Upgrading cards - how?

jle30303 · June 2022

When I look at my cards in the "U" collections menu, it says that some cards can be upgraded to others...

BUT it gives NO clue as to how, why or where.

A couple of these upgrades I have stumbled across by accident while playing. Two of them appear to have Achievements (the ones for Plunder and Oathman). I have no clue what I did to upgrade Toll of Flesh to Toll of Silver - that upgrade appears to have been awarded to me randomly - nor how to get any of the others.

Apparently there are such things as "hints". Where, how and when are these to be found?

Scaletho · June 2022

Never saw any hint about upgrading cards... I'll check it next time I play. It seems an useful feature.

DinoZavr · June 2022

You receive "CLUES" which work similar to the Treasure Maps to upgrade you cards from Victory/Defeat containers.
Not sure about drop rates: i got only one clue from 50+ coffers. Too little to speak about statistics.
You find the location mentioned in the clue, grab blue thingie and Abracdabra! your card is upgraded.
The clue is consumed in the process (just like a Treasure Map).
ESO-Hub already has this covered.

inf.toniceb17_ESO · June 2022

DinoZavr wrote: »

Not sure about drop rates: i got only one clue from 50+ coffers.

it seems to me that you get 1 clue per day max. at least i've been doing ToT daily quests for 3 days now (about 10 games per day) and i was getting exactly one clue each day.

Skvysh · June 2022

inf.toniceb17_ESO wrote: »

DinoZavr wrote: »

Not sure about drop rates: i got only one clue from 50+ coffers.

it seems to me that you get 1 clue per day max. at least i've been doing ToT daily quests for 3 days now (about 10 games per day) and i was getting exactly one clue each day.

I've received 2 clues in one day (up to 4 now). I'd say the droprate's fine, if it's properly curated (i.e. if you roll a clue you already have it just gives you a new one) - there's only 16 clues to obtain.

jle30303 · June 2022

And can you get the upgraded cards without having first got the clue?

Also, how did it happen that one of my cards simply got upgraded without any warning or achievement for the upgrade? (Toll of Flesh, to Toll of Silver). The other two have an Achievement involved.

Lysette · June 2022

I got a hint to investigate 4 locations in the Ali'kir desert for card upgrades - those are 4 clues in text, no map or so.

jle30303 · June 2022

DinoZavr wrote: »

You receive "CLUES" which work similar to the Treasure Maps to upgrade you cards from Victory/Defeat containers.
Not sure about drop rates: i got only one clue from 50+ coffers. Too little to speak about statistics.
You find the location mentioned in the clue, grab blue thingie and Abracdabra! your card is upgraded.
The clue is consumed in the process (just like a Treasure Map).
ESO-Hub already has this covered.

I cannot find the page on ESO-Hub that says "This is how you obtain clues". On https://eso-hub.com/en/tales-of-tribute-card-game, it's got a list of where you have to go in the world for some (not apparently all) upgrades, if you GET the clue, but I cannot find any place where it actually says how and where you get clues. Nor is there any information about the direct upgrades that have happened without need for clues.

The basic page https://eso-hub.com/en/guides/tales-of-tribute-guide does not even contain the word "clue" anywhere. It contains the word "upgrade" several times but no information on how to acquire the upgrades (apart from you can apparently collect them and the decks even if you don't have High Isle at all? But if you don't have High Isle, you can't play the game, so can't acquire any clues that are obtained by playing? So how can you upgrade cards you don't have?)

It says "The hints to upgrade cards can also be found in the Collections menu of the Tales of Tribute card game in ESO." However when I look at that, I see no hints. All it says is that a named card can be upgraded to a named other card. This does not, in my definition, constitute a hint since there is no information for how this can be done, or where to look, or how to acquire a clue that leads to a given hint.

Lysette · June 2022

jle30303 wrote: »

DinoZavr wrote: »

You receive "CLUES" which work similar to the Treasure Maps to upgrade you cards from Victory/Defeat containers.
Not sure about drop rates: i got only one clue from 50+ coffers. Too little to speak about statistics.
You find the location mentioned in the clue, grab blue thingie and Abracdabra! your card is upgraded.
The clue is consumed in the process (just like a Treasure Map).
ESO-Hub already has this covered.

I cannot find the page on ESO-Hub that says "This is how you obtain clues". On https://eso-hub.com/en/tales-of-tribute-card-game, it's got a list of where you have to go in the world for some (not apparently all) upgrades, if you GET the clue, but I cannot find any place where it actually says how and where you get clues. Nor is there any information about the direct upgrades that have happened without need for clues.

The basic page https://eso-hub.com/en/guides/tales-of-tribute-guide does not even contain the word "clue" anywhere. It contains the word "upgrade" several times but no information on how to acquire the upgrades (apart from you can apparently collect them and the decks even if you don't have High Isle at all? But if you don't have High Isle, you can't play the game, so can't acquire any clues that are obtained by playing? So how can you upgrade cards you don't have?)

It says "The hints to upgrade cards can also be found in the Collections menu of the Tales of Tribute card game in ESO." However when I look at that, I see no hints. All it says is that a named card can be upgraded to a named other card. This does not, in my definition, constitute a hint since there is no information for how this can be done, or where to look, or how to acquire a clue that leads to a given hint.

Mine was a blue item - similar to a treasure map - in a winner's reward bag. Once activated you see or read those clues and it is added to your library. The item is still in inventory and can be read anytime again.

jle30303 · June 2022

Well, I followed the directions on ESO-hub, to where one of the card upgrades is allegedly located, though I did not have the clue for it.

It was not there.

Therefore, I conclude that the statement on ESO-hub that "However, even if you don't have the chapter you can still collect Tales of Tributes decks and card upgrades, you just won't be able to use them" must be incorrect, if the following are true:

(1) Can't play without a deck.
(2) Some upgrades only happen from actually playing the game. (See (1).)
(3) For the upgrades in the wild, they can't be found without clues.
(4) And the clues can't be found without playing and winning at the game. (See (1).)

Katheriah · June 2022

So far I only found clues in the reward boxes for victories.

And other upgrades are indeed related to achievements.

Necrotech_Master · June 2022

Katheriah wrote: »

So far I only found clues in the reward boxes for victories.

And other upgrades are indeed related to achievements.

the problem with the achievements is a lot of those seem to be broken, or dont count when playing NPCs, i have not seen ANY progress on pretty much any of the achievements for ToT related to activating patron abilities, getting writs of coin, or playing NPCs in certain locations (the locations only seem to be activating through the daily, but not every zone the daily sends you to is one of the ones on the achievement list)

jle30303 · June 2022

I got a second unexpected upgrade (Kwama Egg Mine to Ebony Mine) when going from level 2 to level 3 - the latter actually gives an achievement, but doesn't specify the upgraded card as part of the achievement. So now I guess that the other upgrade I got - Toll of Flesh becoming Toll of Silver - was from going up from level 1 to level 2?

Erissime · June 2022

You guys, if you scroll down ( until totally down) on the page with the cards collection, you will see the last line says "Upgrade" - my cards are grey in there - but I wager once you get the clues and everything is as it should be - that's where you do the upgrades from? I mean... it's there?

AzuraFan · June 2022

Hopefully if you get an upgrade for a card you don't have yet, it will be applied when you get the card, because I found an upgrade tonight for a card I don't have.

Also, it would be nice to get better feedback when cards are updated.

Foxtrot39 · June 2022

Regarding the clues there are 3 major point in 3 set of 2 lines (alwasy in the same order)

The first tells you in what region you have to go

The second tells you where on the map (always a named icon)

The third and last tell you the landmark you have to keep an eye out for once there

I also got all my clues only from the reward box fro mplaying ToT, the other were auto gained from reaching the next rank

Blutengel · June 2022

AzuraFan wrote: »

Hopefully if you get an upgrade for a card you don't have yet, it will be applied when you get the card, because I found an upgrade tonight for a card I don't have.

Also, it would be nice to get better feedback when cards are updated.

I didn't think you could find upgrades for decks you don't own?

Blutengel · June 2022

Upgrades take forever to find from reward boxes. I've found 3 so far but I've been playing ranked matches for days.

Erissime · June 2022

Upgrades drop from other activities too - I think I got one by doing crafting dailies or some such

milkbox · June 2022

Toll of silver comes from using the crow patron in a game x10. Aside from getting hints from reward coffers, there are other “do a thing in a game x10” card unlocks.

Casdha · June 2022

Clue in a coffer, I've gotten I know over 100 from white to purple around 60 ranked matches and 3 npc matches for each day plus first tournament quest and I've never seen a clue.

I guess the RNG likes me about as much as finding rare stuff in the wild.

Necrotech_Master · June 2022

Casdha wrote: »

Clue in a coffer, I've gotten I know over 100 from white to purple around 60 ranked matches and 3 npc matches for each day plus first tournament quest and I've never seen a clue.

I guess the RNG likes me about as much as finding rare stuff in the wild.

ive managed to get 2 clues from playing only NPC matches (not sure exactly how many though, a minimum of 3, but probably closer to 6-10 matches per day for about a week)

edwardskrod · July 2022

DinoZavr wrote: »

You receive "CLUES" which work similar to the Treasure Maps to upgrade you cards from Victory/Defeat containers.
Not sure about drop rates: i got only one clue from 50+ coffers. Too little to speak about statistics.
You find the location mentioned in the clue, grab blue thingie and Abracdabra! your card is upgraded.
The clue is consumed in the process (just like a Treasure Map).
ESO-Hub already has this covered.

ESO - What's the drop rate in the coffers? I play the daily quest and earn 6 coffers. It's been 20 days or more since I've received a clue.

120 coffers

Skvysh · July 2022

edwardskrod wrote: »

What's the drop rate in the coffers?

Various sources (anecdotal evidence and partially misleading gathered data) puts the rate at somewhere between 1/20 and 1/40.