if there is nothing in the API to allow the addon to execute the "use" function, then that makes sense why its not there

personally still very annoying if you can basically automate crafting writs, but not fishing, and hopefully something that they could add at some point

i enjoy crafting more than i do fishing

Meredy wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

if there is nothing in the API to allow the addon to execute the "use" function, then that makes sense why its not there

personally still very annoying if you can basically automate crafting writs, but not fishing, and hopefully something that they could add at some point

i enjoy crafting more than i do fishing

Fishing on it's own is a very basic minigame and is seen as an occupation by the developers of the game (Matt Firor named fishing evidentely when asked about the amount of things one can do in this game), so naturally it's not meant to be an automated thing like Crafting Dailies you do every day.

i personally dont even do normal crafting writs everyday because i dislike them even though there are addons that help with it, i find no enjoyment out of it (i dont mind doing master writs though)

fishing to me is a nice relaxing thing, but i hate the little minigame, i still see fishing more as "harvesting a material node" than actually fishing and my expectation for a material node is i hit E once to harvest, then i loot when it is done the animation

Baertram wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote:

would it be possible to have a fishing addon that just automatically reeled in?

Even the idea says "I like botting"

If you want to get your account banned for such a simple thing, you can use external software like fishing bots to do that for you.
But I doubt you'd like this to happen

btw: Crafting writs are not totally automated. You need to walk to the turn in and interact with the NPC.
With the given API it was possible to circumvent a lot of the manual topics of the writs, yes. But I doubt this was ever intended by ZOs and for me this also is a bit against the TOS. Well, I guess they were not clear enough, and provided the API, so this is allowed.
But using external software or tools to circumvent non-given API would be clearly against.

i personally dont see the act of reeling in the fish being automated as "botting", i see it as eliminating a mind-numbing extra step on a harvesting node (imagine having to do a rune node harvest and having to hit E at the right time or you "fail" the harvest), that is how i see fishing, nothing more than material node harvesting but with an extra nonsense step

fishing is NOT a minigame to me, antiquities is a minigame, the future incoming card game is a minigame, but not fishing

for the crafting writs i was mainly talking about the actual "work" being automated, there is no way turning in would be automated without "botting" software as you put it lol

but this dumb fishing "minigame" is why i dont fish much as is (i got master angler and then basically dont do it at all unless they add something to it like antiquity leads)

how do current fishing addons work then, where they "detect" when to reel in to give you an alert? i havent really looked at them in depth as to how they work, but they definitely work pretty good for alerting you to when you need to perform the reel in action

thats why i was thinking "oh well if we are already detecting when we need to reel in, why doesnt this just also activate the interaction key too instead of telling me to hit the interaction key?"

based on your explanation though, it sounds like the reel-in detection is more of an arbitrary timer to fall within the range of needing to reel in if there is nothing that actually reports when the reel-in needs to happen

this is the thing that always puzzled me when i asked about it in game since it was never explained, just a "it cant be done" and then i see the fishing addons correctly announcing when i need to reel in, but not executing the interact function to just reel in itself

from a user perspective this to me seemed like it should have just called the interact function instead of throwing the visual/audio alert to reel in manually, but if it receives no feedback to alert when the reel in has to happen and its just a simple arbitrary timer to wait on that makes a lot more sense (and another reason i hate fishing because this timer is way too long)

votan73 wrote: »

The addons detecting it with help of "loosing a bait from inventory".

The interact function is private. Which means, it can not be called by an addon. This has to happen from built-in. So you have to go the original designed way. => Pressing a button.

i wish they had better support from fishing addons then lol, i am glad that they work as well as they do (thank you votan!), but it seems really janky that the only way we can detect when to reel in is when the actual bait unit is "used up" lol

i can definitely see the original cast being an interaction with the game world, but its an action i dont mind taking

i do hope they can improve fishing at some point, at least for those of us who get no enjoyment out of the "mini game" that it forces upon us

honestly it kind of annoys me that EVERY game that has fishing, feels like they need fishing to be some kind of minigame, it would be so much more relaxing to just cast and let it sit and auto reel in when you get a fish

right now i have votans fisherman to do a nice "ding" when to reel in, but thats still not enough sometimes if im completely paying attention to something else because the fishing is so slow (like i cant really play another game on my 2nd computer and still always make the reel in, but i can usually at least watch tv/movie)