[Request] Crafting requirements should be removed from motifs that still have them

Kendaric · May 2023

Could we please get the requirements removed from the motifs that still have them (e.g. Yokudan, Barbaric, Primal)? They made sense when ESO was released, but they serve no purpose other than to annoy people now.
It may not matter for many older players, but new(er) players would definitely benefit from having the requirements removed.

Edit: As an alternative, motifs with requirements could at least be changed to work like furniture/provisioning recipes (can be read and learned just not crafted without meeting the requirement).
That should at least unlock their respective outfit styles for use since they are gained when a player learns the motif.

Edit 2: This would bring the motifs in line with the rest of the motifs that have no such requirement such as motif pages gained from dungeons or through DLC delve/world boss dailies.

The following motifs have requirements (there may be more):

Alliance styles (rank 10 crafting)
Ancient elf (rank 8 crafting)
Barbaric (rank 7 crafting)
Buoyant Armiger (rank 19 crafting)
Celestial (rank 10 crafting)
Daedic (rank 9 crafting)
Draugr (rank 10 crafting)
Dwemer (rank 9 crafting)
Mercenary (rank 9 crafting)
Primal (rank 6 crafting)
Xivkyn (rank 9 crafting)
Yokudan (rank 9 crafting)

Could this be forwarded to the appropriate devs, @ZOS_Kevin ?

El_Borracho · May 2023

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

Hapexamendios · May 2023

It is rather antiquated at this point.

ZOS_Phoenix · May 2023

Greetings,

After review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic (Crafting, as this topic is regarding crafting motifs and crafting rank requirements).

Thank you for your understanding.

vsrs_au · May 2023

El_Borracho wrote: »

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

I'm no expert on this, but doesn't "learning" a motif page, i.e. adding it to the Item Sets aka stickerbook, reduce the outfit station cost for applying that style?

phaneub17_ESO · May 2023

vsrs_au wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

I'm no expert on this, but doesn't "learning" a motif page, i.e. adding it to the Item Sets aka stickerbook, reduce the outfit station cost for applying that style?

Nope. Purely artificial, styles that are 750 will always be that cost, 1000, 1500, or 3000 all are arbitrary based on what the devs want them to be.

Daoin · May 2023

so you want to make and wear the armours styles while being a novice crafter at 0 crafting skill level ? is kind of like saying i want to make the best potions but dont want learn how

Kendaric · May 2023

Daoin wrote: »

so you want to make and wear the armours styles while being a novice crafter at 0 crafting skill level ? is kind of like saying i want to make the best potions but dont want learn how

No, it is about getting rid of an old relic from a time when ESO was very different. Back then, you had a linear progression through the zones and it made sense to have certain motifs require certain skill levels, such as Craglorn being an endgame zone having motifs that require rank 9 or 10.

That system doesn't exist anymore and the majority of motifs do not require anything. What I want is getting rid of the inconsistencies between the motifs, especially when it comes to their use in the outfitter.

And for the record... I have several characters with rank 10 in multiple crafting skills, so I'm not really affected either way.

Braffin · May 2023

Kendaric wrote: »

Could we please get the requirements removed from the motifs that still have them (e.g. Yokudan, Barbaric, Primal)? They made sense when ESO was released, but they serve no purpose other than to annoy people now.
It may not matter for many older players, but new(er) players would definitely benefit from having the requirements removed.

Edit: As an alternative, motifs with requirements could at least be changed to work like furniture/provisioning recipes (can be read and learned just not crafted without meeting the requirement).
That should at least unlock their respective outfit styles for use since they are gained when a player learns the motif.

Edit 2: This would bring the motifs in line with the rest of the motifs that have no such requirement such as motif pages gained from dungeons or through DLC delve/world boss dailies.

The following motifs have requirements (there may be more):

Alliance styles (rank 10 crafting)
Ancient elf (rank 8 crafting)
Barbaric (rank 7 crafting)
Buoyant Armiger (rank 19 crafting)
Celestial (rank 10 crafting)
Daedic (rank 9 crafting)
Draugr (rank 10 crafting)
Dwemer (rank 9 crafting)
Primal (rank 6 crafting)
Xivkyn (rank 9 crafting)
Yokudan (rank 9 crafting)

Could this be forwarded to the appropriate devs, @ZOS_Kevin ?

Completely with you on this topic.

If you're aiming for a complete list of affected motifs you may also want add this:

Motif 19: Mercenary Style (rank 9 crafting)

kringled_1 · May 2023

vsrs_au wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

I'm no expert on this, but doesn't "learning" a motif page, i.e. adding it to the Item Sets aka stickerbook, reduce the outfit station cost for applying that style?

I think you have the cost reduction for set reconstruction mixed up with outfits here.

vsrs_au · May 2023

kringled_1 wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

I'm no expert on this, but doesn't "learning" a motif page, i.e. adding it to the Item Sets aka stickerbook, reduce the outfit station cost for applying that style?

I think you have the cost reduction for set reconstruction mixed up with outfits here.

Yes, it looks like I did, thanks for the info.

LunaFlora · May 2023

El_Borracho wrote: »

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

you don't have to get a character to level 160+ to have the ability to use the outfit station on different characters. you can learn motifs and customise your outfit at any level.

El_Borracho · May 2023

LunaFlora wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Agreed. The funny part is that if you have a CP160+ character, you have effectively unlocked all of the motifs on all characters through the outfit station. While you can't craft gear in that style, you can certainly wear it in an outfit

you don't have to get a character to level 160+ to have the ability to use the outfit station on different characters. you can learn motifs and customise your outfit at any level.

Ahh, yes. I confused the set levels for motifs. You are correct!