there are three sets that give major vulnerability.
turning tide, arch druid, and kynmarcher's cruelty with the latter not even having guaranteed major vulnerability as it can give other effects too.

the colossus isn't useless because of this.

arcanist companion happened because it's the new class.
next year will likely have a necromancer companion.

For everyone talking about what Necro can do in PvE, go back and look at where this thread was posted.

Now to address OP’s point. As mentioned, it lacks intrinsic access to Major Brutality/Sorcery, which literally every other class has. Spirit Guardian is great for healing and protection, but you have to constantly recast it.

Resistant Flesh is a decent burst heal…that inflicts you with Minor Defile (8% reduction in healing received). So, the one class burst heal makes you worse at being healed with every cast.

And the lack of any real damage on Necro abilities is appalling. Across the board, every person I’ve seen who could successfully score multiple kills on a Necro were using maybe three Necro skills. Everything else was a Weapon or Guild skill. That’s the true sin. You have to sacrifice your class identity just to be effective.

The next update will be released on the PTS on Monday, I think Necro will receive some buff...



...but this may not be true.

Its the life cycle of ESO. It was just the necro's turn. One day that unbeatable DK will go back to the depths of obscurity and tanking where it spent years before rising to its current glory.

Necromancer could receive every buff under the sun, but this still would not fix the core issue; the class feels awful and buggy to play.
It DEFINITELY needs buffs (sorcery/brutality lmao) but I feel that the class needs a rework. A PROPER rework. Making some numbers bigger won't work because, at the end of the day, the class feels bad to play so barely anyone actually wants to play it. Only crazy people like myself, who enjoy the theme and aesthetic of the class.

It doesn't matter. Unless the class gets and overhaul in 2024, I am abandoning it as a dead class.

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

LukosCreyden wrote: »

It doesn't matter. Unless the class gets and overhaul in 2024, I am abandoning it as a dead class.

Making a big assumption there.

I am all but certain ZOS will never rework the class. What we have is what we're stuck with. They've had countless patches where they tried to fix certain things about the class (unsuccessfully) and at no point did they ever just completely redesign an ability like they should have.

I mean jeez just look at all the tweaks they made to the tethers, just to slap on a "fix" that didn't really fix anything - the abilities still have major issues.

Or look at all the work they put into Blastbones just to never actually fix the core issue - the targeting.

ZOS doesn't have the manpower to fix necro. It's a pipe dream to think they will.

I assume ESO is in maintenance mode now, minimal development work, minimal resources, and maximum extraction of cash from players. That seems to be the cycle for MMO's when then get close to the 10 year mark. It is what it is.

I've dumped my Necro, which is hard, because Necro is my preferred class in any MMO that had one, going back to Everquest days. The mechanics of the class never really worked well, and did not fit in with the way the game plays and the class was always 1-2 nerfs away from being ruined. Too many class mechanics just did not function in pvp.

What has gone on with Necro since it launched in 2019 is nothing short of head scratching. It wasn’t a class that was OP, major vulnerability was, harmony trait was, Bashcro was really an unintended bug.

Things have always been the same for Necro… clunky slow spammable, targeting and consistency issues with pets, tethers and corpse system is weird. I made the mistake of thinking that Necro would be worked on, I loved the Necro style… usually do. That and Ice Mages are kind of my go to in games like these. Say what we want about devs and classes… they’ve worked on all of them… buffing, nerfing, changing… whatever they needed. Even Warden got some very needed changes around 2020 or so like off balance on birds, birds were sped up a bit, flies got that debuff etc.

Necros just been nerfed really without adjusting its giant issues which is just so off brand for ZOS. I don’t think the class will ever be changed… I’ve lost hope for it. I’m enjoying my Sorc and my Arcanist but truthfully I’d play this game more if necro was more fun.

the most significant nerf i would say was the reduction in dmg from the skeletal archer/mage, their dmg was already bad and they got gutted with all the other dots in u35

necromancer on the other hand i would say a more lacking stuff to keep up, or have clunky skills

• no class source of major sorcery/brutality for dmg buff
• passives tend to focus on dots, and the class only has 2 real dots (graveyard and tether)
• skull spammable is slow and clunky
• tethers are clunky and dont provide any value without a corpse, and when you do have a corpse the area they affect is very small, not to mention you can only have 1 of each active at a time
• blastbones is strong, but itself also buggy at times and can be unreliable unless standing on top of the target
• lots of necromancer dmg comes from pets, which cannot trigger procs (blastbones, and to lesser extent skeletal archer/mage)
• no way to choose targets for skeletal archer/mage

not to mention for like me, they are just not at all what i expected a necromancer to be

the group boss in the labyrinthian is closer to what i would expect a necromancer to be, it even has the bone dragon frost breath attack that ive seen some threads show was prototyped for the class but never actually utilized

It doesn't make sense to me honestly. They nerfed harmony because it was OP but haven't even bothered to look at the meta sets currently steamrolling Cyro, lol. Tether bombs on NB's are still godly OP but no change to that either? Necro was a good class but now it just hits like a wet noodle...sucks honestly