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Should I just give up on PVP Werewolf for now?

DigiAngel
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Bleh...I really like playing this in PVE, but my Stamplar WW is dreadful in PVP. Should I just give up for now? Or is there a solid build out there that actually works? Thank you!
  • Soarora
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    Why is it bad? I got into PvP as a werewolf and did pretty good but that was a few patches ago. Now I don’t do it as much for a few reasons but I will try it if things aren’t going well.
    PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore
    • CP 2000+
    • Warden Healer - Arcanist Healer - Warden Brittleden - Stamarc - Sorc Tank - Necro Tank - Templar Tank - Arcanist Tank
    • Trials: 9/12 HMs - 3/8 Tris
    • Dungeons: 30/30 HMs - 24/24 Tris
    • All Veterans completed!

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  • dogshaman
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    Washargo will always be a Werewolf, but sustain is still a major issue.
    Once the resources run out, this one dies.

    With most one on one fights, Washargo can either win or stalemate 65% of the time.
    However, if the fight lasts awhile, usually 3 or 4 more enemies will arrive and this one must run or fall.
    It is always best to fight with others, just beware the dreaded Vicious Death and Occult Overload.


    "Some people say that Werewolves can only change under the full moons, but people also say there are no such things as ghosts."
    ~ M'aiq the Liar
    Washargo ~ Khajiit Warden Werewolf
    ~ Crow Friend and honorary member of the Coldsnap Goblin Tribe
    ~ Wanted by the Daggerfall Covenant and Ebonheart Pact for thievery, pickpocketing, impersonating a Daedric Prince, pandemonium and general mayhem
  • DigiAngel
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    Yea it's survivability that gets me....was hoping for some advice here about that.
  • Firstmep
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    Werewolf is not in a great spot, eith claws of life nerfed your basically spamming howl for burst heal and that's it.
  • DigiAngel
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    Sigh....thanks...yea I was thinking of this build:

    blooddrinker 5
    vengeance leech 3
    trainee 3
    markyn 1

    At this point guess I won't put anymore effort into it for now.
  • dogshaman
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    Well, what works for this one best as a Werewolf, is one set for sustain and then a good damage set.

    Washargo is currently using Wretched Vitality and Spriggans: 5 Heavy, 1 med, 1 light with Oakensoul and 1 Valkyn Skoria.
    When wolfed-out, this gives some weapon dmg (around 4.5k), some pen (around 10k), some armor (24k/23k) and around 1400 mag/stam recoveries when Wretched is procced.

    With 64 points into stamina, this one tries to keep health at 30k or over by using tri-stat enchants (or health on individual pieces) on armor.

    It really comes down to what best works for your playstyle. Once you are comfortable with how you fight with your wolf, (ie slash (bleeds) and speed?, high ac/hp tanky? or more moderate (avg hlth, dmg and pen), you will be able to survive alot better.
    Fighting as a wolf takes more work due to the limited skill sets and the very high skill costs, but once you get your unique playstyle down, you can survive better even with bad armor sets.
    Washargo ~ Khajiit Warden Werewolf
    ~ Crow Friend and honorary member of the Coldsnap Goblin Tribe
    ~ Wanted by the Daggerfall Covenant and Ebonheart Pact for thievery, pickpocketing, impersonating a Daedric Prince, pandemonium and general mayhem
  • DigiAngel
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    Thanks for this!
  • aurelius_fx
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    dogshaman wrote: »
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    why would you ever use spriggans? can't WWs proc off balance
  • dogshaman
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    Werewolf's Roar skill does indeed proc off balance and some sets like Stuhn's Favor will give more pen when damaging off balance enemies. So, many do use Stuhn's as a good damage set.

    And this one tried Stuhn's Favor, but found that when fighting in Cyrodiil, enemies have immunity to off ballance/stun (whether by potions or skills) going on most of the time.

    With Stuhn's, you only get the full 6k pen when it proc's and only for 10 seconds, leaving you with only 1.4k pen most of the time.
    But with Spriggans, this one can have 3.4k pen consistantly, fighting close up or at range.
    Washargo just finds Spriggans constant 3k pen more convenient and easier to use.


    "That Khajiit was one of the most supremely stupid mer I have ever met... He taught me a great deal."
    ~ Helruska Bugldulg (Orsimer shaman and oracle)
    Washargo ~ Khajiit Warden Werewolf
    ~ Crow Friend and honorary member of the Coldsnap Goblin Tribe
    ~ Wanted by the Daggerfall Covenant and Ebonheart Pact for thievery, pickpocketing, impersonating a Daedric Prince, pandemonium and general mayhem
  • CompM4s
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    Take a look at essence thief for damage and sustain
  • DigiAngel
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    Thank you!
  • MISTFORMBZZZ
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    DigiAngel wrote: »
    Bleh...I really like playing this in PVE, but my Stamplar WW is dreadful in PVP. Should I just give up for now? Or is there a solid build out there that actually works? Thank you!


    yes
  • Tberg725
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    Depends on where you play, if you’re talking open world “cyo” then I wouldn’t play WW but in IC I’ve had a blast on WW
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