Stun skill for nb

birdik · July 2023

everybody crying about nerfing nb ( lel ) but In contrast other classes it doesnt even have normal stun

arcanist:unblockable stun with 2 good debuffs and i cant breakfree immediatly from it for some reason?
dk: aoe leap, unblocable stone
sorc: streak
plar: quick animated charge or spear
warden: aoe stun ( was nerfed but anyway )

nb: solo target blockable dodgeble ULTIMATE with animation and warning sound)) everybody who use fear knows how it awful + it bad option for stam nb and no slot for it

assassin class without good stun bravo god damn it

P.S. i want even know why arcanist have spammable with roots, heal,aoe, finisher effect and nb should use 2 skills for 2 of these... nvrmnd

AndreNoir · July 2023

Well, technically nb has an unblockable stun (aspect of terror), however it is placed as bad as major breach - on a skill that does nothing except debuff

Syiccal · July 2023

birdik wrote: »

everybody crying about nerfing nb ( lel ) but In contrast other classes it doesnt even have normal stun

arcanist:unblockable stun with 2 good debuffs and i cant breakfree immediatly from it for some reason?
dk: aoe leap, unblocable stone
sorc: streak
plar: quick animated charge or spear
warden: aoe stun ( was nerfed but anyway )

nb: solo target blockable dodgeble ULTIMATE with animation and warning sound)) everybody who use fear knows how it awful + it bad option for stam nb and no slot for it

assassin class without good stun bravo god damn it

P.S. i want even know why arcanist have spammable with roots, heal,aoe, finisher effect and nb should use 2 skills for 2 of these... nvrmnd

Nb has an aoe fear that's unblockable and has great passivs attached to it, it's not widely used as most nbs prefer to slot another skill and rely on incap/dawnbreaker/ soul tether

birdik · July 2023

Syiccal wrote: »

birdik wrote: »

everybody crying about nerfing nb ( lel ) but In contrast other classes it doesnt even have normal stun

arcanist:unblockable stun with 2 good debuffs and i cant breakfree immediatly from it for some reason?
dk: aoe leap, unblocable stone
sorc: streak
plar: quick animated charge or spear
warden: aoe stun ( was nerfed but anyway )

nb: solo target blockable dodgeble ULTIMATE with animation and warning sound)) everybody who use fear knows how it awful + it bad option for stam nb and no slot for it

assassin class without good stun bravo god damn it

P.S. i want even know why arcanist have spammable with roots, heal,aoe, finisher effect and nb should use 2 skills for 2 of these... nvrmnd

Nb has an aoe fear that's unblockable and has great passivs attached to it, it's not widely used as most nbs prefer to slot another skill and rely on incap/dawnbreaker/ soul tether

god i know and i wrote about it, did you see anybody use it, maybe there is a reason?!

NyassaV · July 2023

Fear is nice, decent skill. But it has a radius of 6 meters when all Melee attacks have a range of 7, not to mention players move fast so you will frequently miss when using fear. Not worth it unless you're dueling a Blockplar or a DK that loves blocking.

Turtle_Bot · July 2023

take off camo hunter (cloak now gives you major prophecy/savagery on both bars anyway) and slot FG fear or mass hysteria for a strong stun with multiple secondary benefits.

birdik · July 2023

this strong very clunky to use and pretty expensive.. and i prefer stun on main panel.. teleport strike mb.. good old times when veiled strike stun from side..

CameraBeardThePirate · July 2023

Fear is a great stun with fantastic debuffs attached to it. As a ganker, you generally don't need it because of the stuns from stealth and incap, but it is there and it is strong.

Meanwhile necro actually lacks a usable stun.

birdik · July 2023

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Fear is a great stun with fantastic debuffs attached to it. As a ganker, you generally don't need it because of the stuns from stealth and incap, but it is there and it is strong.

Meanwhile necro actually lacks a usable stun.

ye ye nobody dodge/block infinity time incap animation with loudest warning sound ever, and i dont need stun in the beggining

btw with recent cloak changes i actually have a slot for fear, ye its debuff is good, need practice to use that

Udrath · July 2023

The fear trap will actually allow you to land ultimates and assassins will cause of the delay, just have to practice baiting people into it when your combo is ready. The fear shout feels more like a defensive ability cause most players roll Dodge or block after the break free, I don’t know if NOT light attacking & animation cancelling helps land attacks - seems 50/50 with the fear shout

StaticWave · July 2023

Cloak still too weak. It should stun everyone within 15m when used.

Tyrant_Tim · July 2023

Mass Hysteria applies Major Cowardice reducing the weapon and spell damage of enemies by 430 (four-hundred-thirty) for 10 seconds.

4 3 0

That’s literally an entire 5th piece of New Moon Acolyte stripped from your build for 10 seconds on an uncapped AoE unblockable undodgeable stun.

NordSwordnBoard · July 2023

StaticWave wrote: »

Cloak still too weak. It should stun everyone within 15m when used.

Indubitably, can anyone else think of any other things that Nightblade needs?

Maybe Assasin's will grants resistance equal to the amount of damage done and immovability for 6 seconds just in case the player you killed friends come after you with hard counters to cloak.

xWALK1NGxTNT420 · July 2023

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

Cloak still too weak. It should stun everyone within 15m when used.

Indubitably, can anyone else think of any other things that Nightblade needs?

Maybe Assasin's will grants resistance equal to the amount of damage done and immovability for 6 seconds just in case the player you killed friends come after you with hard counters to cloak.

How about a Nerf? then turn it into a stealth brawler like it was intended..

katorga · July 2023

NyassaV wrote: »

Fear is nice, decent skill. But it has a radius of 6 meters when all Melee attacks have a range of 7, not to mention players move fast so you will frequently miss when using fear. Not worth it unless you're dueling a Blockplar or a DK that loves blocking.

it is odd that zos did not normalize all skills less than 7m to 7m when they made the change.

KingLewie_III · July 2023

Nightblade has been loaded for years. You have a fear, which is an unblockable stun, must most blades don’t even bother running it because who needs a stun when you can spec bow someone for 20k.

If you want to play a class that truly needs help, go play Necro in PVP. Then come back and tell us about how Nightblade needs something more on top of the random buffs they get every patch. Hell, now you don’t even have to have merciless resolve active to proc the bow lol.

Dojohoda · July 2023

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Mass Hysteria applies Major Cowardice reducing the weapon and spell damage of enemies by 430 (four-hundred-thirty) for 10 seconds.

4 3 0

That’s literally an entire 5th piece of New Moon Acolyte stripped from your build for 10 seconds on an uncapped AoE unblockable undodgeable stun.

Fear doesn't work on players with immunity to cc. I wonder if the debuff works even if the enemy is immune? I should test that someday soon.

BetterAtChess · July 2023

Dojohoda wrote: »

Fear doesn't work on players with immunity to cc. I wonder if the debuff works even if the enemy is immune? I should test that someday soon.

The debuff lasts for 10 seconds so should have 100% uptime assuming you fear on cooldown. In addition, nbs have access to minor maim through shade so that's another 5% damage reduction.

Isn't it nice that a class with extremely potent burst damage can also take away your damage with its array of overloaded skills?

ShadowProc · July 2023

KingLewie_III wrote: »

Nightblade has been loaded for years. You have a fear, which is an unblockable stun, must most blades don’t even bother running it because who needs a stun when you can spec bow someone for 20k.

If you want to play a class that truly needs help, go play Necro in PVP. Then come back and tell us about how Nightblade needs something more on top of the random buffs they get every patch. Hell, now you don’t even have to have merciless resolve active to proc the bow lol.

Or play sorc. By far the hardest class in the game. Every spec in the game except for sorc is loaded. Trust me I know. I play so many battlegrounds and it takes me like 10 seconds longer to find the nb and kill him when I could be doing other things. Oh and I have to use a counter to find them.

But again trust me, I know. I am a top player. Many people know that.

Syrusthevirus187 · July 2023

StaticWave wrote: »

Cloak still too weak. It should stun everyone within 15m when used.

And damage them
And give a unique major buff
And ignore detect pots

rolandlu7prb18_ESO · July 2023

Turtle_Bot wrote: »

take off camo hunter (cloak now gives you major prophecy/savagery on both bars anyway) and slot FG fear or mass hysteria for a strong stun with multiple secondary benefits.

Is this on PTS? I didn't see this on live server

PhoenixGrey · July 2023

The main purpose of a stun is for defense and for combining burst damage ?

NB's bow proc hits for 20k + on most players and we have cloak. Not sure what a stun accomplishes on nb

Aces-High-82 · July 2023

rolandlu7prb18_ESO wrote: »

Turtle_Bot wrote: »

take off camo hunter (cloak now gives you major prophecy/savagery on both bars anyway) and slot FG fear or mass hysteria for a strong stun with multiple secondary benefits.

Is this on PTS? I didn't see this on live server

Yes, it's on pts. And additionaly bow doesn't have to be activated anymore. Relentless morph now even stacks up to 400 weap/spell dmg.

mmtaniac · July 2023

Fear is good stun. Ignore block and have massive debuff when person break free.