is this the Gameplay you Envisioned?

X_K · August 2022

First i will Preface this by saying that this damage is only achievable while the target is off balance. its about 160k heavy attack final ticks and 70k channel ticks.
Restoration Staff has the Highest Total Heavy attack damage at
250k Final hit and 106k Mini hit x2 for a total of
469,008 damage if all 3 hits crit.

Restoration Staff at 469,008

Lightning at 468,112

279,392 Bow with 2x hawkeye stacks in melee Range [Possible 300k due to how scaling works]

Duel Wield at 270,238

Two Hander at 237,139

Inferno at 229,010

Sword and Shield at 223,484

And last but not Least Unarmed. coming in at a measly 189,124

Video has been Provided for context.

https://youtu.be/LiOYcNdY1k4

Sandman929 · August 2022

Wow...crazy fun combat they've come up with. Thank you, Spreadsheet Jesus

Jeirno · August 2022

Wow, thank you Zenimax Online Studios, very cool. Can't wait for this new patch where I can fulfil my roleplay dreams!!!!!!

SpacemanSpiff1 · August 2022

yea. it's lit.

Sallymen · August 2022

Jesus, what sets is the person wearing?

xylena_lazarow · August 2022

Here's one that's been making the rounds, just noticed at the bottom also from OP... note the pathetic DoT skill damage.

Dagobertfuk · August 2022

Jeirno wrote: »

Wow, thank you Zenimax Online Studios, very cool. Can't wait for this new patch where I can fulfil my roleplay dreams!!!!!!

But be aware of roleplay names, because you might get banned!!!

X_K · August 2022

Edited New Weapons into Main post. [Edited]

Jeirno · August 2022

OMG ZOS released Monk class finally as a surprise for us!!!!!

HEIIMS · August 2022

*** is 300 bucks

jaws343 · August 2022

The unarmed heavies hitting that high is actually hilarious and should definitely stay due to how funny it is.

X_K · August 2022

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Here's one that's been making the rounds, just noticed at the bottom also from OP... note the pathetic DoT skill damage.

100k Parse is possible on DK. i just dont want to seriously parse with heavy attacks for long enough to get one anymore

FrankonPC · August 2022

I thought the initial goal was to lower the impact of light and heavy attacks on a parse? Very interesting

Arthtur · August 2022

Hmmmm... i think i know how healers will look like in U35...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr_FPbAHids

stevenyaub16_ESO · August 2022

This isn't very useful. We need comparisons between heavy attack builds and regular builds.

Posting a 1 hit parse isn't useful.

People will use whatever build deals the most damage, so if the heavy attack build is behind even by 5% they won't be used by end-game players.

Jeirno · August 2022

stevenyaub16_ESO wrote: »

This isn't very useful. We need comparisons between heavy attack builds and regular builds.

Posting a 1 hit parse isn't useful.

People will use whatever build deals the most damage, so if the heavy attack build is behind even by 5% they won't be used by end-game players.

It is very useful to show how ridiculous these numbers are. Shows the lack of thought that went into these changed from ZOS end.

FrankonPC · August 2022

stevenyaub16_ESO wrote: »

This isn't very useful. We need comparisons between heavy attack builds and regular builds.

Posting a 1 hit parse isn't useful.

People will use whatever build deals the most damage, so if the heavy attack build is behind even by 5% they won't be used by end-game players.

This is extremely useful, maybe you should read the post again and look at the parses.

X_K · August 2022

stevenyaub16_ESO wrote: »

People will use whatever build deals the most damage, so if the heavy attack build is behind even by 5% they won't be used by end-game players.

I and Others have Posted Heavy attack Parses, some over 100k, some close. But not being used by the end game community isn't a bad thing,

if you can hit 100k on a lightning staff heavy attack DK and someone can hit 115k on a LA weave dk, your not gonna get booted from raid unless your dying to blockable mechanics cuz you didn't want to stop your heavy attack channel.

Glantir · August 2022

Well... this forces every class without empower (Sorc & Warden?) to play a Mages Guild skill or Twohander....

meekmiko · August 2022

X_K wrote: »

stevenyaub16_ESO wrote: »

People will use whatever build deals the most damage, so if the heavy attack build is behind even by 5% they won't be used by end-game players.

I and Others have Posted Heavy attack Parses, some over 100k, some close. But not being used by the end game community isn't a bad thing,

if you can hit 100k on a lightning staff heavy attack DK and someone can hit 115k on a LA weave dk, your not gonna get booted from raid unless your dying to blockable mechanics cuz you didn't want to stop your heavy attack channel.

So let me get this straight.
It's not okay when endgame players are hitting 100k+ with double bars and rotations, but it's a-okay when everyone can hit 100k+ with heavy attacks

So blanket nerfs were supposed to drop damage because "it's too high", buuuut now it's made fine cause everyone can hit over 100k?

Which is it? Is damage too high or is this what everyone is supposed to be hitting??
Is this what the plan was?? I don't understand at all anymore.

edward_frigidhands · August 2022

I am coming across videos with some interesting numbers for resto.

https://youtu.be/oGxO6ZWQOf8

Auldwulfe · August 2022

Honestly, while humorous --- I like the idea of where this is going - albeit the result might need to be tweaked
However, I play a Breton Sorc as my main - double destruction and the Clanfear as my pet to heal -- the flappy is just too big and annoying

I have wanted to have a healing staff on my back bar, and drop the pet since forever --- and now it is actually somewhat viable.
Lightning staff on the front, and healing on the back - I CAN now be the arcane support on a team without being so one dimensional ......

Hopefully they can smooth this out, but for now, I am very amused, and looking forward to where this could go.

Auldwulfe

Jeirno · August 2022

Auldwulfe wrote: »

Honestly, while humorous --- I like the idea of where this is going - albeit the result might need to be tweaked
However, I play a Breton Sorc as my main - double destruction and the Clanfear as my pet to heal -- the flappy is just too big and annoying

I have wanted to have a healing staff on my back bar, and drop the pet since forever --- and now it is actually somewhat viable.
Lightning staff on the front, and healing on the back - I CAN now be the arcane support on a team without being so one dimensional ......

Hopefully they can smooth this out, but for now, I am very amused, and looking forward to where this could go.

Auldwulfe

That sounds exactly like what normal healers would do for the most part.

danno8 · August 2022

The sets, the staff, the buff, it'll all be nerfed, don't worry.

I mean it's the one thing ZoS is really good at. You can certainly have a little faith in that.

Auldwulfe · August 2022

Jeirno wrote: »

Auldwulfe wrote: »

Honestly, while humorous --- I like the idea of where this is going - albeit the result might need to be tweaked
However, I play a Breton Sorc as my main - double destruction and the Clanfear as my pet to heal -- the flappy is just too big and annoying

I have wanted to have a healing staff on my back bar, and drop the pet since forever --- and now it is actually somewhat viable.
Lightning staff on the front, and healing on the back - I CAN now be the arcane support on a team without being so one dimensional ......

Hopefully they can smooth this out, but for now, I am very amused, and looking forward to where this could go.

Auldwulfe

That sounds exactly like what normal healers would do for the most part.

I have tried, and whether it was just me (I suck and using the weaving exploit), or for some other reason, it hadn't worked for me ..... I plan on trying again.
I tend towards RP style play --- my characters are concept based, and then played, as opposed to whatever is meta ... but sometimes you have to put that aside to survive ---
I will see how things play without the sorc pet - which also means I can finally stop my grinding to get one of the pet support armors, and just work in another way.

Auldwulfe

Dojohoda · August 2022

ESO: it temporarily is what it temporarily is. I wish... oh, never mind.

Mr_Stach · August 2022

I'm glad all our DoTs were Sacrificed for more annoying gameplay...... but in the same relative spot.

remosito · August 2022

making empower only boost fully charged would bring down resto and lighting a bit as mid ticks are reduce by 44%. and avoid the MA meta everybody is afraid of, no?

if my math is correct would bring resto down to 370k and lighting to 355k

Arjuna1696 · August 2022

This ridiculousness is pretty strong evidence that there's not enough internal testing being done, right? Like please head back to the drawing board with these combat changes and take your time.

xaraan · August 2022

nope

big fail by zos imo

remosito · August 2022

X_K wrote: »

stevenyaub16_ESO wrote: »

People will use whatever build deals the most damage, so if the heavy attack build is behind even by 5% they won't be used by end-game players.

I and Others have Posted Heavy attack Parses, some over 100k, some close. But not being used by the end game community isn't a bad thing,

if you can hit 100k on a lightning staff heavy attack DK and someone can hit 115k on a LA weave dk, your not gonna get booted from raid unless your dying to blockable mechanics cuz you didn't want to stop your heavy attack channel.

sure would make my tank pugging less of a lottery dps wise...

a few weeks ago I had group dps of 18k. of which i was a third as the tank.. fortunately it was only normal icp..