El_Borracho wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

The team that stays together slays together. Stop running around like a chicken with its head cut off. This is group pvp in a nutshell, especially as your MMR increases.

This is the one thing players who lose consistently in BGs ignore. "Oh, I'm just going to capture this relic by myself." Or, "It will be better if all 4 of us try to capture flags in Domination or Crazy King by ourselves." Nope. While you can split up into teams of 2 and have success, if you know what you are doing, more times than not the team of 4 that runs together will win.

In my experience it's kinda half and half. Highly dependent on what the other teams are doing, and of course whether or not your team is the best at killing. It's best to stay fluid, I think, and you may have to operate one way for half the match and another for the other half.

If you're trying the spread-out strategy and the other team competing for the win is balling up then honestly balling up yourself is only the right answer if you can win that fight. If you can't, then ideally your best/trolliest/tankiest player should take it upon themselves to try and stall the ball-team. A big sacrifice because you'll earn some deaths this way-- but the ball-teams ARE normally hungry for kills, so the strategy is sound, because you CAN distract them at least a little. The other 3 can ball up themselves and hopefully be faster than the other team, or you can stay spread out.

What you don't want is to lock in an endless 4v4 and 3 minutes later realize the 3rd place team is now winning.

If the 3rd team is kinda poopy then having 2 groups of 2 is probably best. One group should probably be following the path of the ball-team so they never have more than 1 flag at a time

@El_Borracho I agree with you too actually, I was just taking the chance to delve into details. I solo que-- so my team (or the others for that matter,) aren't guaranteed to stay together or have any strategy at all for that matter. So I often take it upon myself to be the guy that does what needs to be done, for better or worse.

But that doesn't mean I have a proven Xing build, lol, or that kind of talent. I'm generally placed in high mmr matches and, in that context, I'm scarcely better than average. I normally have a good K:D... Like 4-0 or 9-4 for random example... But it's more about situational awareness than raw talent or power. I've just been playing a long time.

There are (at least) 5 people I see regularly that are hands down better than me. I was playing a BG recently-- forget the mode-- but I was doing very well. But there was this warden on the other team that was just DEMOLISHING everybody. Like he could come up from behind me but I'd already know who it was just because of how instantly I was on defense. I won't lie. I flat out ran from him at least 3 times. Which is cowardly I suppose. But if I can farm 7 other players, on my own, and capture objectives while doing it... Why would I want to stand around dueling the one guy I know is gonna wreck me?

Returning to topic... There are a lot of strategies you can employ in OBJ BGs... It's why I enjoy them. There isn't much strategy to solo que DM, to me, and I feel like in group que the strategy is largely done beforehand. Group synergy gear and skills... Class composition, that kinda thing. It's a no-brainer that you're gonna all 4 stick together. In OBJ modes you might see nobody else is defending your relic... So you decide to bite the bullet and do it. Sometimes it's boring. Sometimes your hands are VERY full.