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Deathmatch Leaderboard 1 Million Points
SkaraMinoc
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Deathmatch Leaderboard
With 56 minutes remaining, I reached 1003240 points.
How is your score so high?
Any 7500+ heal earns the Critical Heal badge which gives 100 points.
Here's 500 points:
Match Breakdown
Best Game: 3.7m healing
0 Kills 0 Deaths 0 Assists
"perfectly balanced, as all things should be" - Skara Thanos
The Build
Class: Magicka Sorcerer
Race: High Elf, Dark Elf, Argonian, Breton
Attributes: 64 magicka
Set 1: Spell Power Cure
Set 2: Healer's Habit
Monster: 1x Sentinel of Rkugamz heavy
Monster: 1x Symphony of Blades medium
Resto staff (front bar): Powered trait w/ Weapon Damage Enchant
Resto staff (back bar): Powered or Defending trait w/ any enchant
Jewelry: Arcane trait, Magicka Recovery enchant
Armor: Divines trait, Maximum Magicka enchant
Bar 1: Bound Aegis, Hardened Ward, Twilight Matriarch, Radiating Regeneration, Inner Light, Life Giver
Bar 2: Streak, Boundless Storm, Twilight Matriarch, Dark Deal, Power Surge, Life Giver
Mundus: The Atronach
Vampire Stage 3
Clockwork Citrus Filet
Essence of Spell Power
Battleground (No-CP) stats w/ potion and Boundless Storm active:
Tips
Use heavy attack when idle to keep Major Mending up.
Streak into clusters of enemy players for the aoe stun.
Dodge roll frequently to avoid damage and use Dark Deal to recover stamina.
Final Thoughts
~170 deathmatch games were played which took 6 hours/day for 7 days. 6 games were abandoned at a rate of ~3.5%.
All games were queued without a premade using "Deathmatch Only Battleground" queue. The solo queue takes too long.
Burnout wasn't an issue until around 150 games for the week, or approximately 900k leaderboard points.
Deathmatch is fun but after playing so many games, I want the objective game modes to come back.
Edited by SkaraMinoc on 27 September 2021 06:44 With 56 minutes remaining, I reached 1003240 points.
How is your score so high?
Any 7500+ heal earns the Critical Heal badge which gives 100 points.
Here's 500 points:
Match Breakdown
Best Game: 3.7m healing
0 Kills 0 Deaths 0 Assists
"perfectly balanced, as all things should be" - Skara Thanos
The Build
Class: Magicka Sorcerer
Race: High Elf, Dark Elf, Argonian, Breton
Attributes: 64 magicka
Set 1: Spell Power Cure
Set 2: Healer's Habit
Monster: 1x Sentinel of Rkugamz heavy
Monster: 1x Symphony of Blades medium
Resto staff (front bar): Powered trait w/ Weapon Damage Enchant
Resto staff (back bar): Powered or Defending trait w/ any enchant
Jewelry: Arcane trait, Magicka Recovery enchant
Armor: Divines trait, Maximum Magicka enchant
Bar 1: Bound Aegis, Hardened Ward, Twilight Matriarch, Radiating Regeneration, Inner Light, Life Giver
Bar 2: Streak, Boundless Storm, Twilight Matriarch, Dark Deal, Power Surge, Life Giver
Mundus: The Atronach
Vampire Stage 3
Clockwork Citrus Filet
Essence of Spell Power
Battleground (No-CP) stats w/ potion and Boundless Storm active:
Tips
Use heavy attack when idle to keep Major Mending up.
Streak into clusters of enemy players for the aoe stun.
Dodge roll frequently to avoid damage and use Dark Deal to recover stamina.
Final Thoughts
~170 deathmatch games were played which took 6 hours/day for 7 days. 6 games were abandoned at a rate of ~3.5%.
All games were queued without a premade using "Deathmatch Only Battleground" queue. The solo queue takes too long.
Burnout wasn't an issue until around 150 games for the week, or approximately 900k leaderboard points.
Deathmatch is fun but after playing so many games, I want the objective game modes to come back.
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SkaraMinoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You can move Dark Deal to frontbar and Regeneration to backbar for slightly larger frontbar heals.
Bar 1: Bound Aegis, Hardened Ward, Twilight Matriarch, Dark Deal, Inner Light, Life Giver
Bar 2: Streak, Boundless Storm, Twilight Matriarch, Radiating Regeneration, Power Surge, Life Giver
Edited by SkaraMinoc on 27 September 2021 06:31PC NA0 -
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✭Well done on your accomplishments but you also should've mentioned that the critical heal medal is bugged. It's supposed to award 5 medal score not 100. Been bugged for as long as I can remember.Edited by dinokstrunz on 27 September 2021 07:080 -
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✭dinokstrunz wrote: »Well done on your accomplishments but you also should've mentioned that the critical heal medal is bugged. It's supposed to award 5 medal score not 100. Been bugged for as long as I can remember.
Maybe it is bugged, but Healers aren't awarded enough points for how much impact their Healing has in Death Match.
Cool post OP, nice work.Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast1 -
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✭Urzigurumash wrote: »dinokstrunz wrote: »Well done on your accomplishments but you also should've mentioned that the critical heal medal is bugged. It's supposed to award 5 medal score not 100. Been bugged for as long as I can remember.
Maybe it is bugged, but Healers aren't awarded enough points for how much impact their Healing has in Death Match.
Cool post OP, nice work.
It's not maybe, it is. Healers are rewarded fairly for what they do and how easy it actually is. Healing in deathmatch is probably the most straight forward role to fill in a deathmatch team/premade given how over performing cross healing is in the current climate of BGs.1 -
nightstrike✭✭✭✭✭dinokstrunz wrote: »It's not maybe, it is.
Is there a post where ZOS says it's giving the wrong score?Warning: This signature is tiny!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Over the weekend I was really getting sick of running he inconsistent rapid regen for heals. And swapped out that for matriarch. Dropped one of my shields, and dropped fury for Ice wall. Found my survivability went through the roof, and the burst heal is far better than rapid regen. But I hate running pets, so this is likely short lived. And without room for fury, killing power is greatly diminished on the build. I can put out 1 mil damage, top the leaderboard for my team, but only have like 4 kills in a winning match.1 -
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✭nightstrike wrote: »dinokstrunz wrote: »It's not maybe, it is.
Is there a post where ZOS says it's giving the wrong score?
It's written in the in-game help tab.
It's obviously awarding more points than it should since the medal is awarding more points than the 15k heal hit medal. As for official ZoS response to this I cannot find any but it's been reported several times over the years.1 -
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✭✭✭dinokstrunz wrote: »It's obviously awarding more points than it should since the medal is awarding more points than the 15k heal hit medal.
Rapid Recovery rewards 200 points not 10.
Are you sure the documentation isn't out of date and the heal badges are working as originally intended?
Imagine if Critical Heal was only 5 points. The 3.7 million healing game with a 13900 score game mentioned in the original post would only be 2690 score which is hilariously low. Nobody would ever play a healer in battlegrounds.
Here's a comment from April 2020 that agrees.
Edited by SkaraMinoc on 27 September 2021 20:16PC NA2 -
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✭✭✭The badge difficulty changes changes over time. Battle Spirit gets adjusted, new sets get added, old sets get nerfed, etc.
The entire battleground medal system could probably use a review and update by the dev team.
Edited by SkaraMinoc on 27 September 2021 20:20PC NA1 -
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✭✭Congratulations that impressive!! Thanks for sharing.
Nothing against you but been saying for a long time that Matriarch should not get 2 full heals since most other skills except DK’s Obsidian Shard which has a travel times and requires a target to use. Plus, it’s 360 degree unlike other skills is just too strong. Comparing it to BOL is just a joke.1 -
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✭> Power Surge
Idk I prefer to run orb instead, to give allies resources. Can use blue pvp pot instead.
I can confirm that sorc healer is the best BGs healer. My build runs max magica for stronger shields.
That's neat trick of yours with Dark Deal and dodgerolls, I should totally try this.Edited by divnyi on 29 September 2021 09:122 -
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✭A Mag sorc was once known to win games on its own regardless of team composition
A Mag sorc was once known to be PVP DD
A Mag sorc was once known to *** on premades
A Mag sorc was once known to have an infinite skill cap
A Mag sorc was once known to do a 1v4v4 in TDM and still win
I miss that Mag sorc
Good news though ! Mag sorc can now heal for 2m + by spamming the same 2 buttons over and over.Edited by PhoenixGrey on 30 September 2021 18:502 -
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✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »I miss that Mag sorc
Go play solo magsorc, what's your problem? It is still one of the most broken DDs because same stat that gives damage also gives toughness. And streak is still OP.
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✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »I miss that Mag sorc
Go play solo magsorc, what's your problem? It is still one of the most broken DDs because same stat that gives damage also gives toughness. And streak is still OP.
Everyone enjoys playing a class in whatever way they want to play it.
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moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »Why play solo mag sorc as i can play anything stam and do much better
How do you counter sorcs who keep the distance and keep throwing crystal frags?0 -
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✭✭✭I suck at sorc so I only heal but a good Magsorc like @Magio_ is really difficult to kill. In <10 seconds I've dumped the 6 mil dummy equivalent of ~35k sustained dps on the guy w/ max damage everything and he didn't die. Magsorc with damage shield every second + auto block, mist form, dodge rolls, streak, etc. Such a pain to deal with.
Edited by SkaraMinoc on 1 October 2021 23:39PC NA0 -
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✭SkaraMinoc wrote: »I suck at sorc so I only heal but a good Magsorc like @Magio_ is really difficult to kill. In <10 seconds I've dumped the 6 mil dummy equivalent of ~35k sustained dps on the guy w/ max damage everything and he didn't die. Magsorc with damage shield every second + auto block, mist form, dodge rolls, streak, etc. Such a pain to deal with.
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✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »Why play solo mag sorc as i can play anything stam and do much better
How do you counter sorcs who keep the distance and keep throwing crystal frags?
You tank them out. Dodging a frag is pretty unnecessary imo. Even surprise attack does more damage than frags these daysEdited by PhoenixGrey on 2 October 2021 17:040 -
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Yes, the documentation is out of date. I remember the change being made as a way for healers to earn more Medals a few years ago.SkaraMinoc wrote: »Are you sure the documentation isn't out of date and the heal badges are working as originally intended?SkaraMinoc wrote: »The entire battleground medal system could probably use a review and update by the dev team.
Not only that all, but those numbers for BG Medals and BG Achievements are really just arbitrary. The problem is that they were set in a time when BGs were CP Enabled.SkaraMinoc wrote: »Magio_ is really difficult to kill. In <10 seconds I've dumped the 6 mil dummy equivalent of ~35k sustained dps on the guy w/ max damage everything and he didn't die. Magsorc with damage shield every second + auto block, mist form, dodge rolls, streak, etc.
I don't use shields or mist form. Magicka Sorcerer has a skill slot problem, always has had it for me at least. It's so bad, I have to run Spell Power Pots with my current build because I can't fit Critical Surge, so no way I could fit shields and Mist Form lol. Imho, Max Magicka builds are too weak in BGs anyway and have been for a while. Shields are too selfish. Keeping a teammate from dying is sometimes worth as much as securing a kill.
Now to the actual post itself. I told you this before on another thread, but those BG leaderboards have no value. Any burn out you are experiencing is probably due to going too hard at an accomplishment that means very little. You almost doubled 2nd place's score and for what? Even 100th place got as good as rewards as you did. Which are very bad anyway, but that's a topic for another thread.
I believe you'd have more fun if you chased a different goal that means more, like a high win rate. People notice good healers even if your Medal Score is low at the end of the game. You were technically just memeing with that build and your Win Rate is still above average in the 40's. I say you were memeing because to earn that medal you had to let your teammates drop 7,500 HP each time you earned it. That's anywhere from 20-30% of the typical BG build.
As a DD, I'd rather the healer on my team keep my HP bar topped off with heals over time so there's as few chances as possible to get caught by a burst combo at low HP. I play a Warden Healer and the build that earns 1-2k medals is way more effective at keeping people alive and thus winning matches than the meme one that earns 15k+ medals.
So, just tweak your build a bit and focus your effort into keeping your teammates alive and not using them to farm Medal Score. Your win rate will definitely go up and you'll have a goal that's more rewarding in the end. Your fellow BGers will definitely notice.2
