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Too much debuff cleanup and weak dot damage.
Melzo
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What kind of nonsense with dot damage and dispelling negative effects ??? I play as dk against manaplar. 4 buttons are pressed, applying 6-7 negative effects. Mara was the first to clean everything up. Then I put 6-7 negative effects on him again, and he pressed Extended Ritual. while I pressed two more dot effect buttons, he pressed Extended Ritual again. As a result, mara and two rituals cleared him of 17 dot effects. What nonsense, how the ability to cleanse from 5 effects heals and gives synergy. My dot effects last 25+ seconds. They just don't do anything. I press 3-4 buttons, it cleans one and heals at the same time. Even a necromancer pays for the cleansing with his life, and he also heals and removes 5 dot effects...
There is a set that removes all effects every 15 seconds if using an ability for mana. Mara heals every second and also cleanses every 15 seconds. What kind of imbalance is this???
There is a set that removes all effects every 15 seconds if using an ability for mana. Mara heals every second and also cleanses every 15 seconds. What kind of imbalance is this???
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Melzo✭✭✭✭The number of buttons I pressed was 12 and he pressed 2 in total .... His periodic healing healed more than all my abilities.0
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TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm surprised the Templar used ritual at all given the weakness of DOTs right now and what Maras will do for free.
It is a crap meta for sure, but TBH; you're also playing it wrong by trying to apply so many DOTs and debuffs. DK is still strong but sadly it's not about the pressure you're trying to do any more. It's just get to the next whip.Edited by TechMaybeHic on 2 October 2022 13:563 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭The number of buttons I pressed was 12 and he pressed 2 in total .... His periodic healing healed more than all my abilities.TechMaybeHic wrote: »I'm surprised the Templar used ritual at all given the weakness of DOTs right now and what Maras will do for free.
It is a crap meta for sure, but TBH; you're also playing it wrong by trying to apply so many. DK is still strong but sadly it's not about the pressure you're trying to do any more. It's just get to the next whip.
I play through dot damage and my whip deals 5-6 damage. Even with corrosives, he deals 8-9k at best. Plara just has too much skill. Removes 5 debuffs. Most have 5 debuffs at best and each is a skill. You literally remove all the efforts of the player and at the same time heal and throw synergies to your friends. This skill is intended for one-time use. And squeezing 2-3 times is an abuse. The mana spell can hit the Plar as much as he wants, but the Plar can take away all efforts with two buttons. And mara is just an imbalanced set. A similar set already exists, but zos made a copy and buffed it significantly.
The maximum that the skill should do is remove only 2 negative effects. Given that it has two additional effects. The best synergy and healing mass dot
A necromancer spends life for removing 4 buffs from himself and has no additional effects... Balance??? *** the balance...0 -
TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The number of buttons I pressed was 12 and he pressed 2 in total .... His periodic healing healed more than all my abilities.TechMaybeHic wrote: »I'm surprised the Templar used ritual at all given the weakness of DOTs right now and what Maras will do for free.
It is a crap meta for sure, but TBH; you're also playing it wrong by trying to apply so many. DK is still strong but sadly it's not about the pressure you're trying to do any more. It's just get to the next whip.
I play through dot damage and my whip deals 5-6 damage. Even with corrosives, he deals 8-9k at best. Plara just has too much skill. Removes 5 debuffs. Most have 5 debuffs at best and each is a skill. You literally remove all the efforts of the player and at the same time heal and throw synergies to your friends. This skill is intended for one-time use. And squeezing 2-3 times is an abuse. The mana spell can hit the Plar as much as he wants, but the Plar can take away all efforts with two buttons. And mara is just an imbalanced set. A similar set already exists, but zos made a copy and buffed it significantly.
The maximum that the skill should do is remove only 2 negative effects. Given that it has two additional effects. The best synergy and healing mass dot
A necromancer spends life for removing 4 buffs from himself and has no additional effects... Balance??? *** the balance...
You really are doing it wrong0 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭Dk should not revolve around the whip. This is the meaning of the game. I could create a build for corrosion. Take 100500+ weapon damage crit damage and hit with a whip. But when a plara is hit by 5 players and he slows everyone down, he removes all debuffs and at the same time heals everything. Plar has the highest heal in the game, and at the same time, he removes negative effects from himself. How then to kill him? The ability is too awesome.
The game needs to be balanced but a lot of abilities or sets are just too strong. And this ability gives too much. I could understand if she only removed 5 debuffs. But why does she heal and give synergy to allies??Edited by Melzo on 2 October 2022 14:240 -
TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dk should not revolve around the whip. This is the meaning of the game. I could create a build for corrosion. Take 100500+ weapon damage crit damage and hit with a whip. But when a plara is hit by 5 players and he slows everyone down, he removes all debuffs and at the same time heals everything. Plar has the highest heal in the game, and at the same time, he removes negative effects from himself. How then to kill him? The ability is too awesome.
The game needs to be balanced but a lot of abilities or sets are just too strong. And this ability gives too much. I could understand if she only removed 5 debuffs. But why does she heal and give synergy to allies??
You literally are playing DK, which is in top 2 or 3 right now if not top, and that list doesn't include Templar, yet you are complaining about Templar. And it's because you are holding on to a past play style that is gone due to DOT nerfs and Maras while DK burst got majorly increased since hybrid started. And as a DK saying Templar has the highest heal in the game?! You're living in the pastEdited by TechMaybeHic on 2 October 2022 15:062 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭TechMaybeHic wrote: »Dk should not revolve around the whip. This is the meaning of the game. I could create a build for corrosion. Take 100500+ weapon damage crit damage and hit with a whip. But when a plara is hit by 5 players and he slows everyone down, he removes all debuffs and at the same time heals everything. Plar has the highest heal in the game, and at the same time, he removes negative effects from himself. How then to kill him? The ability is too awesome.
The game needs to be balanced but a lot of abilities or sets are just too strong. And this ability gives too much. I could understand if she only removed 5 debuffs. But why does she heal and give synergy to allies??
You literally are playing DK, which is in top 2 or 3 right now if not top, and that list doesn't include Templar, yet you are complaining about Templar. And it's because you are holding on to a past play style that is gone due to DOT nerfs and Maras while DK burst got majorly increased since hybrid started. And as a DK saying Templar has the highest heal in the game?! You're living in the past
What's with my dk??? I write that the ability is too strong, which makes certain builds impossible. And that dot damage in pvp is too weak. I wrote on the example of my dk. And not because I'm too worried that I saw 1-2 plaк with this skill in one week...Why does one class clear only 4 buffs and the other 5 and at the same time give 2 additional effects?1 -
TechMaybeHic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TechMaybeHic wrote: »Dk should not revolve around the whip. This is the meaning of the game. I could create a build for corrosion. Take 100500+ weapon damage crit damage and hit with a whip. But when a plara is hit by 5 players and he slows everyone down, he removes all debuffs and at the same time heals everything. Plar has the highest heal in the game, and at the same time, he removes negative effects from himself. How then to kill him? The ability is too awesome.
The game needs to be balanced but a lot of abilities or sets are just too strong. And this ability gives too much. I could understand if she only removed 5 debuffs. But why does she heal and give synergy to allies??
You literally are playing DK, which is in top 2 or 3 right now if not top, and that list doesn't include Templar, yet you are complaining about Templar. And it's because you are holding on to a past play style that is gone due to DOT nerfs and Maras while DK burst got majorly increased since hybrid started. And as a DK saying Templar has the highest heal in the game?! You're living in the past
What's with my dk??? I write that the ability is too strong, which makes certain builds impossible. And that dot damage in pvp is too weak. I wrote on the example of my dk. And not because I'm too worried that I saw 1-2 plaк with this skill in one week...Why does one class clear only 4 buffs and the other 5 and at the same time give 2 additional effects?
4500 or so mag vs is it even 1k health? Or warden has a free 1 every 5 seconds, or you can spam it, that actually gives resources and major sorcery/brutality.
Why do you worry about 1 skill at all when it's overall not causing a problem? It just makes you look bad0 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭TechMaybeHic wrote: »TechMaybeHic wrote: »Dk should not revolve around the whip. This is the meaning of the game. I could create a build for corrosion. Take 100500+ weapon damage crit damage and hit with a whip. But when a plara is hit by 5 players and he slows everyone down, he removes all debuffs and at the same time heals everything. Plar has the highest heal in the game, and at the same time, he removes negative effects from himself. How then to kill him? The ability is too awesome.
The game needs to be balanced but a lot of abilities or sets are just too strong. And this ability gives too much. I could understand if she only removed 5 debuffs. But why does she heal and give synergy to allies??
You literally are playing DK, which is in top 2 or 3 right now if not top, and that list doesn't include Templar, yet you are complaining about Templar. And it's because you are holding on to a past play style that is gone due to DOT nerfs and Maras while DK burst got majorly increased since hybrid started. And as a DK saying Templar has the highest heal in the game?! You're living in the past
What's with my dk??? I write that the ability is too strong, which makes certain builds impossible. And that dot damage in pvp is too weak. I wrote on the example of my dk. And not because I'm too worried that I saw 1-2 plaк with this skill in one week...Why does one class clear only 4 buffs and the other 5 and at the same time give 2 additional effects?
4500 or so mag vs is it even 1k health? Or warden has a free 1 every 5 seconds, or you can spam it, that actually gives resources and major sorcery/brutality.
Why do you worry about 1 skill at all when it's overall not causing a problem? It just makes you look bad
Yes, that one skill worries me. And yes, mara worries me. Yes, I'm worried that dot damage in pvp is too weak. It worries me that this skill frankly gives 3 effects and there is only one necromancer. There are so many nuances that break the game. Aren't you worried that the plar has no damage?? It doesn't bother you that mana forty is not that much and everyone whines that he is weak. I don't care too much for my main class necromancer and 99 posts about it. I gave as an example that the ability is too strong. And dot damage is too weak. I literally get 17 ka of damage from nb from a bow at 35-40 ka of armor. This is what really worries me. Does at least one dot damage 17k??0 -
Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just put on way of fire and master dual wield, easy 0 skill dot proc setup, even if purged you can reapply it with basically no cost whatsoever.0