CGPsaint wrote: »

Not sure of the scores, but any game where the NPC uses Red Eagle and deletes ALL of their cards is a highlight in my book...

this right here would be for me lol

its the closest thing i can think of to the npc conceding lol

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

How can you achieve 276 points? This means about 190 points in one single turn - minimum

More like 200 points, since he'd have had to have less than 80 at the start of his turn. I think he answered your question with the video he just posted, and it was actually a good bit more than 200. o_O

rbfrgsp wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Yes! Now this is what I'm talking about! Great score, but which patrons were in play?

Delmene, Celarus, Hunding, and Druid

rbfrgsp wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Delmene, Celarus, Hunding, and Druid

That's interesting, on first instinct I'd think you could've gone higher if you'd dropped Hunding for Rajhin as Rajhin's late-game tavern cycling and drawing capacities synergise better with Druid and Lexi power gen than Hunding's "refresh to draw" action.

But I'm going to guess that you cashed in a fair amount of those Hundings as raw power? And only used the deck refresh to optimise the Psijic/Almalexia cycling?

This was a game against the NPC who likely picked Hunding and Delmene on their own since I almost never pick either of those patrons. Also, I didn't utilize any Almalexia cycling. It's possible for Almalexia to make big turns bigger, but that will be hard to setup because you'll want to only be discarding cards that you don't intend to player and drawing cards that you do want to play. Also, though Rajhin does have a few attractive draw cards, there is a limit to what can be done because eventually the Tavern will literally run out of cards. When decks are getting close to that limit of capabilities, the most efficient thing for generating power would probably just be to use the Crow patron.

On the game winning turn, I only utilized 1 Hunding card and that was for the purpose of generating 2 gold with my Stonelore Rockseer. Even if someone was somehow able to play ever single Hunding card in the same turn, they aren't going to be generating 200 power.

My turn could have been a bit bigger if I had played more optimally, but that idea also goes to show that there are some limits when playing against the NPC opponents. Against someone doing what you need them to do, it's possible to hypothetically get infinite score. But the NPC cannot be controlled, so sometimes it may buy a card from the tavern that is needed to make a huge turn possible. If I were to try to improve on my score with the same strategy, then maybe it could take another 50 to 100 games to just get the same setup where the NPC doesn't interfere. I'm guessing that the maximum single turn point gain against a NPC player is probably close to 350 to maybe 400 if literally everything goes perfectly in a Psijic/Druid/Alma/Crow game. And keep in mind, Hunding made my score possible because of the Refresh cards setting up my power turn. So you can get a bigger score without Hunding, but it will be much harder to setup all of the game pieces to come into play in the most optimal way.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/639207/npc-smackdown-what-to-do-when-you-cant-play-ranked#latest

@rbfrgsp , thanks for the update.

Technically, the score possible is still infinite, but that requires cooperation of the opponent and alot of time.

This change make such a turn, which I've been theorizing about for a couple of month, much more time costly.

As per usual, designers like to give players things that the players never asked for and don't want.

As per usual, designers leave players waiting around indefinitely for obvious balance changes and basic features.