By 2 rings and a 1 piece of jewelry, I am assuming you mean two rings and a necklace? You have 3 jewelry slots total. That plus a 2 handed weapon (Bow, 2H, Staff), which count as two pieces, you will have a total of 5 items for that set. It never makes sense to wear more than 5 pieces of the same set, the bonusses dont stack or add beyond the 5th piece.

Very common way to build historically is a 5/5/2. One five piece is your weapons and jewelry, one five piece is your chest, pants, gloves, boots, belt, and the two piece is a head and shoulder monster set (from vet dungeons).

*Jewelry and armor pieces all count as one, so nothing says your jewelry has to match your weapon, you could run a 2H, a necklace, boots, belt, gloves, and get to the same thing, but when juggling and mix and matching sets, its a nice way to build from an organization standpoint.

A more modern way to build since Mythic Items were released is to run a 5/5/1/1 build. 5 piece set on front bar and jewelry, 5 piece set on body, one piece monster set (just for the one line bonus), and one mythic item. Depending on the mythic in question, you sometimes have to do a bit of juggling. If its a ring for example, you would wear piece of your weapon/jewelry set on either your head or shoulder. If its something like the Kilt, you can wear one of your normal body sets on shoulder instead of the pants.

Zama666 wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

Ok, I might need this dumbed down further

For Example, let's say I wear 5 pieces of Twice Born Star for armor. Chest, Girdle, Sabatons, Greaves and Gauntlets (5)

And also wore

Hundings Rage: Helmet, Shoulder, two rings and Jewelry (5)

Would I get the benefits of BOTH Sets at once

ie
TBS

ArmorSet bonus
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(5 items) You can have two Mundus Stone boons at the same
+
Hundings
(2 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(5 items) Adds 300 Weapon and Spell Damage

Am I going to get all those bonuses?

ie. I will have to mundus stones working and 300 to weapon damage (plus all the items bonuses)?

Did that question make sense?

Thanks,

Z

Yep! You can combine a large different combo of sets. That and your skill bars x2, are the bedrock of any build you might make. Early on, I would start with 2 five piece sets. Its a simple way to build, and the vast majority of sets are 5 piece sets.

There are "monster sets" which are head and shoulders that come from vet dungeons and the undaunted chests. These are 2 piece sets and always your head and shoulders, very common in a lot of builds. There are mythic items, these require you to do antiquities to construct them, but they are very powerful 1 piece bonuses. There are also Arena weapons, they come from DSA, MA, VH, and also AS (not technically an arena), these are weapons that have 2 piece bonuses, so easy to par with 2 5 pieces sets on body and jewelry like you listed. There are a handful of 3 piece sets, most are confined to jewelry and or weapons. Point is, lots of different combinations on a way to build.

I wouldnt get too caught up in your gear at first, as long as it passes the smell test. With the sets you lists, I would probably run the Thief and Shadow mundus, wear mostly medium armor, and focus on a stamina weapon, 2H, DW, or Bow. TBS used to be really strong, but the reality is, its not as powerful as it used to be. Hundings is sort of the classic baseline stamina 5 piece DPS set (the magic counterpart is Julianos). Perfectly viable, but there is better stuff out there. Nothing wrong with that setup to get your feet wet.

2 suggestions. One might be to make your Hundings as Jewelry and Weapons to free up your head and shoulders. There are some fairly easy to acquire 2 piece monster sets. Another might be to do what you propose and get Agility weapons (they would give you another line of stamina) and then perhaps focus on getting some arena weapons to replace them at some point. Your first gear combo certainly wont be your last, so dont over think it. If you are under CP160, dont wast a single gold piece or one minute farming gear. Get to 160 first.

Zama666 wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw How did I not know this...?

<multiple face palms...>

Thank you!

Admittedly, the game really doesn't come out and tell you this very well.

If you are looking for online resources, a few of my favorites, certainly not an exhaustive list (google the name and ESO and you will find them):

Alcast: Probably the most popular in ESO. Basic guides on really any class and setup for just about any type of content, lots of good explanations. I wont call his builds meta, but they are in the ballpark. They are presented as easy guides for the masses. Also has good guides on things like antiquities (mythic items), leveling certain skill lines like Psijic, etc.

SkinnyCheeks: Very thorough guide videos on Meta DPS builds for PVE. While I would not start here, they are worth a peek to just see what a combat rotations look like at end game. He wont have every class and spec, but each patch he seems to hit the best handful.

MalcolM: Really like his PVP guides, both the videos and written guides. They primarily cater to open world 1vX builds, and may be on the harder end to play, but again, they are a really good baseline if you want to give Cyrodiil a go.

With any guide, dont just copy it and expect it to be good. ESO combat takes a lot of skill and experience, you wont master it overnight. Use the builds as a baseline and try to understand what each skill or gear piece is trying to do and adjust to your needs.

Zama666 wrote: »

@Oreyn_Bearclaw

Wow! I am going to try mixing up Briarheart for crit and TBS (for the dual mundus).

Briarheart rings and jewelry can only be found from drops, TBS can be crafted...

Question: About Hundings "Hundings is sort of the classic baseline stamina 5 piece DPS set (the magic counterpart is Julianos). Perfectly viable, but there is better stuff out there. Nothing wrong with that setup to get your feet wet."
What is better for stam than Hundings - especially when trying to run two 5 pieces?

I think I got this..and yes, I am 160. Just disturbed...I did not know this.

Tankz!

Is DPS in PVE your goal? Relequen is probably the best single target DPS set there is. People wear it on the body because if you run an arena weapon on one of your bars (very common), you lose the stacks when you swap. It comes from trials, so dont kill yourself to get it if you dont have it, but its something to work towards. For your weapon and jewelry, Either Kinras or Advancing Yokeda. Kinras comes from Blake Drake Villa and AY comes from HRC (trial). Both of those require you to farm the weapon, but stickerbook makes that easier than it used to be.

That said, dont get caught up in what is actually best. There are so many sets that are within 1-2% in terms of damage. Also, since the recent hybridization of stats, The line between magic and stam is very blurry. My Necro hits about 120k DPS on the trial dummy with AY Daggers front bar, Relequen body, the Kilt mythic, and back bar VMA 2 hand greatsword. Very common "meta" build. He stacks into stamina, but also stacks into spell damage and runs spell power potions with magic regen. So is he really a stam toon? Debatable.

Hundings and Briarheart is a great combo for Stam DPS to get started. Good damage, passive heals. If you are new to DPS, an experienced DPS would run circles around you in that setup, even if you could pick whatever you wanted. Nothing personal, point is, skill rotation is so much more important the splitting hairs on your gear.

A set I would definitely recommend starting to Farm is Tzogvins. It gives minor force, and makes a great front bar DPS set for both magic and stam. Maybe not the best for raw damage, but I wear it a LOT. You want weapons and jewelry. Can be farmed on normal pretty quickly (Frostvault).

Another great utility set for stam is Vicious Ophidian (false god is the magic counterpart). Its a trial set, but you can farm on normal and should be able to get body pieces pretty fast. Most people will give them to you. Most of my DPS alts that I just use for farming are in Tzogvin/False god for magic and Tzogvin/VO for stam. With those sets, I am getting minor slayer, minor force, a fair amount of crit, cost reduction, and a speed boost on enemy kill. Throw in any one of a handful of mythics, and the utility is off the charts. Its so hard to beat unless you are really going for speed in trials.

Edit: While I am at it, if you do have access to antiquities, there are 4 mythics I think are worth prioritizing.

1. Ring of the Wild Hunt. So much speed. If the combat is not difficult, this is the best item in the game for overland questing, mat farming, doing writs, blitzing normal dungeons, etc. If someone deleted my account tomorrow, this is the first item I farm. All 18 of my toons have one.

2. Ring of Pale Order. Heals you as you do damage. Great for any solo play. You dont really need it in overland unless soloing World Bosses, but it really makes your life easy in arenas, XP farming, or if you are doing 4 man without a healer (or maybe the healer just stinks). Half my toons are hot keyed to swap between Pail Order and Wild Hunt.

3. Death Dealer Fete. This increases all 3 of your stats the longer you are in combat, so it boosts both damage and survivability. Great in four man content and certain trail fights you cant use the kilt. First three are all rings, so easy to swap between them. At least 3-4 of my toons have all 3 for easy access.

4. Harpooners Wading Kilt. Best for pure single target DPS. Useful in trials and beating up target dummies. Only prioritize this if you are applying to guilds with DPS requirements or pushing score in trials.