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Any game with Saint/Crow become a 50/50 95% luck RNGfeast.
Eliran
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Its a fact.
So do everyone a favor and don't choose them when you see your enemy haven't, the game is 100 times more fun without them.
And inbefore the "but my enemy will choose them then!", ok then who cares? its even better for you as you get to choose the other 2 if anyway you wanted to play them, logic.
So do everyone a favor and don't choose them when you see your enemy haven't, the game is 100 times more fun without them.
And inbefore the "but my enemy will choose them then!", ok then who cares? its even better for you as you get to choose the other 2 if anyway you wanted to play them, logic.
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kmfdm✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.Edited by kmfdm on 15 June 2022 19:153 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i prefer using a hunding/crow strategy, but if pelin cards are there to throw in the mix, it certainly helps
pelin cards are powerful for generating power, but terrible for generating coin
crow is good for generating coin, and then power with combos, which stacks well with hunding (most cards can give you either power OR let you select tavern cards for free, which can help feed the crow combos)plays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
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feel free to stop by and use the facilities2 -
EmperorRemanIV✭✭✭The Duke of Crows must be nerfed. Each deck has a focus in one thing. Hlaalu in gold, Pelin in power, Psijic Master in the cooldown pile and so on. The duke focus on everything! Power, coin, more cards. More than once there were matches where the opponent made so much combos that I could do nothing to win cause he had 30 prestige more than me!His Imperial Majesty, Reman IV, Emperor of Cyrodiil, Sunspire Saint, Guardian of the Reach, Elsweyr and Galen, Shield of the North, Ophidian Overlord of Craglorn, Defender of Rockgrove, Count of Cyrodiil, Baron/Thane of Solitude, Falkreath and Morthal, Lord of the Daggerfall Covenant, Knight of the Silver Rose, Knight of the Silver Dawn, Knight-Errant of High Isle and Chevalier of Moongrave Fane.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EmperorRemanIV wrote: »The Duke of Crows must be nerfed. Each deck has a focus in one thing. Hlaalu in gold, Pelin in power, Psijic Master in the cooldown pile and so on. The duke focus on everything! Power, coin, more cards. More than once there were matches where the opponent made so much combos that I could do nothing to win cause he had 30 prestige more than me!
If you think it is that strong, then play it like him - but you don't want to, do you?-. because it is a risk to play a duke strategy and you don't want to take risks - but instead demand that the duke will be nerfed. Isn't it like that?3 -
Eliran✭✭✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.
Well I am top rank EU and I tell you its broken and require no skill beyond like even if you know how to adapt.
Beat that.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.
Enlighten us.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.1 -
kmfdm✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.
Well I am top rank EU and I tell you its broken and require no skill beyond like even if you know how to adapt.
Beat that.
Im actually #1 for a week (Querelle) now on the EU realm. And I never lose against Duke and Pelin.
Yeh, I think Ive beaten that...Edited by kmfdm on 16 June 2022 05:522 -
Eliran✭✭✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.
Well I am top rank EU and I tell you its broken and require no skill beyond like even if you know how to adapt.
Beat that.
Im actually #1 for a week (Querelle) now on the EU realm. And I never lose against Duke and Pelin.
Yeh, I think Ive beaten that...
I wanted to type "top 3 rank" donno where the 3 went away.
Of course you've beaten it, its a 50 50 luck chance.
To say you never lose? that's ***, the clock is ticking for you.
I just lost a game to some Saint MEME'er who got 2 rallys in 2 turns, boom lost 600 points.
Honestly after I get the 100 ranked games, I am not even gonna bother queue into this jokefeast game in ranked.2 -
kmfdm✭✭✭
You are just venting now. I honestly have not lost against a Duke player since day 2 of the DLC. And Rally is really slow, sure its nice to have it, but its not the end-point of any of my strategies. I wouldnt put Rally into tier A card list. Conquest, Midnight Raid, Shehai Summoning, or Armory would be there much more likely.
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Eliran✭✭✭✭✭
You are just venting now. I honestly have not lost against a Duke player since day 2 of the DLC. And Rally is really slow, sure its nice to have it, but its not the end-point of any of my strategies. I wouldnt put Rally into tier A card list. Conquest, Midnight Raid, Shehai Summoning, or Armory would be there much more likely.
Bro cut the BS, we both know I am right.
Its only a matter of time before you run out of luck and lose your first spot like I just did, the leaderboard is a joke and so is this game.
Saint = 50 50 RNG game once both players know the cards, no argue no nothing.
Say you "never loss to" is immature and prove how inexperienced you are, even if top of the leaderboard right now, there is no skill involved when one person start with armory and other get jacksh*t on the first turn.
Rally? anyone with a brain would win under 6 turns from the moment they got it, just stop buying cards and try to eliminate as many cards as you have = ez win.0 -
kmfdm✭✭✭Sure but whats with the passive aggressive attitude? Armory or midnight raid or even conquest on turn 1 is a massive advantage thats for sure - if the remaining cards on the table cost 6+ when, it takes the opponent a few turns to rotate the market or get something good. It does not happen often, but yeh, there is some luck involved, this is a card game afterall.0
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Eliran✭✭✭✭✭Sure but whats with the passive aggressive attitude? Armory or midnight raid or even conquest on turn 1 is a massive advantage thats for sure - if the remaining cards on the table cost 6+ when, it takes the opponent a few turns to rotate the market or get something good. It does not happen often, but yeh, there is some luck involved, this is a card game afterall.
Bro you lost me when you said Rally is not tier A, spare me.0 -
kmfdm✭✭✭Sure but whats with the passive aggressive attitude? Armory or midnight raid or even conquest on turn 1 is a massive advantage thats for sure - if the remaining cards on the table cost 6+ when, it takes the opponent a few turns to rotate the market or get something good. It does not happen often, but yeh, there is some luck involved, this is a card game afterall.
Bro you lost me when you said Rally is not tier A, spare me.
Have you even played against Orgnum? By the time you get rally, you are already at least 30 prestige behind. All cards in this game are situational, rally is good in some matchups, but not so much in others. Except those three I mentioned above that are pretty good in almost all matchups. Thats why I consider them tier-A.2 -
Casdha✭✭✭✭✭
✭Apparently a lot of folks have yet to understand why all but one patron can be used again after you have gained their favor.Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%1 -
Eliran✭✭✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.
Well I am top rank EU and I tell you its broken and require no skill beyond like even if you know how to adapt.
Beat that.
Im actually #1 for a week (Querelle) now on the EU realm. And I never lose against Duke and Pelin.
Yeh, I think Ive beaten that...
"And I never lose against Duke and Pelin.".
Lol your luck ran out champ.0 -
Eliran✭✭✭✭✭It is only those players who wait for their perfect combo and can't adopt to the available cards, who think Duke and Pelin are overpowered and that this game is RND heavy. In fact they are both so easy to counter if you play it right.
Well I am top rank EU and I tell you its broken and require no skill beyond like even if you know how to adapt.
Beat that.
Im actually #1 for a week (Querelle) now on the EU realm. And I never lose against Duke and Pelin.
Yeh, I think Ive beaten that...
"And I never lose against Duke and Pelin.".
Lol your luck ran out champ.
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kmfdm✭✭✭Oh god, you're so pathetic.
But sure, a few bad losses in a row, these werent against Duke tho. I was having fun with Rahjin slog strategy, and I've made a lot of mistakes tonight, Im surely not blaming my luck or the game itself.Edited by kmfdm on 16 June 2022 17:042 -
kmfdm✭✭✭
I never said that, it is you in fact who one week after release blame the game for being too RND-heavy.1 -
Rouz✭✭✭The whole game is RNG. It's a card game. The only thing I think they need to do is switch out one card from the tavern if nobody pulls for 2 turns in a row. A strat I use and others have used is that you just refuse to pull anything once you get a small advantage, then just spam orgnum or rajhin. Every offensive focused deck has "good" cards that the game is essentilaly a race to get those. And then once you get them, you just deny and remove anything that can challenge you from the board.
The RNG comes in when its whomever gets those good cards first. I've found that once one side gets those "good" cards of the offensive deck, you've got about 3-4 rounds before the advantage becomes too deep that you can't counter it. And if you do manage to get a hand, then it becomes who gets the unlucky hand that decides the game. And yeah yeah there are "counters" to this problem. Psijic to counter taverns or red eagle to get rid of junk default cards. But even then being able to employ those quickly enough to counter a lead doesn't always work. I've been in matches where I get an early rally, but the enemy got really luck orgnum draws and ends up winning by 3 points after spamming patron for 5 minutes straight I've been in matches where they get an early rally and every card in the tavern is a contract card that serves no use or i pull it so i can have some kind of chance to get something good and it gets replaced by a good card I can't afford, so the enemy buys it and further increases its lead.
I think it comes down to complexity. Pelin and Crow are very very very easy to use. Just a few cards (or even one) is enough to swing the chance of winning drastically to one side. And if the other side has good luck, they can come back. Like if you were to ask me which of the offense cards are easiest to use. I'd say Pelin > Crow > Orgnum || Ansei. I do think that crow/Pelin need a slight nerf to bring down their single card impacts. There's so many games where I've won or lost thanks to an early rally, early armory, or got lucky with a few easy purchase of a crow combo early game.
But I think a good starting point is the tavern issue. They need to rotate one card if neither player pulls in favor of the first player that doesn't pull.2 -
Youmee✭✭✭I think we all should be more positive towards the wonderful tavern game we all seem to be fond of. Yes it needs some polishing and i am sure ZOS is aware and will do some nerfs and boosts.
If our friend
could share some strategies against Duke and Pelin with us, I am sure it will be to our mutual benefit in making matches more exciting!,
It is not about some leaderboards (come on, do you really need more poisons and Bravils Best risotto meals?) It is about fun playing with intelligent players!
Love you all )
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