to far older games. Sigh.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1_nfust-_a8&t=811s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8awLlK8H0A

Not having to tab target is what makes ESO better than the games that still use the now well outdated system of tab targeting. And if tab targeting is your thing, you can still do that in ESO too.