Once you are being pulled it’s too late to stop it, but you can and should block the associated damage.

Once you have started being pulled, it is too late to block it, you will get pulled, but it is good to block anyway and be ready to block and roll out since there will always be a big burst on the end of that pull.

If you are already blocking though, you should be immune to the pull.

Some pull abilities I believe can be dodge rolled, but I'm not sure about the sets (Dark Convergence and Rush of Agony), since those are AoE.

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

Since Nibenay Bay Battlereeve set was mentioned, I'll just leave this here...

Well if they surprised you once and weren’t able to kill you because nibenay saved your bacon, it shouldn’t come as a complete surprise what they are going to try to do again 8 seconds later…

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

Since Nibenay Bay Battlereeve set was mentioned, I'll just leave this here...

I used to pair that with Hrothgar on a DK build before the current meta. Chains of Devastation + Fossilize. The "does not apply CC immunity" was the key to that one. Haven't tried it in a while. Don't think the Battlereeve mythic would help against that since Chains of Devastation pulls you to the target, not the target to you. But it would probably help against the Leap.

NOT affected by BS (battlespirit???????)
Wow!

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

xFocused wrote: »

Dark Con is one of the easiest pulls to get out of, you see the big purple circle appear on the ground and it sucks you in? Block while walking out of it.

Not to mention, outside of lag/missing indicators, you really shouldn't be getting pulled by DC more than once. As soon as you're aware an enemy is running it, it's fairly trivial to recognize the startup and block the pull in the first place.

Rush on the other hand is much harder to avoid.

Rush is tricky because you can leap and pull in pretty much any direction, I use it on a NB bomber and it's pretty disgusting, lol. Dark con pulls can be annoying but I don't find myself getting pulled more than once. The only time I really die in a DC pull is if I'm getting procced by VD or PB, other than that, you just walk out while blocking

taugrim wrote: »

huskandhunger wrote: »

Also you can just dodge out of rush of agony I do it all the time

Keep in mind (and I don't mean you @huskandhunger) that the damage from Rush of Agony is centered around the wearer of the set, not where they charged to or pulled to.

So just move away from the wearer after you get pulled and you won't take the 2-sec delayed damage.

The issue with Rush of agony is that it doesn't apply CC immunity. This leads to bad combos which punish players for not pre-emptively blocking twice. 1) The pull is instant so they get pulled into damage and then 2) they can get follow up stunned in that damage (which drops their block so they take more).

This is how 90% of pvp kills in GvG occur.

Converge has counter play because you can both see the circle and block it early, and if you get pulled in you get CC'd so can break free straight away.

Rush of Agony is OP. This has always been abundantly clear.

There is a reason that 99% of Group versus Group fights end with a Rush > Streak > Negate or Rush > Fear > Synergy bomb. Rush has far too low of a cooldown, does similar damage to a Dawnbreaker, and (most importantly) is the only thing in the game that breaks the rules of CC.

That last part is unacceptable. You should not be able to load up a group with 3 Rush players and lock down a group of enemies for 3 entire globals and still be able to follow up with a stun. It boggles my mind that Rush has never been adjusted since its introduction.

For the vast majority of players/groups, there is 0 counterplay to being gap closed by a nightblade with Rush into fear. If the nightblade gap closes you, you're dead. You can't block the fear, you'll eat the Rush + whatever other damage their group has, and if anyone got pulled into you, you'll likely eat a Plague/VD/Azureblight on top of it all. The only way you'll live is a pre-emptive Barrier, and guess what? That nightblade is ready to go again in only 8 seconds. Good luck getting another Barrier up that quickly.

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

The only time I really die in a DC pull is if I'm getting procced by VD or PB, other than that, you just walk out while blocking

Damn you! I read that as "procced by Venereal Disease or Peanut Butter" and nearly asphyxiated after spraying coffee out my nose.

😂

definitely make a habit of holding block when you can - hold block on ram, etc.