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Hey ZOS regarding jabs

Mrtoobyy
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You have ignored every thread on the forums and my feedback ingame about the animation of jabs and the damage.
Can you atleast make it so it's not counted as AOE damage since Major and minor evasion reduces the damage into nothing!

OR you could buff the damage of jabs by 10% cause this is getting totally stupid to be honest. Templar's ONLY source of Major sorcery is gained from a skill that has turned into basically crap!

Why don't you just adjust things that players give feedback for? What are your reasons?
  • styroporiane
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    Oh in that case, please buff the surprise attack or the bow with magnum shot.🤗😏 Thx....
  • GooGa592
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    Yes, PLEASE revert the jabs animation to it's original spear of light. The nighthollow stave in place of templar spear is just bizarre. And whats with the twisty motion that makes no sense? Even if ZOS doesn't fix the damage aspect they should at least revert the animation. Nobody asked for a new animation. It's just a flop that nobody asked for.
  • AcadianPaladin
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    Agree. The damage, heal and animation nerfs really destroyed that skill. Will not slot it now and my magplar has lost much joy. *sad panda*
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • freespirit
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    Ok so do I prefer the old animation? Ofc!

    Have I got used to the new one to the point I no longer notice it? Yes!

    My main is a Templar and has been since late 2014(my first character was a sorc), over the last nine years every class has had buffs and nerfs, Templar is no different but I've always just stuck with her.

    I like solo-ing stuff, if I want a huge pile of bodies(trash mobs) fast then I'm sorry but jabs just has to be on my bar!! Nothing beats running through a four man, aggro-ing all the mobs and then killing them all, it always makes me smile.

    Over the last couple of weeks I, like everyone, else have been experimenting with EA.

    I have a HA Sorc which was my first choice to try due to high damage but to my surprise my Templar is now my character of choice and I think that jabs is high on the list as to the reason why, the stages become boring fast, I can clear them faster using jabs. 🙂
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • Mrtoobyy
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    After reading some of your comments I remember that the snare was reduced from 1 sec to 0.5 and the heal nerf.
    Man this skill sure has been wrecked through the years. The effective heal is less aswell since it's only 3 hits instead of four.

    If I had to choose one thing for jab to change it would not be the animation tbh, it would be to increase the damage or make it not count as AOE so Evasion doesn't reduce the damage.
  • katanagirl1
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    Revert both jabs and relentless focus visuals to what they were before.
    Khajiit Stamblade main
    Dark Elf Magsorc
    Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
    Orc Stamplar PVP
    Breton Magsorc PVP
    Dark Elf Necromancer
    Dark Elf Magden
    Khajiit Stamblade
    Khajiit Stamina Arcanist

    PS5 NA
  • AcadianPaladin
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    At this point, my templar would happily trade her lousy jabs for NB Sap Essence.
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • KlauthWarthog
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    You mean that skill where the templar pulls out a golden swiffer and dusts off the opponents? Yeah, they should update the model, it kinda looks like a shovel, which is a tool that can actually be used offensively, and this really misrepresents the lack of damage the skill actually inflicts.
  • kargen27
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    Dekrypted wrote: »
    Oh in that case, please buff the surprise attack or the bow with magnum shot.🤗😏 Thx....

    Did surprise attack have an animation change resulting in one quarter of the damage being eliminated on top of another flat damage reduction while still being effected by Major and Minor Evasion? Can't forget the new class that was released making minor evasion everywhere due to what the class provides as a buff.

    Magnum shot isn't even a spammable and surprise attack can guarantee a crit while being single target.

    Sarcasm or not, get real.

    The animation change is not what caused a drop in damage. The animation is simply that, just animation.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • RaikaNA
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    Mrtoobyy wrote: »
    You have ignored every thread on the forums and my feedback ingame about the animation of jabs and the damage.
    Can you atleast make it so it's not counted as AOE damage since Major and minor evasion reduces the damage into nothing!

    OR you could buff the damage of jabs by 10% cause this is getting totally stupid to be honest. Templar's ONLY source of Major sorcery is gained from a skill that has turned into basically crap!

    Why don't you just adjust things that players give feedback for? What are your reasons?

    I actually like the AOE effect that my jabs have. I don't want ZOS taking it away.
  • Dr_Con
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    I do think templars can use a break and have this skill not be counted as AOE
    RaikaNA wrote: »
    Mrtoobyy wrote: »
    You have ignored every thread on the forums and my feedback ingame about the animation of jabs and the damage.
    Can you atleast make it so it's not counted as AOE damage since Major and minor evasion reduces the damage into nothing!

    OR you could buff the damage of jabs by 10% cause this is getting totally stupid to be honest. Templar's ONLY source of Major sorcery is gained from a skill that has turned into basically crap!

    Why don't you just adjust things that players give feedback for? What are your reasons?

    I actually like the AOE effect that my jabs have. I don't want ZOS taking it away.

    i think he wants the jabs to no longer be affected by both forms of evasion
  • YetAnotherLinuxUser
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    Grants you Major Brutality and Sorcery after casting. Ok and so you have another source for this to whoever aid they won't use it? between this and reflective light which gives major prophecy and major savagery. I mean thats bread and butter... Even if you dont like what they did to it, theres no good reason not to use them.
  • UsualSurrender
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    RaikaNA wrote: »
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    I actually like the AOE effect that my jabs have. I don't want ZOS taking it away.

    The point is not to remove the AoE bit, it's to treat the single target damage portion as such. Because that's what Jabs is, a single target skill with splash damage, not an AoE skill.
    The ST damage bit should not be affected by minor/major evasion
  • YetAnotherLinuxUser
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    RaikaNA wrote: »
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    I actually like the AOE effect that my jabs have. I don't want ZOS taking it away.

    The point is not to remove the AoE bit, it's to treat the single target damage portion as such. Because that's what Jabs is, a single target skill with splash damage, not an AoE skill.
    The ST damage bit should not be affected by minor/major evasion

    yeah it would be like preventing lightning staff from doing any of that tristat damage that it clearly says it's supposed to do....
  • KiltMaster
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    yeah templar has been crap ever since u35. People have complained multiple times and nothing. At this point I just stopped playing my templar cuz he's just worse than my other toons now.
    PC/NA
    GM of "Kilts for Sale"
    twitch.tv/thekiltmaster
    He/Him
  • Wildberryjack
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    I hate the new animation with a passion. It looks plain stupid. And the jabs are so weak now.
    The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso
  • merevie
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    Animation lol? Half the time my templar holds her weapon up in the air in a freeze position and nothing happens.
    Then I have to use roll dodge or bash or something else to get it out of the statue moment.
  • Brakkish
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    Mrtoobyy wrote: »
    You have ignored every thread on the forums and my feedback ingame about the animation of jabs and the damage.
    Can you atleast make it so it's not counted as AOE damage since Major and minor evasion reduces the damage into nothing!

    OR you could buff the damage of jabs by 10% cause this is getting totally stupid to be honest. Templar's ONLY source of Major sorcery is gained from a skill that has turned into basically crap!

    Why don't you just adjust things that players give feedback for? What are your reasons?

    Not gonne lie, when a temp is jabbing me 99% of the time I'm able to sheath and walk a circle to troll. Watching someone get sweaty and do zero damage is endgame for me.
    CP3003+ 10,500 hrs spent in BGs. US PS5 - 12 PVP Tanks - toons named variations of "Combat Medic" I like long walks on the beach. What's PVE? https://www.youtube.com/brakkish
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Sweeps is okay as it is.
    It was previously waaaaay overpowered and needed to be nerfed.

    Want an example? There were guys clearing vet Vateshran with only Sweeps slotted. A legit one button build! There are videos on Youtube as proof, if you do not believe me.

    Try doing that with SurpAttack!
    Or Skulls
    Or Birds
    Or Whip
    Even Cephaliarchs Flail, Bloodthirst or Hungry Scythe wont make it ...
    The old Sweeps were overpowered. Full Stop.

    EDIT: I found one link. Cudos to Deltia.
    https://youtu.be/nFiCOq_1DQc?si=cLGV6yBwJD8O1llZ
    Edited by Zodiarkslayer on 22 November 2023 18:07
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    No Reward, No Effort!
  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    My Critical Surge outheals Jabs when running Quick Cloak. Pretty funny actually (and sad).
    PC NA
  • boi_anachronism_
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    freespirit wrote: »
    Ok so do I prefer the old animation? Ofc!

    Have I got used to the new one to the point I no longer notice it? Yes!

    My main is a Templar and has been since late 2014(my first character was a sorc), over the last nine years every class has had buffs and nerfs, Templar is no different but I've always just stuck with her.

    I like solo-ing stuff, if I want a huge pile of bodies(trash mobs) fast then I'm sorry but jabs just has to be on my bar!! Nothing beats running through a four man, aggro-ing all the mobs and then killing them all, it always makes me smile.

    Over the last couple of weeks I, like everyone, else have been experimenting with EA.

    I have a HA Sorc which was my first choice to try due to high damage but to my surprise my Templar is now my character of choice and I think that jabs is high on the list as to the reason why, the stages become boring fast, I can clear them faster using jabs. 🙂

    Truth my plar is awsome in ea
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