BalticBlues wrote: »

As shields use the resistance of Armor, they are useful only playing in HeavyArmor.

Where or how did you get that information?
I was guessing that shields take the actual char resistance, which is only a bit impacted by the armor itself.
But I was just guessing, because I don't know how it really works.

Dr_Con wrote: »

weekly reminder that magsorcs are completing vet vateshran and vMA in greater numbers than other classes, and are pretty deadly in pvp with both bruiser and glass cannon setups.

perfectly content with my magsorc, I guess others aren't- that doesn't mean we should overbuff the class then see nerfs later.

their philosophy is "play how you want"- not "get fantasy results by playing how you want." There will always be a meta or way to do more damage, so long as an ability isn't broken, you can always find ways to improve your gameplay or damage.

p.s. i see people saying pets sorcs are not viable in pvp. pet sorcs are quite annoying in pvp against certain opponents. they often soak up damage intended for the caster and a properly kitted pvp petsorc will know how to use this in conjunction with daedric prey and positioning to their advantage.

Magsorcs are viable in pve, sure, stamina is better though and stamina only appears once in the top 30 of end game content such as vSS leaderboards with magsorcs not appearing in that content until rank 81. Also, the class only became viable after the devs realized they completely messed up with their over-nerfing of the class in U35 and reverted the reduced damage of BA as well as doubling the bonus damage that prey grants for the pets as last-minute band-aid solutions to bring the class into line with the other classes in the game (even magden was better than magsorc before the reversing of these nerfs and the insane over-buff to prey). How harsh does a nerf to a class have to be that a +100% damage increase to 2 abilities is required to bring the class up to a playable level (not even top tier, just playable) after how much it was nerfed, that is not a strong class by any measurement.

As for pet sorcs in pvp, I am yet to see or hear about one doing anything in openworld or in any mid to high tier bgs, the only place I see that spec is in low/newbie bgs and occasionally in duels where the pets can turn a 1v1 into a 4v1 which only really works against single target focused builds and players that don't know how to tab-target enemies.
Maybe it happens in PC NA where there's almost no lag anymore, but for PC EU where lag still very much exists, pet sorc (and magsorc in general) just doesn't exist outside of being plague/occult/vicious death fodder in the middle of zergs, negate/streak bots in ball groups or mages wrath kill stealers in low level bgs and even there stamsorc is much more popular and stronger spec.

Dr_Con wrote: »

weekly reminder that magsorcs are completing vet vateshran and vMA in greater numbers than other classes, and are pretty deadly in pvp with both bruiser and glass cannon setups.

perfectly content with my magsorc, I guess others aren't- that doesn't mean we should overbuff the class then see nerfs later.

their philosophy is "play how you want"- not "get fantasy results by playing how you want." There will always be a meta or way to do more damage, so long as an ability isn't broken, you can always find ways to improve your gameplay or damage.

p.s. i see people saying pets sorcs are not viable in pvp. pet sorcs are quite annoying in pvp against certain opponents. they often soak up damage intended for the caster and a properly kitted pvp petsorc will know how to use this in conjunction with daedric prey and positioning to their advantage.

Most of those mag sorcs in solo arenas are likely stacking Crit surge and Pale Order. At a minimum Crit surge though.

And yeah, crit surge is a fantastic heal in PVE land, where sustained damage and crit chance/damage is king. Crit surge completely fails in PVP where burst damage is key to beating opponents and sorcs can barely build for crit chance and still be viable.

kapachia wrote: »

MetallicMonk wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

weekly reminder that magsorcs are completing vet vateshran and vMA in greater numbers than other classes, and are pretty deadly in pvp with both bruiser and glass cannon setups.

perfectly content with my magsorc, I guess others aren't- that doesn't mean we should overbuff the class then see nerfs later.

their philosophy is "play how you want"- not "get fantasy results by playing how you want." There will always be a meta or way to do more damage, so long as an ability isn't broken, you can always find ways to improve your gameplay or damage.

p.s. i see people saying pets sorcs are not viable in pvp. pet sorcs are quite annoying in pvp against certain opponents. they often soak up damage intended for the caster and a properly kitted pvp petsorc will know how to use this in conjunction with daedric prey and positioning to their advantage.

This has to be bait.

No, he is from another reality. Avg MagSorc will be eaten alive by Avg StamWarden and StamDK.

ZOS should stop trying to force MagSorc to play with pet. How many StamWarden do you see running around with bear pet in Cyrodiil?

this, I honestly cannot remember the last time I was ever frustrated when fighting a magsorc, if they streak away, I count that as a win, they've ran off, if they stay and fight, their damage is nonexistent, super predictable and easily avoided, and they have no staying power due to the severe lack of defensive options in the kit.