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Fantastic job with Arcanist class! PLEASE don't nerf!
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mmtaniac✭✭✭✭✭They will nerf it. Templar always needed buffs and ta dah get nerfs to jabs and damage overall. No one asked for nerfs we asked for buffs always.1 -
Ingenon✭✭✭✭✭
✭EramTheLiar wrote: »I'm gonna repost this highly scientific and 100% accurate graph I made on PTS:
Thanks for posting this! I have only been playing an Arcanist for a few days on PS/NA, and I find it fun to play for PvE. I consider myself middle-tier on a good day, so something like Arcanist works for me.0 -
Whatever they don't won't matter, I'll still play it as a one bar build as I adore it.
Thank you for creating such a fun class.
I hope you consider revisiting the other classes to have as great a synergy between their toolkits to not have to rely on generic weapon or guild abilities.
Case in point, Inspired Scholarship crit buff applies even if on unused backbar.
Why can't you do the same with mages guild ability, or just one bar pets?
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YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ShalidorsHeir wrote: »Well i claim: if they dont nerf acarnist players are going to leave ESO (which is bad for business) cuz nobody wants to play a game with only one reasonable class. period
on top of that this class by now is beyond stupidy when it comes to skill rotations. The orb (or whatever you call this) minigame is not very well designed.
Solid B tier for pvp. No where close to being as good as DK.
Indeed.
I believe that MalcolM summarized it best when he said that the class was "exceedingly mediocre."
Arcanist has good survivability but it pays for it with a lack of burst damage. Witness nearly all high-tier Arcanists using the same tired Master's DW x Vate Destro combo. It's the gear not the class.1 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YandereGirlfriend wrote: »ShalidorsHeir wrote: »Well i claim: if they dont nerf acarnist players are going to leave ESO (which is bad for business) cuz nobody wants to play a game with only one reasonable class. period on top of that this class by now is beyond stupidy when it comes to skill rotations. The orb (or whatever you call this) minigame is not very well designed.
Solid B tier for pvp. No where close to being as good as DK.
Indeed.
I believe that MalcolM summarized it best when he said that the class was "exceedingly mediocre."
Arcanist has good survivability but it pays for it with a lack of burst damage. Witness nearly all high-tier Arcanists using the same tired Master's DW x Vate Destro combo. It's the gear not the class.
I have been saying this all along! Every time I see someone say, "Arcanist is going to get nerfed, it's OP" and I'm like, STOP listening to the click-bait Youtubers because if you actually watch most of their build videos, EVERY class to them is "God mode". However, with Arcanist, you have to run very specific gear, and even then, it still does not outperform several other classes. So it really cannot be considered OP in any true sense of the word, even with very specific gear. However, in the hands of an exceptional player who has devoted HOURS to their builds and skill rotation, sure, ANY class could become OP.
However, for the majority of players, Arcanist is not, and never will be, OP.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025~~2 -
boi_anachronism_✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YandereGirlfriend wrote: »ShalidorsHeir wrote: »Well i claim: if they dont nerf acarnist players are going to leave ESO (which is bad for business) cuz nobody wants to play a game with only one reasonable class. period on top of that this class by now is beyond stupidy when it comes to skill rotations. The orb (or whatever you call this) minigame is not very well designed.
Solid B tier for pvp. No where close to being as good as DK.
Indeed.
I believe that MalcolM summarized it best when he said that the class was "exceedingly mediocre."
Arcanist has good survivability but it pays for it with a lack of burst damage. Witness nearly all high-tier Arcanists using the same tired Master's DW x Vate Destro combo. It's the gear not the class.
I have been saying this all along! Every time I see someone say, "Arcanist is going to get nerfed, it's OP" and I'm like, STOP listening to the click-bait Youtubers because if you actually watch most of their build videos, EVERY class to them is "God mode". However, with Arcanist, you have to run very specific gear, and even then, it still does not outperform several other classes. So it really cannot be considered OP in any true sense of the word, even with very specific gear. However, in the hands of an exceptional player who has devoted HOURS to their builds and skill rotation, sure, ANY class could become OP.
However, for the majority of players, Arcanist is not, and never will be, OP.
I think you are missing one key point here. Its gonna be used for support more then anything else and in that category it is absolutely op. The buffs it gives group are insane.0 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭boi_anachronism_ wrote: »YandereGirlfriend wrote: »ShalidorsHeir wrote: »Well i claim: if they dont nerf acarnist players are going to leave ESO (which is bad for business) cuz nobody wants to play a game with only one reasonable class. period on top of that this class by now is beyond stupidy when it comes to skill rotations. The orb (or whatever you call this) minigame is not very well designed.
Solid B tier for pvp. No where close to being as good as DK.
Indeed.
I believe that MalcolM summarized it best when he said that the class was "exceedingly mediocre."
Arcanist has good survivability but it pays for it with a lack of burst damage. Witness nearly all high-tier Arcanists using the same tired Master's DW x Vate Destro combo. It's the gear not the class.
I have been saying this all along! Every time I see someone say, "Arcanist is going to get nerfed, it's OP" and I'm like, STOP listening to the click-bait Youtubers because if you actually watch most of their build videos, EVERY class to them is "God mode". However, with Arcanist, you have to run very specific gear, and even then, it still does not outperform several other classes. So it really cannot be considered OP in any true sense of the word, even with very specific gear. However, in the hands of an exceptional player who has devoted HOURS to their builds and skill rotation, sure, ANY class could become OP.
However, for the majority of players, Arcanist is not, and never will be, OP.
I think you are missing one key point here. Its gonna be used for support more then anything else and in that category it is absolutely op. The buffs it gives group are insane.
Arcanist is not OP. All buffs already exist and with the changes to crux and how it disappears after 30 seconds if you don’t keep generating means they already got nerfed pretty hard. Arcanist now needs constant action and generation of crux to maximize its abilities but that’s just not the way things go sometimes, groups gotta wait for everyone to be ready which means the tank or healer is gonna lose crux.
Tank, with the right build might be top tier or A tier but healer is C, imo, and damage is C as well (working on a S,A,B,C,D tier scale).
Only difference with Arcanist vs other average/slightly below average classes is that it’s actually pretty fun in PvE regardless. (Until you get to harder content anyway)
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✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »YandereGirlfriend wrote: »ShalidorsHeir wrote: »Well i claim: if they dont nerf acarnist players are going to leave ESO (which is bad for business) cuz nobody wants to play a game with only one reasonable class. period on top of that this class by now is beyond stupidy when it comes to skill rotations. The orb (or whatever you call this) minigame is not very well designed.
Solid B tier for pvp. No where close to being as good as DK.
Indeed.
I believe that MalcolM summarized it best when he said that the class was "exceedingly mediocre."
Arcanist has good survivability but it pays for it with a lack of burst damage. Witness nearly all high-tier Arcanists using the same tired Master's DW x Vate Destro combo. It's the gear not the class.
I have been saying this all along! Every time I see someone say, "Arcanist is going to get nerfed, it's OP" and I'm like, STOP listening to the click-bait Youtubers because if you actually watch most of their build videos, EVERY class to them is "God mode". However, with Arcanist, you have to run very specific gear, and even then, it still does not outperform several other classes. So it really cannot be considered OP in any true sense of the word, even with very specific gear. However, in the hands of an exceptional player who has devoted HOURS to their builds and skill rotation, sure, ANY class could become OP.
However, for the majority of players, Arcanist is not, and never will be, OP.
I think you are missing one key point here. Its gonna be used for support more then anything else and in that category it is absolutely op. The buffs it gives group are insane.
Arcanist is not OP. All buffs already exist and with the changes to crux and how it disappears after 30 seconds if you don’t keep generating means they already got nerfed pretty hard. Arcanist now needs constant action and generation of crux to maximize its abilities but that’s just not the way things go sometimes, groups gotta wait for everyone to be ready which means the tank or healer is gonna lose crux.
Tank, with the right build might be top tier or A tier but healer is C, imo, and damage is C as well (working on a S,A,B,C,D tier scale).
Only difference with Arcanist vs other average/slightly below average classes is that it’s actually pretty fun in PvE regardless. (Until you get to harder content anyway)
Arcanist’s Domain requires no crux and makes yolo redundant, tank can run another set
Circumvented Fate is a passive that grants you and your group minor evasion for 20 sec after you cast any Arcanist skill. Can happen every 5 sec so basically a perm buff. Also has a skill that supplies brittle and vulnerability for 14 seconds 4x the uptime of wardens that alone makes it good and one for heroism as well, endurance and a host of others. All of which do not cost crux. The healing ones heal more with crux in some cases but the buffs arent contingent on it.
I dunno where you are at in the game but im in several end game guilds and this is a huge topic of conversation right now.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I decided to go against my initial decision and made a Stam Arcanist today, played with it for an hour or two, and it's stupid fun, like I don't want to enjoy it but it's enjoyable. The Green Beam charged up with three Crux just MELTS overland mobs, it's stupid fun to use on large pulls because of the way it's a manually targeted Cone AoE instead of a single target like Templar's jesus beam, and this is on a Level 6 with no gear, I'm interested in seeing what a fully leveled and built Arcanist can do.
My one massive groan now though. Grinding to Level 50.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
Legate_Lanius✭✭✭ShalidorsHeir wrote: »Well i claim: if they dont nerf acarnist players are going to leave ESO (which is bad for business) cuz nobody wants to play a game with only one reasonable class. period on top of that this class by now is beyond stupidy when it comes to skill rotations. The orb (or whatever you call this) minigame is not very well designed.
It’s called Crux… I mean if you want to criticize something, get the names.
Class is far from OP and its only burst gets easily interrupted both in PvE and PvP losing damage and cruxes in the process. Other classes don’t really have that problem.
Cruxes work like combo points from WoW rogues, build a ressource then spend. It’s nothing crazy but interesting enough, more so than the other classes who pretty much don’t have any sort of system in the first place.
The class is just not for you.3
