Envy is a bad feeling especially when you can't get through your own content you make.

We can teach you - how to play the own game you make = if you want, just no need to envy

No need to delete HA from the game - if you think we can not play any other way - we will dissapoint you. Because we can )))



And the only thing is possible to say on last patch notes - is making fun of it. So bad they are. at least some fun with such updates )))

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

This is an attempt to address the one-shot heavy attack builds that were running amok in PVP, those builds with no counterplay absolutely had to be removed. This accomplishes that.

It was at least 2 counterplays. If you try to HA from invis you see that HA is vivible and has sound even if player is invisible.
The second one was as example new mythic - that reduce first incoming damage on 40%

So it is not like itt was not. It only shows that players do not play good enough and do not even know such simple singth )))

But even more funny thing will be if ZOS will make a book.
The story of devs who try to balance the game - they can not normally play.
Book of everyday nerfs of players and fights with skilled players and youtubers

Arcanasx wrote: »

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

This is an attempt to address the one-shot heavy attack builds that were running amok in PVP, those builds with no counterplay absolutely had to be removed. This accomplishes that.

Using this kind of logic, the sorc nerfs were justified because of a few variables that could be abused with it, so they went ahead and chose the nuclear option. What we need are more sledgehammer changes obviously.

I think we just misunderstand developers - we have to make ZOS - to player translation dictionary.

Love = Nerf
Better = Nerf

I already am interested if all positive words do like = nerf, just may be some negative will be some opposite.

Like we hate NB = next patch all damage *2 ))))

I already do not know - so just making fun of it )

how can you defend a build that one shots with a heavy attack? good riddance imo.

ebix_ wrote: »

how can you defend a build that one shots with a heavy attack? good riddance imo.

OK - why do not you say the same to NB that one shots ?

MajorSnakeFox wrote: »

l2p with light attacks. Problem Solved.

L2p with HA - problem solved. Ha players can and do both LA and HA - but you as La player looks like skip HA part. So you need to learn it. Skip is bad you know

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

ebix_ wrote: »

how can you defend a build that one shots with a heavy attack? good riddance imo.

One shot heavy builds were already killed; they gutted Molten Armaments already. Nerfing Empower wasn't needed to kill those builds. Empower is now worthless in PvP, and with it, many many many skills are now worthless in PvP. It was a baffling change that wasn't needed.

The same time - builds that kill one shot on NB with 1 button press - are in game and all seems like "OK" with it.

I only show how all are talking about HA - whyle NB feels perfectly with OP invis and the same oneshots from it.

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

I think it pretty much is self-explanatory. Being able to accomplish much with heavy attacks seems to be fine for accessibility in PvE, but they probably rather not have the ease of just holding down the left mouse button for PvP. They just let cheese, in general, go on too long, and then players think what they are doing is somehow being good. It is not.

One button plars who on La can do as example trifecta in vateshrain shows that to play La the same no skill is needed.

HA player even press more buttons to make his rotation.

So why so disrespectfull to HA players ? I see no reason we have to be nerfed in PVE or PVP. The same we have 1 button shot NBs now, 2 button sorcs in the same builds like HA players use now = savage vervolf + some thing , they stole our builds by the way

And HA player press even more = 3 buttons - so we looked like more skilled players now

It is your lose light attackers ))

Ofcourse it is a joke. But in game with only 12 skills on panel that player can use it is funny to speak about any real skill ))

So for me such topics already are joke, but some players may be think about themselves as about some cool playing "wiwers" ))

The same wings reflect range attacks. A lot of classes can not just no brainly strike targets that can not do range damage and only had melee option ! At least fight it melee too.

Getting ranged oneshot from own strike a lot of builds was not happy. Now all talk about 1 shot ha builds, the same time are ok with oneshot 1 button NBs.

Double standarts, nothing more than that.

Weisstag wrote: »

Oh no you can't get carried by pressing a singular button anymore... how tragic 😱

I know who you are... you are toxic af in game, and now you try to defend your toxic playstyle... guess what, you're done buddy 😂

You will think about it pressing 20 spammables in your skillfull rotation ))

Adding the skillfull LA to it ))

Not to much not toxic ? )) By the way - no one really think about LA players as about some thing skillfull. That times pass long ago. Now when there are players from other MMO - they do not look on you like on some thing "wow effect". It only work on noobs. Exp player just say - I do not like parroting a button to get 20% more DPS.

Can i have better game play ?

UnassumingNoob wrote: »

I’m sorry your favorite playstyle got nerfed. Truly - that sucks I’m sure you put a lot of time and effort into getting it just right. They look like a lot of fun

Just as a counterpoint it was extremely oppressive to play again. The counter play wasn’t much of a counter play. Honestly the HA builds made everyone else pretty miserable.

Good hunting

Do you really think some thing change with out HA builds ?

"HA builds made everyone else pretty miserable."

Pretty miserable - made them not HA builds but their own LOW skill. HA builds only shows how low that skill is, because players can not overplay middle tear builds that is not even optimal.

Any other build will be just the same with no real difference. HA 2.0 builds was optimized to be possible to use on LA and Ha - now you even can see sorcs in savage verwolfs that kills pretty fast. Because of OP spammables not sets. But savage verwolf was not taken based on nothing. It was taken because it was the same unlished set.

So even if ZOS delete HA we can spam chain - and i do not think to see big changes in it in this PTS. The same any other spammable and proc set + some good stats set.

We can heavy spam any other skill - and we will still be HA players )))

I do not really think some thing change for players who already lose to HA builds.

But i am not interested to change gear each update to get all time the same. If I already need change gear i can take top tear sets as example.

If we get nerfs any way we can the same abuse top tier meta sets - that just have better stats.

HA builds are daily sets. No one with sain logick do not even think that ZOS will nerf not OP builds that already are not a best choise - whyle there are really OP builds not nerfed.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Any tips on how to master the heavy attack build? I tried to attack someone from stealth with my destro staff but it's been pretty tough.

Sometimes I don't hold the mouse button down long enough. Other times I can't aim down the target and it fires into the sky

It's a tough playstyle all in all. I think they should be buffing it because the skill ceiling is very high. Anyone that thinks it's easy to heavy attack from stealth for 35k never tried it. I had to put up a buff before it too. People think it's so easy to hit someone who's distracted fighting other people, but sometimes they roll dodge too! Probably using cheat engine or something.

It is not really hard. Not harder than kill NB with 1 button just the same.

Even HA itself was broken ! It do not normally starts some times for a YEAR !!! Just do not work !!! the same bug with a LA was fixed for a month - but for US the same problem ... needs years to be fixed.

Why so much different ? Even bug fixes for HA are nerfed !!!?

And i am not really interested to spend my time on forums, but how much nerfs and bugs like this we need more to get ?
has it some limit ? Or it is limitless = bugs/lugs/nerfs = all for HA players = some love.

We do not want so much "love" - we already do not feel our selves like top optimized builds from the beginning.

Better give all this "love" to META builds. With so much "love" i do not think it will be possible even play it in few years !

Arcanasx wrote: »

CapnCrunchYT wrote: »

People are sick of this crap and that's why its getting nerfed

Yes, that needs to be nerfed, but that shouldn't mean that anything that increases heavy attack damage for PvP should become absolutely useless. This is yet another case of using the sledgehammer against the extreme end of something (which is specifically inferno heavy attack ganking) and destroying everything which is effected by said change that wasn't an issue in the process.

You'd think they would be able to disable the light and heavy attack bonuses from applying while the user is out of combat, in stealth, or invisible, or even make them only apply to melee attacks so there's more risk for the reward as well, but no, they're too lazy and apathetic for reasonable changes. Hence why we keep getting these ridiculous, extreme changes of over buffing then over nerfing.

Do not you try to block attack or use new mithink ? I can make 1 really funny video we both will get a lot of fun after that

But i do not think it really is healthy - but when NB do just the same I do not see that you say that it is a problem - do you ?