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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

The Lagfest Is Killing PvP

Grim13
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Seriously!? There's nothing more frustrating then having 15-20 plus key presses not register because who the @#$% knows!

Tonight, I stood behind someone and beat the living bejesus out of them, had them down to a sliver, and then their health stopped going down... I stood there hitting them... and nothing!!! I got killed by several enemy after 5+ seconds of hitting him only not to kill him. BS, I say!

Fix the lag or lose a customer.




Oh, and one more thing: fix the ************* compass so that it doesn't get stuck in Cyrodiil.

Plus, lol, the Postern Door House at Fort Warden bugged out and wouldn't fall after being reduced to zero... then my soul gems bugged out and refused to work. Kept saying I couldn't use them because I was still attempting to resurrect someone else.



I quite enjoy PvP when it works, Zenimax, don't get me wrong... but, for the love of god, FIX IT!
Edited by Grim13 on 23 April 2014 06:09
  • Cydone
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    The lag is most likely from the Megaserver. I REALLY think they need to at least split up the servers into 2 areas, at least in the US cause it's an easier prospect to do than compared with the EU. Just have an East Coast and West Coast server. Bet that would bring down the lag by a LOT!
  • Ghenra
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    Lag, op skills, bugs, no rewards in pvp, boring and repetitive cirodiil, zerg vs zerg, etc.

    They have a large list of actions to do.
  • babanovac
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    Lag, op skills, bugs, no rewards in pvp, boring and repetitive cirodiil, zerg vs zerg, etc.

    They have a large list of actions to do.

    And yet they chose to do nothing.
  • Cydone
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    babanovac wrote: »
    Lag, op skills, bugs, no rewards in pvp, boring and repetitive cirodiil, zerg vs zerg, etc.

    They have a large list of actions to do.

    And yet they chose to do nothing.

    How do you know that?? Do you have some inside information that we don't?? Perhaps trying to balance all these classes/weapon lines/vamp/ww is far more complex than just saying,"DK/Sorc+Vamp = OP, so lets just -1 to mist form." Although I would say that it would go a LONG way for them to communicate with us a LOT more than they have(which is no communication), you can't say that they aren't working on it....or at the very least looking into it.
  • babanovac
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    Cydone wrote: »
    babanovac wrote: »
    Lag, op skills, bugs, no rewards in pvp, boring and repetitive cirodiil, zerg vs zerg, etc.

    They have a large list of actions to do.

    And yet they chose to do nothing.

    How do you know that?? Do you have some inside information that we don't?? Perhaps trying to balance all these classes/weapon lines/vamp/ww is far more complex than just saying,"DK/Sorc+Vamp = OP, so lets just -1 to mist form." Although I would say that it would go a LONG way for them to communicate with us a LOT more than they have(which is no communication), you can't say that they aren't working on it....or at the very least looking into it.

    Neah, i'm just looking at what they did so far - nothing. Most of the PvP bugs or balance issues have been reported months ago in beta.

    Whatever. Maybe they are working on PvP fixes. I hope they are. Let's just hope there will be a player base left to enjoy those fixes when/if they come out.
  • greylox
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    You can get the compass to move again by opening the map and putting a custom destination down. The lag is getting worse every day and since the patch yesterday now everyone stands still for five minutes before I'm chucked. Lag ain't the word.
    PC EU

    House of the Black Lotus
    *{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
    {Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
    {Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
    {Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
    {Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
    *{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
    {Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
    {Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
    {Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
    *{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)

    {*}Mains
    { CP 900+ }

    Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
    Residing in Stay-Moist Mansion-Shadowfen - The Smoking Den (as of 6th feb 2017)

  • Grim13
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    greylox wrote: »
    You can get the compass to move again by opening the map and putting a custom destination down. The lag is getting worse every day and since the patch yesterday now everyone stands still for five minutes before I'm chucked. Lag ain't the word.

    Trust me, I've tried that. Doesn't work for me.
  • Ventroff
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    Cydone wrote: »
    babanovac wrote: »
    Lag, op skills, bugs, no rewards in pvp, boring and repetitive cirodiil, zerg vs zerg, etc.

    They have a large list of actions to do.

    And yet they chose to do nothing.

    How do you know that?? Do you have some inside information that we don't?? Perhaps trying to balance all these classes/weapon lines/vamp/ww is far more complex than just saying,"DK/Sorc+Vamp = OP, so lets just -1 to mist form." Although I would say that it would go a LONG way for them to communicate with us a LOT more than they have(which is no communication), you can't say that they aren't working on it....or at the very least looking into it.

    The lag has been around since stress test beta. It was terrible then, borderline playable, and has devolved into a complete mess.

    Honestly I am so pissed off that I wasted my time in beta for nothing. I was happy to play not for me but for helping to make the game better. I put in a lot of hours knowing that everything would be wiped when game went live. It was as if they didn't even really care about all the bug reports put in at that time.

    The survey after each weekend was a joke. 90% of the questions wanted to know how much crafting I did. Crafting? Seriously... your asking me how crafting went on a stress test weekend? Go ask your PTS testers about crafting, you should be asking me how my experience in lag land pvp went and what I thought of all the bugged out quests due to instancing and player stress.
    Edited by Ventroff on 23 April 2014 21:46
  • cisadanepajsuxrwb17_ESO
    I am staying completely out of pvp atm because of this very reason. I realized that unless i am playing in a small groups of 4 or 5 hunting down stray enemies far from any keeps. It is pointless to zerg a keep or even do a full zerg head-on because i would either crash or lagged to oblivion. So essentially what I do in Cyro is 99% running/walking/riding a horse.

    I wish this game runs as well as it was in beta. Beta lag was tolerable-ish, live lag makes the game unplayable
  • Igolbug
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    I like the part where it lags you out and doesn't register anything you are doing.

    Then it kicks you from server because it says you spamming.
    Igolbug
    V10 R20 Nightblade Ebonheart Pact
    WABBAJACK since day1!
  • greylox
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    Even weirder, my desktop runs it worse in sieges than my laptop. Phenom 2 955 be @ 3.6 ghz, 4 gig ram and gtx 560ti. Vs. i7 2637m (1.7ghz turbo 2.8 ghz) 8 gig ram and gt 540m. Everywhere else the desktop smashes the lappy...yet I get into siege warfare and its a mix of stutter, freezing and crash compared to the laptops constant frame rate. (But still crashes eventually) The only difference is the ram. Really annoying cos all other games run fine.

    Switching to the laptop for sieges feels wrong...
    Edited by greylox on 24 April 2014 12:35
    PC EU

    House of the Black Lotus
    *{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
    {Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
    {Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
    {Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
    {Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
    *{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
    {Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
    {Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
    {Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
    *{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)

    {*}Mains
    { CP 900+ }

    Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
    Residing in Stay-Moist Mansion-Shadowfen - The Smoking Den (as of 6th feb 2017)

  • Cydone
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    Ventroff wrote: »
    Cydone wrote: »
    babanovac wrote: »
    Lag, op skills, bugs, no rewards in pvp, boring and repetitive cirodiil, zerg vs zerg, etc.

    They have a large list of actions to do.

    And yet they chose to do nothing.

    How do you know that?? Do you have some inside information that we don't?? Perhaps trying to balance all these classes/weapon lines/vamp/ww is far more complex than just saying,"DK/Sorc+Vamp = OP, so lets just -1 to mist form." Although I would say that it would go a LONG way for them to communicate with us a LOT more than they have(which is no communication), you can't say that they aren't working on it....or at the very least looking into it.

    The lag has been around since stress test beta. It was terrible then, borderline playable, and has devolved into a complete mess.

    Honestly I am so pissed off that I wasted my time in beta for nothing. I was happy to play not for me but for helping to make the game better. I put in a lot of hours knowing that everything would be wiped when game went live. It was as if they didn't even really care about all the bug reports put in at that time.

    The survey after each weekend was a joke. 90% of the questions wanted to know how much crafting I did. Crafting? Seriously... your asking me how crafting went on a stress test weekend? Go ask your PTS testers about crafting, you should be asking me how my experience in lag land pvp went and what I thought of all the bugged out quests due to instancing and player stress.

    While lag will ALWAYS be a component of massive, large scale, pvp....I am not experiencing the same lag you seem to be. Yes, I lag in some spots and yes I crash in some spots. But from a pure latency perspective, the overall lag in large scale battles doesn't seem to be THAT great. Now, this is just from MY perspective. I'm NOT saying that what you are saying isn't true.....but it is subjective to your experience. Something that could be affected by the type/speed of your net. The amount of "hops" your ISP has to make in order to receive/transmit information(which is separate from actual dl/up speed) and the build of your computer.

  • Grim13
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    Let's add more to the laundry list of annoyances:

    -had both my wood and stone repair kits bug out and become unusable tonight.
    -all players and npcs became invisible and I had to quit.
    -couldn't quit because they game refused to let me so I ctrl-alt-dlted
    -20 second long lag "pauses" where the other team's players were clearly still playing and killing my teammates.

    #nuclearfacepalm
  • greylox
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    Last night was better, could mass PvP on my main rig for 3hours before it became a slideshow. Relogging helped then. No crashes. Fingers crossed for tonight.
    PC EU

    House of the Black Lotus
    *{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
    {Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
    {Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
    {Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
    {Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
    *{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
    {Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
    {Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
    {Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
    *{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)

    {*}Mains
    { CP 900+ }

    Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
    Residing in Stay-Moist Mansion-Shadowfen - The Smoking Den (as of 6th feb 2017)

  • Reevster
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    greylox wrote: »
    Last night was better, could mass PvP on my main rig for 3hours before it became a slideshow. Relogging helped then. No crashes.
    Fingers crossed for tonight.

    Getting better because more players are NOT even bothering to try PvP anymore because of the lag problems most likely.

  • Genev
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    While most of the time it seems fine versus zergs, if we're up against other guild groups it's almost unplayable, and if the fight lasts longer than the initial attack it turns into GW2 - where the biggest group wins because nobody can use their skills, only auto-attacks, so there's no possibility for outplaying.
  • Yasha
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    Yeah the lag/ disconnects etc in pvp are my main gripe with the game. It makes it worse because it takes quite some time to get back into the action.

    I hate those times when lag hits just as you finally find a fight then you die without being able to do anything because the lag is so bad and then spend another 5-10 mins running back to find another fight.

    Or when your whole group disconnects and you get stuck in the loading screens...
  • frwinters_ESO
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    PvP is fun!
  • Grim13
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    More:

    -stopped being able to dismount my horse
    -game crashed
    -when I restarted I got a popup telling me my pc wasn't authorised, wait for a code via email
    -when I finally get back on, my character is gone, and my camera will only spin around

    ffs smh
  • BabylonRocker
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    They should move the Eu server to you know... Europe

    Which im pretty sure take away a lot of load, both Megaservers would benefit from this...
  • Grim13
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    One week ago, I was 90% toward maintaining my sub for at least 6 more months... Now, I am 90% sure I am about to cancel my sub.

    PvP is a full on joke, which, like most online multiplayer games, is being destroyed by lag, bugs, and terrible, TERRIBLE, mind-bogglingly poor design!

    Today, I played against invulnerable enemies who's health wouldn't even budge while being beaten by 15+ VRs, was killed by enemies who's team emblems weren't displaying, tried to enter doors that stopped working, and was Dark Talon spammed to death on too many occasions to count!

    Not to mention Night Blade's invisibility skill is broken and clearly does not work, often immediately failing upon attempt.

    There is a lot about this game that I genuinely enjoy... but my patience is not infinite, and Zenimax may not be able to keep up with my dissatisfaction over their incompetently ruining their own game's potential.




    Oh yeah, I almost forgot: was at Glademist while being sieged when an enemy Vampire misted in to attack a lone teammate, while myself, and 2 others, using 2 fire ballisata and a fire treb, hit the vamp simultaneously as he killed our friend... Do you think we did ANY fire damage to the weak to fire Vamp? NO. Didn't lower his bar one iota.

    smfh
    Edited by Grim13 on 28 April 2014 03:30
  • dietlime
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    Cydone wrote: »
    The lag is most likely from the Megaserver. I REALLY think they need to at least split up the servers into 2 areas, at least in the US cause it's an easier prospect to do than compared with the EU. Just have an East Coast and West Coast server. Bet that would bring down the lag by a LOT!

    The servers for PvP are independent, each campaign has it's own servers.

  • Grim13
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    Good god has PvP ever devolved into a total s**tshow!

    Was just defending a Keep under siege... the enemy breaks through the inner walls, BUT there are 3 of us with oil overtop the gap, HOWEVER 11-12 Vampires mistform past the oil splatter, and then race up to where we are to Dark Talon us into submission.

    ROFLMMFAO!

    FIX YOUR GAME ZENIMAX! As I am seriously beginning to doubt your ability to do so...
    Edited by Grim13 on 30 April 2014 03:37
  • Grim13
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    1) NB Shadow Cloak simply does not work properly.
    2) Dodge rolls are 50/50 to execute due to terrible implementation.
    3) DKs and Dark Talons, enough said.
    4) Shield Charge/Bash, enough said.
    5) Vamps... o_0
    6) Repair kits bug out 33% of the time.
    7) Fwd Camps bug out 33% of the time.
    8 ) Crazy lag.
    9) You can tell a shield charge is incoming because you can no longer move while you watch them charge you from 15 -20 feet away.
    10) Sometimes the Tower Mage's AoE spell doesn't show visibly on the ground and you don't notice until half your group is dead.
    11)... and on and on and on...

    Edited by Grim13 on 7 May 2014 05:07
  • Grim13
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    ESO is like a beautiful member of the opposite sex, whom you're really, REALLY, enjoying fooling around with... when, suddenly,... STAB, "ow! what was that for"!?!?! STAB STAB, "jesus would you please stop doing that"!?!?!

    Us, "Holy @#$%!, ESO! Everything was going so damn fine until you stabbed me with that tack! Why'd you do it!?"

    ESO, "Don't worry, Honey. I'll let you have another five get togethers free, before you have to take me out again..."

    You, "I don't know..."

    ESO, "Come on, Sugar! Look at my silky graphics...:

    Us, "Well, your graphics are pretty sexy... and those curvy crafting tables are..."

    ESO, "..C'mon..."

    Us, "..idk... that tack hurt pretty badly..."

    ESO, "c'mon..."

    Us, "..well..."

    ESO, "cuummmmmonnnnnn"

    Us, "o k"

    STAB!
  • Jarnhand
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    Had some really weird issues yesterday night on Dawnbreaker:
    After releasing and exiting the inner keep, suddenly Zone chat did not work (guild did), everyone else where frozen, and could not reenter keep. Had to relog.
  • SourceError
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    I'm not getting any lag. Are you sure your tears aren't distorting your vision?
  • Thechemicals
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    My fps in Cyrodiil is

    Low 8
    high 57

    And this is with a large investment into technology hardware and internet.
    Edited by Thechemicals on 7 May 2014 16:58
    Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
    Vr14 Dk bow/2h

    Brayan Blackthunder
    Goddick
    Daggerfall Covenant

  • Thechemicals
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    ESO is like a beautiful member of the opposite sex, whom you're really, REALLY, enjoying fooling around with... when, suddenly,... STAB, "ow! what was that for"!?!?! STAB STAB, "jesus would you please stop doing that"!?!?!

    Us, "Holy @#$%!, ESO! Everything was going so damn fine until you stabbed me with that tack! Why'd you do it!?"

    ESO, "Don't worry, Honey. I'll let you have another five get togethers free, before you have to take me out again..."

    You, "I don't know..."

    ESO, "Come on, Sugar! Look at my silky graphics...:

    Us, "Well, your graphics are pretty sexy... and those curvy crafting tables are..."

    ESO, "..C'mon..."

    Us, "..idk... that tack hurt pretty badly..."

    ESO, "c'mon..."

    Us, "..well..."

    ESO, "cuummmmmonnnnnn"

    Us, "o k"

    STAB!

    So what your saying is you havent actually been with someone of the opposite sex yet. They drive over you then hit reverse then rinse and repeat till the police arrive.
    Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
    Vr14 Dk bow/2h

    Brayan Blackthunder
    Goddick
    Daggerfall Covenant

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