Mr_Stach wrote: »

Tying weapons to passives or skills is a terrible direction, you shouldn't be required to run ANY weapon to get the full value of class feature.

This especially hurts people who don't want to use Ice Staff but will feel forced to get the full value.

Make Ice Staff desirable inside the Destro Tree instead of this weird Frankenstein Change.

I agree, if they want the weapon to be used, they should fix the passives in the weapon tree to fit what they want for it, not pigeon hole one class into using it while simultaneously restricticting other classes from using the weapon to it's full potential

lQrukl wrote: »

Piercing Cold: This passive now increases your damage done by 1/2% which increases to 5/10% while wielding an Ice Staff, rather than increasing your Magic and Frost Damage by 5/10%.

Sorcerer need same for Energized please!

Energized:
Increases your Physical and Shock Damage by 5%.
Increases your damage done by X/Y% which increases to Z/Q% while wielding a Storm Staff.

UPD:

lQrukl wrote: »

Ok, I was quick to rejoice. But after whole this time staff users have been ignored, I can't blame myself for that. Just a single piece of changes in which staff users were remembered blew my mind.

Lets just kill every build and class no more play what u want.

what next lets kill and tied every class with specific weapon..

Warden:
Piercing Cold: This passive now increases your damage done by 1/2% which increases to 5/10% while wielding an Ice Staff, rather than increasing your Magic and Frost Damage by 5/10%.

Sorcerer:
Energized: This passive now Increases your damage done by 1/2% which increases to 5/10% while wielding an shock staff.
rather then Increasing your Physical and Shock Damage by 3/5%.

Expert Mage: This passive now Increases penetration by 990 for each Sorcerer ability slotted, rather then Increases Spell Damage and Weapon Damage by 2% for each Sorcerer ability slotted.

Dragonknight:
World in Ruin passive: This passive now Increases your damage of your Flame and Poison attacks by 1/2%. which increase to 3/5% while wielding an fire staff,
rather then increasing your damage of your Flame and Poison attacks by 3/5%.

Searing Heat: This passive now only increase Dragonknight Standard abilities by 25% and the duration by 4 seconds,
rather then Increases the damage of Fiery Breath, Searing Strike, and Dragonknight Standard abilities by 25% and the duration by 4 seconds.

Templar:
Balanced Warrior: This passive now Increases critical rate by 2%. which increase to 3/5% while wielding duel wield
rather then Increases Weapon and Spell Damage by 6% and Physical and Spell Resistance by 1320.

and more...

This changes should be in weapons passive not in class passive.

I hope u change and nerf every class with this stupid ideas




@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

This is a terrible idea for so many reasons, as outlined elsewhere. What zos has been doing to warden of late boggles the mind. Do they not have the resources/personnel/passion to put the effort in for a paid class.
Warden was pretty good in u35, and could bring value in every spec, it just needed some small improvements to several morphs. There were a lot of good ideas floating around the community, presented here in the forums. But as usual combat devs think they know best, or outright refuse to take any advice, and deliberately forge a different path even if it's a bad one.

Nser wrote: »

lQrukl wrote: »

Piercing Cold: This passive now increases your damage done by 1/2% which increases to 5/10% while wielding an Ice Staff, rather than increasing your Magic and Frost Damage by 5/10%.

Sorcerer need same for Energized please!

Energized:
Increases your Physical and Shock Damage by 5%.
Increases your damage done by X/Y% which increases to Z/Q% while wielding a Storm Staff.

UPD:

lQrukl wrote: »

Ok, I was quick to rejoice. But after whole this time staff users have been ignored, I can't blame myself for that. Just a single piece of changes in which staff users were remembered blew my mind.

Lets just kill every build and class no more play what u want.

what next lets kill and tied every class with specific weapon..

Warden:
Piercing Cold: This passive now increases your damage done by 1/2% which increases to 5/10% while wielding an Ice Staff, rather than increasing your Magic and Frost Damage by 5/10%.

Sorcerer:
Energized: This passive now Increases your damage done by 1/2% which increases to 5/10% while wielding an shock staff.
rather then Increasing your Physical and Shock Damage by 3/5%.

Expert Mage: This passive now Increases penetration by 990 for each Sorcerer ability slotted, rather then Increases Spell Damage and Weapon Damage by 2% for each Sorcerer ability slotted.

Dragonknight:
World in Ruin passive: This passive now Increases your damage of your Flame and Poison attacks by 1/2%. which increase to 3/5% while wielding an fire staff,
rather then increasing your damage of your Flame and Poison attacks by 3/5%.

Searing Heat: This passive now only increase Dragonknight Standard abilities by 25% and the duration by 4 seconds,
rather then Increases the damage of Fiery Breath, Searing Strike, and Dragonknight Standard abilities by 25% and the duration by 4 seconds.

Templar:
Balanced Warrior: This passive now Increases critical rate by 2%. which increase to 3/5% while wielding duel wield
rather then Increases Weapon and Spell Damage by 6% and Physical and Spell Resistance by 1320.

and more...

This changes should be in weapons passive not in class passive.

I hope u change and nerf every class with this stupid ideas




@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Just a reminder that neither ice nor lightning staff bring enough value to be used outside of niche situations.
Adding them as specific weapon for class passive won't break anything.
Warden still deals more damage by using inferno staff then ice staff (not to mention daggers). You could find it out if you went and did a couple parses instead of spitting bile on the forums.
Most of the builds are already homogenized by the same weapons. People already forced to play with what they dislike. With maybe couple of people who like to play with daggers on mage. The only difference is that it is not written directly in the description of passives.

And it's not difficult for me to repeat previous messages in topic. I am not defending current state of PTS changes.
This is an undeserved nerf for warden dps in general. Frost wardens also lose damage.
However, "frost" spec won't deal more damage then other meta builds with this changes. You are not forced to use Ice Staff over daggers or fire staff, despite the fact that fire and frost staves are close in dps. Play "what you want", or, more accurately, what meta wants.