OBJnoob wrote: »

If you always want to be first to the fight then you're going to need something that can survive a beating because you might be alone and outnumbered a lot. I think you'll want a DK or a Warden for that. Of the two I think Wardens are the most mobile. An orc Warden, for instance, is pretty darn fast with little effort.

The bad news is I think both of these are strongest when played with a hybrid lean towards magicka. Of the two, DK playstyle has the more melee feel to it I think.

See that’s what keeps happening to me as a nightblade-I rush into a group while cloaked, maybe take out somebody and then I get dumped. Or I’ll hang nearby, attempt to take someone out, get spotted, pulled out of cloak or caught. I want to be able to keep picking people off within a group because I would rather be in combat than running away/searching for an opportunity.

Soarora wrote: »

Sounds like you want to be a dpsy tank, which I know DKs are known for. Warden and maybe Templar are also good ideas. In dungeons, you should never pull before the tank but if you’re a dpsy tank then can just queue as tank for normals most likely. Just use the morph of inner rage that increases your own damage against the target and maybe use chains. It’s fun chaining players in PvP too though I don’t know how well it’d actually work out.

I always queue as a dps, hate tanking. In pvp too, tanks don’t do much dps, just annoy and support.

Nyseto wrote: »

I’m extremely impatient when it comes to combat meaning that in pvp and dungeons I’m always rushing to get to the next fight ahead of everyone. I don’t like waiting for the perfect opportunity, but rather creating it. I also don’t like too many pets or magicka builds. I’d rather have other players feel like there’s nowhere to run or hide.

See that’s what keeps happening to me as a nightblade-I rush into a group while cloaked, maybe take out somebody and then I get dumped. Or I’ll hang nearby, attempt to take someone out, get spotted, pulled out of cloak or caught. I want to be able to keep picking people off within a group because I would rather be in combat than running away/searching for an opportunity.

Nightblade has a high skill ceiling. Picking off people, e.g. 1vXing, is a rather ambitious goal that is difficult at the best of times. You're typically working at the edge of a zerg, always making sure you have no one behind you. Clips on YouTube are invariably cherry-picked. Better to tune in to a good player on Twitch to see (a) how they build and play and (b) where they go on the map for favorable conditions. My suggestion would also be to play in Ravenwatch. A lot of newer players go there on PC EU. The competition in Ravenwatch is soft in my experience. You also won't run afoul of proc sets, such as Dark Convergence.

You have different options as a nightblade. One is to learn stamblade properly. By far the best video I have ever seen on that topic is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgRmoWuvAy0

Another option would be playing a fast magblade, which I do. Building for high speed and cloak sustain lowers your damage, but boosts your survivability. True infinite cloak sustain plus speed also gives you incredible freedom to go where you want, criss-crossing busy battlefields and spearheading through doors into a hostile keep with relative impunity. The trouble with going hard into this kind of spec is that it can eat substantially into your damage.

I suppose AOE specs deserve a mention. I'm not an expert on those, but I believe you don't have to be an outright bomber to benefit from this approach. Rush of Agony hits hard, even single target. Ambush -> Soul Tether -> Whirlwind might not kill everyone you hit, but may do enough damage that you're not immediately subjected to counter attack. Same idea with wearing Zoal. That set gets zergs off your back when you need it most, i.e. when you are CCd. Not the best option for damage - Balorgh is invariably your choice for that - but it plays well.

If you're asking for the best class other than nightblade, I'm not sure any of the brawler classes would be your cup of tea. DK Leap is definitely fun, and fun specifically as a gap closer too. To say warden is fast, e.g. presumably because Bird of Prey is finally decent and worth slotting, is questionable though. Any class can be fast. You can dodge roll with a bow. You can slot Race Against Time. That doesn't make you faster than the average player, because every class has those options.

If you're prone to rushing in and dying, then the class I recommend is stamsorc. You got Streak. You got Minor Expedition on top of Major with a bow (backbar). You can literally probe a zerg by streaking into it and, if they turn out competent, you streak back out. 2x Streak in a row creates enough distance that you are momentarily out of attack range, unless your opponents are very determined. Streak stuns everyone and is much easier to use than the nightblade toolkit.

That said, sorc has issues. It's a fun class, but is not regarded as highly competitive right now. Damage tends to be good, healing is not. You also need to watch your resources lest you be too reckless with Streak. The idea is to alternate between that skill and dodge rolls. Bow is IMO highly recommended. I use a Blackrose bow and Draining Shot to help with healing. I also use a Master's 2H on the other bar. Spamming Brawler in PvP with good sustain is effective to bolster defense, though basically a noob killer build. I recommend going hybrid, using Curse and the sorc execute with this, giving the build more bite than in older patches.

The other stamsorc I've seen that made sense to me was a Dizzying Swing build with Crystal Weapon for more burst, Rally for the Major Brutality / Sorcery / heal, but no Crit Surge. I have not played this, but would say it's stronger to take people out 1v1. Of course anything goes. Bow main and dual wield should also be viable, although always bear in mind sorc's problem is that Vigor + Crit Surge + Dark Deal is not enough healing. Dark Deal is channeled, which means your burst heal is time delayed and can be interrupted. Pet healing has it's own downsides (double slotted, can be killed).

Anyway, here's an old clip of my Brawler stamsorc in action in a low MMR BG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VniS3OdmC6k