Rolling heavy attack NB before it's nerfed 😇
https://youtu.be/UKObrx-4m9c-
Kwoungâœâœâœâœâœ
âœâœNice video, but the player is obviously skilled and there was a heck of a lot more than heavy attacks going on there.0 -
Dojohodaâœâœâœâœâœ
âœâœâœExcellent
Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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divnyiâœâœâœâœâœ
âœthere was a heck of a lot more than heavy attacks going on there.
Well I was saying this quite a lot before, but sometimes people lock into one class when they see some sets.
Like, how ppl think heavy attack is DK because of one buff, or like when bash is necro because of ult.
What people forget is that sometimes other classes skills might cover weak points better, like how sorc adds burst that heavy attack lacks, or like how much easier to line up bashes on NB (yeah, bashblade is sleeper OP, next patch is gonna buff him even higher).Edited by divnyi on 4 February 2022 13:550 -
divnyiâœâœâœâœâœ
âœThey need to make MMR account wide.
This is my first char - unless something weird happened, it should have decent MMR already.0 -
Metemsycosisâœâœâœâœi love the meteor zaan comboTerethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
A Dark-Adapted Eye, Imperial Necromancer
sanguinare vampiris
https://m.twitch.tv/amcrenshaw/profile0 -
divnyiâœâœâœâœâœ
âœMetemsycosis wrote: »i love the meteor zaan combo
Zaan combos with lightning staff and DW actually. It's 33% chance proc per light/heavy attack hit. So ~55% to apply from initial DW heavy and almost guaranteed during lightning staff burn, because that's 4 ticks. Forces opponent to flee from range but not via dodge, because dodge is ignored by lightning heavy.0 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESOâœâœâœâœâœthere was a heck of a lot more than heavy attacks going on there.
Well I was saying this quite a lot before, but sometimes people lock into one class when they see some sets.
Like, how ppl think heavy attack is DK because of one buff, or like when bash is necro because of ult.
What people forget is that sometimes other classes skills might cover weak points better, like how sorc adds burst that heavy attack lacks, or like how much easier to line up bashes on NB (yeah, bashblade is sleeper OP, next patch is gonna buff him even higher).
Can I gank with bashes? Thats sounds so stupid, but I know bash is op next patch so it sounds possible. Long ago I used to play bow + 1h&shield nb. Wasn't that good back then and pretty sure weaving in bash to my attacks gave me carpal tunnel.I wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.0 -
divnyiâœâœâœâœâœ
âœxxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »there was a heck of a lot more than heavy attacks going on there.
Well I was saying this quite a lot before, but sometimes people lock into one class when they see some sets.
Like, how ppl think heavy attack is DK because of one buff, or like when bash is necro because of ult.
What people forget is that sometimes other classes skills might cover weak points better, like how sorc adds burst that heavy attack lacks, or like how much easier to line up bashes on NB (yeah, bashblade is sleeper OP, next patch is gonna buff him even higher).
Can I gank with bashes? Thats sounds so stupid, but I know bash is op next patch so it sounds possible. Long ago I used to play bow + 1h&shield nb. Wasn't that good back then and pretty sure weaving in bash to my attacks gave me carpal tunnel.
It's mechanically very demanding, but yes, you can gank with bashes. I go with backbar masters DW heavy + rending (snare is important to land bashes) into barswap and bashes (first bash comes with burst due to set), all in single GCD. Problem that now you don't have too many skills to follow-up. Follow-up incap would probably be dodged at this point, and normal skills without decent damage and heavy armor won't do much - I roll NB execute on shield bar, but that's if opponent actually gets below 25%.
And also it's not straightforward to execute because using bashes breaks your normal GCD metronome.. as you have 0.3s cooldown for skills after bash, your skills will have 1.2s GCD instead of 1.0s, unless you learn to doublebash and wait 0.4s for skill. But when skill that scales with bash damage comes, I will definitely master that - as now it will definitely increase damage by a lot.
Other than that it's Vigor and Healthy Offering, which I click on-demand without breaking my offensive. In the pressure game I can just mash bash and light attacks together, as light attacks come faster without skills inbetween.
That's way better in noCP than in CP tho. I was amazed how bad it does there actually, tried it yesterday in cyro and was disappointed. Not that you die a lot unless detection pots and outnumbered - blockheals work great, but it lacks raw burst power, and lacks.. maybe offensive star for bashes? Idk.1 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESOâœâœâœâœâœ
That was pretty sick how you out traded a spamplar with a bash build. Still trying to find something to switch to next patch since my entire build is nerfed next patch. Molag kena doesn't work outside combat, doylemish can't proc from dual wield heavy, calurions is added to the 1 second proc cd. Feels like I have been ganking a zenimax employee and he is taking his frustration out on me by giving me the FULL nerf.
What I want is not necessarily a gank build, but a build that can kill all these dang magplars and magdks. What I have mostly been doing this current patch is unloading my full burst into them while they tower hump and its too much for them to handle, but obviously thats getting giga nerfed. Not really ganking(ok I do that alot too), sorta playing the role of the tank buster in group play. You play around with a ton of weird builds, have you ever got knight slayer to work good? I really want to continue to play a tank buster role for my pact and I just don't know how to do it next patch.
I wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.0 -
divnyiâœâœâœâœâœ
âœxxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »have you ever got knight slayer to work good?
Nope. Best I've seen is warden tank used it on me in the cost-less (for him) pressure with ice staff, as it has fastest heavy. Wasn't *that* good, but I didn't want to be close to him either.
It won't kill those magDKs in current meta, they are strong because of coagulating blood healing coupled with rapid regen. Whatever HP% you take from them, they will replenish. So you either need to outsustain their heals by unloading big damage CONSTANTLY, REPEATEDLY for like 10-20 seconds straight (can have cloak in-out windows btw, it doesn't matter if they heal to 100%, you attack resources), or find opportunity to burst them down when they are already damaged.
Both variants aren't very good for solo - pressure build will suffer if their allies show up, and finishing burst needs someone to fight already. My BG background shows here ^^'1 -
katorgaâœâœâœâœâœ
âœâœxxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »have you ever got knight slayer to work good?
Nope. Best I've seen is warden tank used it on me in the cost-less (for him) pressure with ice staff, as it has fastest heavy. Wasn't *that* good, but I didn't want to be close to him either.
It won't kill those magDKs in current meta, they are strong because of coagulating blood healing coupled with rapid regen. Whatever HP% you take from them, they will replenish. So you either need to outsustain their heals by unloading big damage CONSTANTLY, REPEATEDLY for like 10-20 seconds straight (can have cloak in-out windows btw, it doesn't matter if they heal to 100%, you attack resources), or find opportunity to burst them down when they are already damaged.
Both variants aren't very good for solo - pressure build will suffer if their allies show up, and finishing burst needs someone to fight already. My BG background shows here ^^'
It will be interesting next patch where the only limit on healing is the number of bar slots / GCDs you want to devote to it. A DK, with block and the ability to passively sustain it, will potentially have multiple burning embers, vigor, rapid regen, cauterize all passively ticking away.
Other classes can try to pull it off, but DK will be the only class that can stack multiple copies of its own hot. So in theory a solo DK will have the healing potential of a group stacking instances of radiating regen, and also be able to dedicate fewer bar slots to healing because it can use one hot skill multiple times.
Loved the expirimental builds video btw, lots of good ideas to think about.
Edited by katorga on 11 February 2022 20:001 -
gariondaveyâœâœâœâœâœ
âœâœxxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »
That was pretty sick how you out traded a spamplar with a bash build. Still trying to find something to switch to next patch since my entire build is nerfed next patch. Molag kena doesn't work outside combat, doylemish can't proc from dual wield heavy, calurions is added to the 1 second proc cd. Feels like I have been ganking a zenimax employee and he is taking his frustration out on me by giving me the FULL nerf.
What I want is not necessarily a gank build, but a build that can kill all these dang magplars and magdks. What I have mostly been doing this current patch is unloading my full burst into them while they tower hump and its too much for them to handle, but obviously thats getting giga nerfed. Not really ganking(ok I do that alot too), sorta playing the role of the tank buster in group play. You play around with a ton of weird builds, have you ever got knight slayer to work good? I really want to continue to play a tank buster role for my pact and I just don't know how to do it next patch.
Source on caluurian?PC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden0 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESOâœâœâœâœâœgariondavey wrote: »xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »
That was pretty sick how you out traded a spamplar with a bash build. Still trying to find something to switch to next patch since my entire build is nerfed next patch. Molag kena doesn't work outside combat, doylemish can't proc from dual wield heavy, calurions is added to the 1 second proc cd. Feels like I have been ganking a zenimax employee and he is taking his frustration out on me by giving me the FULL nerf.
What I want is not necessarily a gank build, but a build that can kill all these dang magplars and magdks. What I have mostly been doing this current patch is unloading my full burst into them while they tower hump and its too much for them to handle, but obviously thats getting giga nerfed. Not really ganking(ok I do that alot too), sorta playing the role of the tank buster in group play. You play around with a ton of weird builds, have you ever got knight slayer to work good? I really want to continue to play a tank buster role for my pact and I just don't know how to do it next patch.
Source on caluurian?
Oh I tested it again and it does not have the 1 second proc cd. The set I was testing it with was fire blossom and there is a bug? that makes calurions proc completely invisible, but it still does damage. That is why I thought calurions was added to the list.I wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
As you lay upon the ground, cry not little pawn.
The pain will pass as quickly as my blade did take you,
but my delight will last and you will respawn.
My heart simply cannot contain my joy, when I ply my trade.
The fault lies with you, your skill was lacking.
Now your salt is mine forever, can't you hear the laughing?
Once you were so proud and now you are reduced to this.
A miserable, loud deuced fool.
With every tear you drip, with every excuse you let slip.
All of your insecurities and worries bring a smile to my lip.
From your despair I have ripped endless glories,
but our affair is over now. Be afraid for I will return for more.
I have received many titles, to my allies I am The sniper Emperor and Grand champion hero of the Pact. However these titles mean little to me, it is the ones given to me by my victims that I prefer. To them I am "Xv1er", "trash", "no balls", "zerger", "noob", "cringe", "no skill", "camper", "100% new", "the reason this game is dying", "pathetic", "a sack of piece of [snip]", "mediocre", "absolute inbred", "beyond a virgin", "ganky dork", "fat smelly 40yr old virgin", "little girl", "daddy", "exploiting loser", and every [snipped] word known to man.0
Just sayin 
https://youtu.be/llkeLdVwdxk?t=447