Observation. Auto-play cards.

Jofish · July 2022

Folks I just see no reason to not have "auto-play cards" turned on. Unless you like to waste peoples' lives by excruciatingly, agonizing over when exactly you need to play that "1 gold card". Totally patient with the choice cards... but guys , give an old man a break. I don't have as much life left as you...

KefkaGestahl · July 2022

To be fair, I think a lot of people believe combo cards have to be played in a certain order. I did for the longest time. I would always have to make sure I played the card with a two combo effects second and then the card with three combo effects third. It was only recently after I climbed all the way to rubedite where I realized combos don't need to be played in any specific order. You can do peck, reinforcements and then toll of flesh and toll's combo will still proc.

Jofish · July 2022

That is so, Kefka, but like I said, once the normal cards are down I have no problem with people taking the time with the "choices". Hehe.

Oddemus · July 2022

I use it.

Hawkeye · July 2022

Jofish wrote: »

Folks I just see no reason to not have "auto-play cards" turned on. Unless you like to waste peoples' lives by excruciatingly, agonizing over when exactly you need to play that "1 gold card". Totally patient with the choice cards... but guys , give an old man a break. I don't have as much life left as you...

I like to play my cards my way. I don't need no auto program to flip them for me. No thanks.

RealLoveBVB · July 2022

You miss one negative point with autoplay.
If you have the opportunity to use 2 or more patrons in a turn and you are about to win with them, then you use a 1 gold card, turn the raven and play all other cards then.

Personofsecrets · July 2022

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

You miss one negative point with autoplay.
If you have the opportunity to use 2 or more patrons in a turn and you are about to win with them, then you use a 1 gold card, turn the raven and play all other cards then.

Luxury exports autoplays too, right?

One could want to not play luxury exports if they have an hlallu oathman in hand that they want to develop to the board, but don't want oathmans ability to pickup a tavern card to be triggered in the instance that everything in the tavern isn't wanted in the deck.

jaws343 · July 2022

Here's the thing, in some cases, pulling cards and waiting to play ones in your hand is beneficial.

For example. Say that the Crow favors my opponent, and I have 3 patrons in my favor and the Tithe card is in the tavern, and I have like 6 gold worth of coins in my hand.

Well, I would play 3 coin, buy the Tithe. Play 1 coin, use the Crow, pay another coin, use the Crow again, and achieve a patron victory.

Autoplay would drop all 6 coin up front, and I would be unable to use the Tithe effectively.

This same can hold true for various other scenarios, where waiting to play a card is more beneficial.

Fennwitty · July 2022

KefkaGestahl wrote: »

To be fair, I think a lot of people believe combo cards have to be played in a certain order. I did for the longest time. I would always have to make sure I played the card with a two combo effects second and then the card with three combo effects third. It was only recently after I climbed all the way to rubedite where I realized combos don't need to be played in any specific order. You can do peck, reinforcements and then toll of flesh and toll's combo will still proc.

Order definitely *CAN* matter especially with abilities that send cards to the top of your draw pile, or remove them from your draw pile.

If one of your combos will draw a card, you will want to trigger that after you take care of ensuring the top card is the one you want.

Jofish · July 2022

jaws343 wrote: »

Here's the thing, in some cases, pulling cards and waiting to play ones in your hand is beneficial.

For example. Say that the Crow favors my opponent, and I have 3 patrons in my favor and the Tithe card is in the tavern, and I have like 6 gold worth of coins in my hand.

Well, I would play 3 coin, buy the Tithe. Play 1 coin, use the Crow, pay another coin, use the Crow again, and achieve a patron victory.

Autoplay would drop all 6 coin up front, and I would be unable to use the Tithe effectively.

This same can hold true for various other scenarios, where waiting to play a card is more beneficial.

Ah, thanks! Very well explained... O' and thanks for the tip...

KefkaGestahl · July 2022

Fennwitty wrote: »

Order definitely *CAN* matter especially with abilities that send cards to the top of your draw pile, or remove them from your draw pile.

Ok? I said it doesn't matter for combos. I don't know why you gave this lecture but thanks, Professor.

Tuonra2 · July 2022

Autoplay cards would have cost me several games where I needed to use crow patron for less than all my gold that turn.

redspecter23 · July 2022

Autoplay may be faster, but there are situations where it will stop certain plays that require you to play coin generating cards staggered. You might want to flip that crow for just a single coin then use your other coin to purchase other cards or even flip multiple patrons that turn. Using autoplay to turn off the option for more advanced plays not only turns them off for you but your opponent will be aware of it once they see you using autoplay. That's probably a much greater concern at higher levels of play but it can definitely be a factor in a non zero amount of games.

Naomi_K · July 2022

KefkaGestahl wrote: »

Fennwitty wrote: »

Order definitely *CAN* matter especially with abilities that send cards to the top of your draw pile, or remove them from your draw pile.

Ok? I said it doesn't matter for combos. I don't know why you gave this lecture but thanks, Professor.

It doesn't matter what order you play the cards to get all combos. But the order does matter when you want to choose when to trigger a combo, when you want to complete other moves in-between combos.

Say you have Toll of Silver and Peck in your hand and you want to buy a card from the tavern and then send it to the top of your deck. If you play some basic gold cards and Peck you might not have enough gold to buy the card. If you play Toll of Silver first you may be able to buy the card from the tavern. Then you use a Hunding card or the Pelin patron to move the card you just bought to the top of your deck. Play the Peck card to trigger the combo with Toll of Silver and draw the card you just bought.

Moves like this can make a big difference in the outcome of the game. Not using autoplay gives you more options and more control over how you play your cards.

SilverBride · July 2022

There is no way I'd ever use autoplay. I want to control what I play and when.

Shanee · July 2022

I use auto-play, just for the sheer laziness of not wanting to place them. It's nice that it doesn't auto-play all the cards, combo cards won't get auto-played and you have to play them yourself, allowing you to choose which order you play them so you can enhance the combo by playing it in the right order.

I tab out a lot during games, so when I just listen out for the sound of my cards being played and tab back in.

Naomi_K · July 2022

Shanee wrote: »

I use auto-play, just for the sheer laziness of not wanting to place them. It's nice that it doesn't auto-play all the cards, combo cards won't get auto-played and you have to play them yourself, allowing you to choose which order you play them so you can enhance the combo by playing it in the right order.

I tab out a lot during games, so when I just listen out for the sound of my cards being played and tab back in.

It doesn't allow you to choose the order. A card like Peck will be autoplayed. Peck itself doesn't have any combos but it will trigger the combos on other cards. And there might be situations where you want to play the card with the combo first but trigger the combo later.

Shanee · July 2022

Naomi_K wrote: »

Shanee wrote: »

I use auto-play, just for the sheer laziness of not wanting to place them. It's nice that it doesn't auto-play all the cards, combo cards won't get auto-played and you have to play them yourself, allowing you to choose which order you play them so you can enhance the combo by playing it in the right order.

I tab out a lot during games, so when I just listen out for the sound of my cards being played and tab back in.

It doesn't allow you to choose the order. A card like Peck will be autoplayed. Peck itself doesn't have any combos but it will trigger the combos on other cards. And there might be situations where you want to play the card with the combo first but trigger the combo later.

Yes, I was more so referring to combo cards - The cards with actual combo effects on them. You have a point with Peck, but I wouldn't call Peck itself a combo card, although it can be used to trigger other cards with combos on them.

I haven't run into a situation so far, luckily, where auto-playing Peck set off a combo which then resulted in me losing because I should of combo'd differently. Though I don't really play builds using toss so auto-triggering draw combos are fine for me.

Vaoh · July 2022

Auto-play is good for most people and situations. However you can miss out on a lot of subtle opportunities by using it.

For example, if have a Duke of Crows combo in your hand which would allow you to draw two more cards, and a Psijic card which allows you to look into your next four cards. Auto play might cause you to play all of your cards (getting random draws) instead of picking out guaranteed good cards beforehand.