Offensive and defensive tick suggestion.

Ankael07 · August 2022

Theres a trend in Cyrodiil , big groups avoiding each other and taking empty keeps because its the best viable AP farming option for some people. What if we gave them an option that goes with the spirit of pvp?

Defense ticks should still occur even when the keep falls. That way people would feel more encouraged to defend places. In a similar fashion offensive ticks should still occur even if the keep couldnt be captured.

More rewards for actually pvping rather than pve'ing with guards.

OBJnoob · August 2022

I agree with the spirit of your suggestion but disagree with the suggestion itself. For one thing you do get D ticks throughout the battle, not just at the end, provided you last a while and ideally kill at least one person.

O ticks should definitely not happen if you failed to capture. Again, you get AP as you kill people anyway. And if you went up to a keep, didn't kill anyone, and got wiped... Why should you get an O tick? Not sure that's encouraging PvP.

It sounds like what you really want is for the OBJ to be important enough to attract more attention. But at the same time you're upset that people take empty objectives. Thing is not everybody has your same idea of what is or isn't real PvP. You might just want to fight all the time (me too honestly,) but others are more worried about winning the campaign for their alliance. Which requires pvdooring sometimes.

Ankael07 · August 2022

OBJnoob wrote: »

I agree with the spirit of your suggestion but disagree with the suggestion itself. For one thing you do get D ticks throughout the battle, not just at the end, provided you last a while and ideally kill at least one person.

O ticks should definitely not happen if you failed to capture. Again, you get AP as you kill people anyway. And if you went up to a keep, didn't kill anyone, and got wiped... Why should you get an O tick? Not sure that's encouraging PvP.

It sounds like what you really want is for the OBJ to be important enough to attract more attention. But at the same time you're upset that people take empty objectives. Thing is not everybody has your same idea of what is or isn't real PvP. You might just want to fight all the time (me too honestly,) but others are more worried about winning the campaign for their alliance. Which requires pvdooring sometimes.

Yes pvdooring should stay relevant (score points and owning strategic spawn points etc). Just want actual PvP to be the most rewarding thing

OBJnoob · August 2022

Well I agree. Not to turn your idea on its head but... Let's leave the D and O ticks the same let's DOUBLE the ap from killing players.

Necrotech_Master · August 2022

OBJnoob wrote: »

Well I agree. Not to turn your idea on its head but... Let's leave the D and O ticks the same let's DOUBLE the ap from killing players.

or just double ap from everything permanently lol

geonsocal · August 2022

defending keeps can be a lonely hobby...

Cuddlypuff · August 2022

Interim defence ticks are already given even if the keep eventually falls. This is how bombers get lucky 1M+ D-ticks during MYM low pop. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of your own faction who may come and kill/die, thus extending the tick window and ruining your monster tick.

The most concerning thing is the recent increase in PvDoor speed across all the Door Groups. Outposts flip within 30 seconds and keeps flip within 80 seconds. You literally cannot even port to the nearest keep and ride to the door before it is repaired. You aren't scouting these Door Groups either because they have the patience to crouch up to 20 minutes waiting for a distraction before striking.

I do think there needs to be counterplay against organised PvDoor. At least let there be a grace period of 10 seconds to port in after the keep becomes lit. We all know it only takes 1-2 bombers to wipe the Door Groups anyway.