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PvP I still can't aim!!!!
Zama666
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Power of the Light goes off and I hit every target...BUT THAT DOOD!!!!
I usually have my character scrolled all the way out (looks like I am watch from behind and above, but in mobs, almost impossible to keep my aim on one player.
Using and Xbox controller on a PC. I am not better with mouse n keyboard.
What is the secret. (other than practice and crying?)
Z
I usually have my character scrolled all the way out (looks like I am watch from behind and above, but in mobs, almost impossible to keep my aim on one player.
Using and Xbox controller on a PC. I am not better with mouse n keyboard.
What is the secret. (other than practice and crying?)
Z
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i11ionward✭✭✭✭use tab (default button on PC) for focus targetEdited by i11ionward on 26 July 2023 06:171 -
Zama666✭✭✭✭i11ionward wrote: »use tab (default button on PC) for focus target
Ah, I see, but there is no controller equivalent, right. So back to keyboard and mouse?
Or I guess I could reconfig the controller.0 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭i11ionward wrote: »use tab (default button on PC) for focus target
Ah, I see, but there is no controller equivalent, right. So back to keyboard and mouse?
Or I guess I could reconfig the controller.
I'd be surprised if there was no controller equivalent, it's an important feature. It's not flawless though, I find you still need your crosshair over your target in crowded situations. Maybe increase your sensitivity? Or decrease it, depending on what you think the problem is. Like, are you over aiming, under aiming? Taking your thumb off the stick to push a button, when you should be keeping your thumb on the stick to aim?PC | EU0 -
Zama666✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »i11ionward wrote: »use tab (default button on PC) for focus target
Ah, I see, but there is no controller equivalent, right. So back to keyboard and mouse?
Or I guess I could reconfig the controller.
I'd be surprised if there was no controller equivalent, it's an important feature. It's not flawless though, I find you still need your crosshair over your target in crowded situations. Maybe increase your sensitivity? Or decrease it, depending on what you think the problem is. Like, are you over aiming, under aiming? Taking your thumb off the stick to push a button, when you should be keeping your thumb on the stick to aim?
Hey @FriedEggSandwich ...and gastronomic name!
It is definitely a bit of moving my thumb and mis aiming, but also a bit of panick.
I guess that is why ball groups survive....they are in a school of nerds.0 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »i11ionward wrote: »use tab (default button on PC) for focus target
Ah, I see, but there is no controller equivalent, right. So back to keyboard and mouse?
Or I guess I could reconfig the controller.
I'd be surprised if there was no controller equivalent, it's an important feature. It's not flawless though, I find you still need your crosshair over your target in crowded situations. Maybe increase your sensitivity? Or decrease it, depending on what you think the problem is. Like, are you over aiming, under aiming? Taking your thumb off the stick to push a button, when you should be keeping your thumb on the stick to aim?
Hey @FriedEggSandwich ...and gastronomic name!
It is definitely a bit of moving my thumb and mis aiming, but also a bit of panick.
I guess that is why ball groups survive....they are in a school of nerds.
What is it about mouse & keyboard that you don't like? Just out of interest. I'm an advocate for mmo mice, such as the razer naga.
All the buttons you need are under your thumb. I have bar swap set to 5, and then all the skills around it. With the naga in particular, as well as mouse wheel click, it also has mouse wheel nudge, left or right. So I have break free/bash set to mouse wheel nudge left, and dodge roll set to mouse wheel scroll up. It's kind of like having a controller just in one hand, leaving your keyboard hand free for just movement and jump. Takes a bit of getting used to, but the grid layout of the buttons is intuitive for me. This wouldn't necessarily help your aiming, but it might simplify your input. I occasionally use my steam deck to play eso, and I don't find the default inputs to be that intuitive.
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blktauna✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've noticed a recent shift in targeting accuracy. After the last one its been a bit squiffy. I'm using the same setup I have for years and sitting in my same space in Arena there are times with the croshairs settled on a xivkin and the shot will not hit it. There's no movement, no pressure, it just hits whatever is behind or next to it, or indeed misses entirely. Their location calcs are awful. Some times more than others but its a constant crapshool.PCNA
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Zama666✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »FriedEggSandwich wrote: »i11ionward wrote: »use tab (default button on PC) for focus target
Ah, I see, but there is no controller equivalent, right. So back to keyboard and mouse?
Or I guess I could reconfig the controller.
I'd be surprised if there was no controller equivalent, it's an important feature. It's not flawless though, I find you still need your crosshair over your target in crowded situations. Maybe increase your sensitivity? Or decrease it, depending on what you think the problem is. Like, are you over aiming, under aiming? Taking your thumb off the stick to push a button, when you should be keeping your thumb on the stick to aim?
Hey @FriedEggSandwich ...and gastronomic name!
It is definitely a bit of moving my thumb and mis aiming, but also a bit of panick.
I guess that is why ball groups survive....they are in a school of nerds.
What is it about mouse & keyboard that you don't like? Just out of interest. I'm an advocate for mmo mice, such as the razer naga.
All the buttons you need are under your thumb. I have bar swap set to 5, and then all the skills around it. With the naga in particular, as well as mouse wheel click, it also has mouse wheel nudge, left or right. So I have break free/bash set to mouse wheel nudge left, and dodge roll set to mouse wheel scroll up. It's kind of like having a controller just in one hand, leaving your keyboard hand free for just movement and jump. Takes a bit of getting used to, but the grid layout of the buttons is intuitive for me. This wouldn't necessarily help your aiming, but it might simplify your input. I occasionally use my steam deck to play eso, and I don't find the default inputs to be that intuitive.
Holy Crap! Sweet! Thanks for the idea!!!!!1 -
Zama666✭✭✭✭@FriedEggSandwich I was actually getting elbow injuries, weird, eh? Like pounding the keys to hard and leaning on the arm rests.
So I use the Xbox controller for combat, and keyboard for riding or less time sensitive tasks.
I do notice bluetooth controller sometimes just don't fire, (like ultimates) whereas keyboard always works. So that is a drawback.
But I am faster now with a controller.
That mouse might be a good mix....
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FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭@FriedEggSandwich I was actually getting elbow injuries, weird, eh? Like pounding the keys to hard and leaning on the arm rests.
So I use the Xbox controller for combat, and keyboard for riding or less time sensitive tasks.
I do notice bluetooth controller sometimes just don't fire, (like ultimates) whereas keyboard always works. So that is a drawback.
But I am faster now with a controller.
That mouse might be a good mix....
any thumb issues?
No thumb issues, but you might have to adjust how you hold the mouse if you're normally a tight gripper. I have the wireless naga, but I'd go back to wired if I had the choice again. The wireless mouse is just too heavy with a battery in it. If you're having posture issues with M&K, you could also try having the keyboard on your lap, and the mouse on a separate table next to you. That way you don't have to constantly lean into your desk. The photo below is my setup. In the photo the keyboard is on the desk, but when I sit on the chair I have it on my lap.
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭on the Playstation tab target is R3...
I feel you though on just how difficult it can be to hit folks with skills...
to be fair though - I don't spend too much time myself standing still to let folks hit me a second time...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭Power of the Light goes off and I hit every target...BUT THAT DOOD!!!!
I usually have my character scrolled all the way out (looks like I am watch from behind and above, but in mobs, almost impossible to keep my aim on one player.
Using and Xbox controller on a PC. I am not better with mouse n keyboard.
What is the secret. (other than practice and crying?)
Z
Use a gap closer
You should be moving all the time anyway. Don't stand there and get hit in the face.
I'm on PS5 and I don't do "tab targeting." I don't see how it's R3 like that other guy said...R3 is the sneak button.
But I remapped a few of my buttons.
R3 is now the jump button which used to be the X button. The X button is now bar swap which used to be the left D-pad button. But now that left D-pad button is sneak.
I didn't like how that left D pad button is supposed to be bar swap. It means you have to take your thumb off the stick you use to move your character....so every time you bar swap you stop for a split second. So I had to change that ****.Edited by LittlePinkDot on 29 July 2023 05:200 -
OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm not smart enough to remap my controller.
My basic strategy has always been to make my main spammable one bumper and my execute the other, that way my thumbs don't leave the joysticks for those at least.
And for barswapping or selecting a new potion during combat I normally jump before doing it so I don't lose momentum.0 -
LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭I'm not smart enough to remap my controller.
My basic strategy has always been to make my main spammable one bumper and my execute the other, that way my thumbs don't leave the joysticks for those at least.
And for barswapping or selecting a new potion during combat I normally jump before doing it so I don't lose momentum.
If you're on PS5, it's not within the game where you re map the buttons.
It's on the console itself. PlayStation allows you to save 1 alternate button configuration that you can switch to at anytime. I only turn on the other button setting when I'm playing ESO because it changes the button setting for everything you play/do on the console.
But it's very easy to switch once you get it set up.
You play differently than me. I'm not a fan of those bumpers, especially the left one. I don't want to take my finger off the trigger for block.
The left one I use for more passive things like camo hunter or buffs. The right one I usually use for buffs or skills you can't spam like grim focus.
My spammable is always on square.
The right stick is for camera. If I'm about the attack somebody, my camera is already where I want it to be, so I don't mind pushing the square, X, triangle, circle buttons.
I don't know why they made the most important thing, bar swap some far away button on the left that forces you to stop in one place. That alone is reason why there shouldn't be crossplay between console and PC. It's too unfair. Not to mention the add ons.0 -
OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah I agree there shouldn't be cross play. Maybe between PS and Xbox but not with PC. I don't think playing on PC offers any real advantages-- I can aim okay on Xbox-- but the add-on thing is big.
That's good information about possibly remapping the controller through the console settings. I might look into it, not sure if Xbox has something similar but won't take long to find out.
Block and barswap don't bother me, same as buffs, cuz you don't have to aim. But I can see why you'd feel differently. A spammable and an execute isn't enough anyway most of the time so I normally end up having damage abilities on other buttons too. I try to either make it a DoT or, better yet, something that doesn't need aiming. Spin to win or Shalks come to mind. If I'm using spin to win I'm probably breaking my own rule, putting that for X, with rending slashes on one bumper and a spammable on the other.
I like B to be my strongest heal on the bar and normally make Y some kinda mobility tool. No real reason why. Been doing it for years though and it makes it easy to hop onto toons you haven't played in a while.0 -
LittlePinkDot✭✭✭✭✭Yeah I agree there shouldn't be cross play. Maybe between PS and Xbox but not with PC. I don't think playing on PC offers any real advantages-- I can aim okay on Xbox-- but the add-on thing is big.
That's good information about possibly remapping the controller through the console settings. I might look into it, not sure if Xbox has something similar but won't take long to find out.
Block and barswap don't bother me, same as buffs, cuz you don't have to aim. But I can see why you'd feel differently. A spammable and an execute isn't enough anyway most of the time so I normally end up having damage abilities on other buttons too. I try to either make it a DoT or, better yet, something that doesn't need aiming. Spin to win or Shalks come to mind. If I'm using spin to win I'm probably breaking my own rule, putting that for X, with rending slashes on one bumper and a spammable on the other.
I like B to be my strongest heal on the bar and normally make Y some kinda mobility tool. No real reason why. Been doing it for years though and it makes it easy to hop onto toons you haven't played in a while.
I had to google it. The X box controller is definitely different than the PS controller. Your X is my square. Your A button is X to me.
But what's the most different is your left thumb stick is up to the left and your D pad is down below.
If you look at the PS controller you can see how far left the D-pad is. No way I wanted to bar swap with that. I don't even change potions during battle.
Switching barswap to X (your A) changed the game for me.
I wonder how many console players end up using Oakensoul because of bar swap being on the D-pad.
I noticed that the Xbox D-pad is round...like you have more than 4 directions. You have the inbetween positions too.
In order to switch potions I have to hold the top button of the D-pad and select which potion on the wheel I want with my right thumb stick.
Do you have to do that too?
Or can you you just push the D pad in any direction, even those diagonal positions?Edited by LittlePinkDot on 30 July 2023 00:480 -
Zama666✭✭✭✭Tank U
My right bumper is spam, my left is my execute
@LittlePinkDot yeah, pretty much the same
weapon swap is left d-pad. But maybe switching to a button is better. but I am so trained.
switching potions in a fight is tuff..
but PvP in general is hard for me!
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OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes on Xbox you have to hold the D-pad and then use the analog stick to rotate around the wheel for selecting potions.
Again though, with my toons, I pretty much have everything set up the same way. Ballistas, keep recall stones, and door repairs over here... Two types of potions and a food over there... Point being I've just gotten fast at selecting because it's always the same. I can get it done in one jump. I also sometimes jump on my mount for a chance to sneak a peak at the map without stopping.
It used to irritate me back in the day when people would accuse "jumpers" of exploiting. Claiming we were dodging AoEs or something. I never knew that to be true personally, and that's not why I did it at all. I did it because of what I just explained. And, back in the day when I played a little more hardcore and was a little better, I just did it because I like having buttons to push and 1 LA + 1 skill every second just wasn't enough LOL. It was part of my rotation. If you don't like it, get closer, I'll bash weave instead LOL1 -
SandandStars✭✭✭✭✭1. Run dragon star arena until you get masters maces.
2. Slot twin slashes and Whirling Blades on your front bar.
3. You no longer have to aim at anything.3 -
SandandStars✭✭✭✭✭😁 It’s not the maces, it’s the skill, Whirling Blades.
Probably easiest skill in the game for hitting targets without aiming (besides leap, which nukes an entire trailer park radius)
I suggested Masters Maces bc DW Masters wep is the current OP meta build you’ll see 50-60% of sweaty PvPrs using. Most overpowered offensive set in the game.0