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Best Budget-E.S.O-Laptop

99LukeKBub17_ESO
There's a storm a-brewin'... Ya, see... I'm going to have to get rid of my laptop soon. This is a 1,000 dollar laptop (not even a gaming laptop), and I was honestly surprised that it could run E.S.O in Medium settings with fairly decent FPS (no noticeable lag, except occasionally a tiny-bit of lag in the high activity areas). So to replace it, my budget is merely around 500$. And thus my question for you, the E.S.O Community: Does anyone know of any new/used laptops that can run E.S.O on decent settings with a good FPS?
Any and all helpful ideas/suggestions will be vastly appreciated.
-Thanks ahead of time, Luke
  • 99LukeKBub17_ESO
    oops, forgot to mention that a Desktop is out of the question, i need something mobile.
    please, if you could help at all with this I would be very grateful. I'm not very tech-savvy and I don't know what I should be looking for in these laptops.
  • crislevin
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    Depends on screen resolution, if it's 1366x720, an Intel gma 4000 or radeon integrated card would do at medium setting.

    At Full HD, you will definitely need a gaming laptop, the one with 670M or 6800M.
  • alterfenixeb17_ESO
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    crislevin wrote: »
    Depends on screen resolution, if it's 1366x720, an Intel gma 4000 or radeon integrated card would do at medium setting.

    At Full HD, you will definitely need a gaming laptop, the one with 670M or 6800M.
    I am playing currently on Full HD using HD3000 (so a bit less than HD4000). It is stable 20 fps on medium. Not the best experience, granted but never had any significant lag related to graphics - even with lots of effects on the screen. Although I agree that 650M atleast would be much better (you may want to consider also SLI)

  • SirLee
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    At a 500$ budget I would recommend looking into a refurbished unit. HP and Dell have good outlet stores to get factory refurbished laptops from, or use Newegg. In fact go to Newegg first, as I have never had an issue with them. Their customer service is top notch and they have competitive pricing.

    Also, with that budget you will want to look into an fast AMD A10 or A8. Good enough CPU with a best in class GPU. Only an Intel Iris pro is as good of an integrated GPU, but costs a whole lot more. Just be aware that you get what you pay for in built quality. If you need this laptop for anything other than entertainment, you will want to look into a pro level unit. HP Pro Books are very nice for this price range. Here is their latest product line so you can get an idea on price. HP ProBook. They have good build quality and are easy to service. But the screens are not what one would call the best for gaming. Still to get a gaming level screen you are going to be paying more than 500$ anyway.
    I am sure Dell has a similar laptop line. So if you prefer Dell then they are an option as well.

    Your biggest problem is the 500$ budget. That makes it very hard to get something right now off the shelf. If you had more time , I have seen Newegg and Amazon deals come up occasionally with what you want. But, there is no predicting when they will come up...
    He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious. Sun Tzu
  • 99LukeKBub17_ESO
    SirLee wrote: »
    At a 500$ budget I would recommend looking into a refurbished unit. HP and Dell have good outlet stores to get factory refurbished laptops from, or use Newegg. In fact go to Newegg first, as I have never had an issue with them. Their customer service is top notch and they have competitive pricing.

    Also, with that budget you will want to look into an fast AMD A10 or A8. Good enough CPU with a best in class GPU. Only an Intel Iris pro is as good of an integrated GPU, but costs a whole lot more. Just be aware that you get what you pay for in built quality. If you need this laptop for anything other than entertainment, you will want to look into a pro level unit. HP Pro Books are very nice for this price range. Here is their latest product line so you can get an idea on price. HP ProBook. They have good build quality and are easy to service. But the screens are not what one would call the best for gaming. Still to get a gaming level screen you are going to be paying more than 500$ anyway.
    I am sure Dell has a similar laptop line. So if you prefer Dell then they are an option as well.

    Your biggest problem is the 500$ budget. That makes it very hard to get something right now off the shelf. If you had more time , I have seen Newegg and Amazon deals come up occasionally with what you want. But, there is no predicting when they will come up...

    Funny, when I posted this question I sort of expected to get some responses that I couldn't understand... But I wasn't ready for this sort of confusion!
    Haha, well you seem very knowledgable could you perhaps point me into a specefic laptop. I don't care much about screen size, but I wil likely new it for more tha just gaming
  • SirLee
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    Here are a few options to look at:
    HP Pavilion 17-e067cl 17 inch 1600 x 900 screen, 8 GB of ram, 750 GB Hard drive,and a A8-5550M
    If size and weight do not matter then this one is the best I could find GPU wise.

    HP Pavilion 15-n088ca 15 inch touchscreen at 1366 x 768, * GB ram, 1 TB Hard Drive, and a A8-5545M
    If you want something a bit lighter and with a touchscreen go with this one.

    DELL Latitude 3330 13.3 inch screen 4GB Ram, 320GB Hard Drive, and an i5 3337U
    Small and light but with the best CPU in this list, but the worst GPU. Go with this one if portability is of primary concern or you need the best CPU you can get for other tasks. Note this is an ultrabook so no optical drive. Also, it has Windows 7 Pro if you are picky about your OS.

    HP Probook 430 G1 1366 x 768 13.3 inch, i3 4010U, 4GB ram, and 320GB
    Another ultrabook, but with a better GPU and a worst CPU. Built like a tank. ProBooks are some of the best Pro class laptops available, and built much better than the consumer crap like the Pavilions. I would recommend this one, but the video card is still pretty weak and the screen is only 13.3 inches.

    Take a look here for some more examples:
    NewEgg laptops in the 400-500 dollar price range. If you look around you may be able to get a better deal. But, it will require effort and a lot of luck. Check your local stores for closeouts, and look at what amazon and other online sellers have to offer. To play games, you want the best video card you can get. Most games will run fine on any relatively good CPU (AMD A8 or A10 or any intel i3, i5, or i7) with room to spare. What they need is video card power. Do not get anything with less than 4GB of ram! Try for 6 or more if at all possible.
    He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious. Sun Tzu
  • RustyBlades
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    Albeit ugly, my AMD Quad Core HP DV6 with an ATI 5450 from 2010ish runs ESO just fine at low - med settings. I do have 6GB of ram on board. I guess it comes down to how much $$ you want to throw at a laptop. At $500 you are looking at an eBay special since most "add-on" quality laptop graphics usually chime in on the higher end machines.
  • 99LukeKBub17_ESO
    SirLee wrote: »
    Here are a few options to look at:
    HP Pavilion 17-e067cl 17 inch 1600 x 900 screen, 8 GB of ram, 750 GB Hard drive,and a A8-5550M
    If size and weight do not matter then this one is the best I could find GPU wise.

    HP Pavilion 15-n088ca 15 inch touchscreen at 1366 x 768, * GB ram, 1 TB Hard Drive, and a A8-5545M
    If you want something a bit lighter and with a touchscreen go with this one.

    DELL Latitude 3330 13.3 inch screen 4GB Ram, 320GB Hard Drive, and an i5 3337U
    Small and light but with the best CPU in this list, but the worst GPU. Go with this one if portability is of primary concern or you need the best CPU you can get for other tasks. Note this is an ultrabook so no optical drive. Also, it has Windows 7 Pro if you are picky about your OS.

    HP Probook 430 G1 1366 x 768 13.3 inch, i3 4010U, 4GB ram, and 320GB
    Another ultrabook, but with a better GPU and a worst CPU. Built like a tank. ProBooks are some of the best Pro class laptops available, and built much better than the consumer crap like the Pavilions. I would recommend this one, but the video card is still pretty weak and the screen is only 13.3 inches.

    Take a look here for some more examples:
    NewEgg laptops in the 400-500 dollar price range. If you look around you may be able to get a better deal. But, it will require effort and a lot of luck. Check your local stores for closeouts, and look at what amazon and other online sellers have to offer. To play games, you want the best video card you can get. Most games will run fine on any relatively good CPU (AMD A8 or A10 or any intel i3, i5, or i7) with room to spare. What they need is video card power. Do not get anything with less than 4GB of ram! Try for 6 or more if at all possible.

    Thanks a ton. I forgot to mention that i have another laptop that i can use for most other things than gaming, but when i tried to run ESO on it, it didnt work. so if need-be then i can dedicate this new laptop as a pure gaming laptop. i was just having troubles justifying $500 on something i will likely only play ESO on. So if this laptop were to be a pure gaming laptop then, if i understand you correctly the 1st or 3rd option or my best choices? which do you think would run ESO better on decent settings?
  • SirLee
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    I would go with the first one if you do not mind a big heavy plastic brick. The second if you want a slightly smaller plastic brick. ESO will not max any of these CPU's but can use the better GPU's to either make things nicer looking or up the frame rate. But, be very carefull with them as they tend not to be built very well. Do not drop them and be carefull of the power cable connector. In my extensive experience both are the most common causes of failure in consumer grade laptops. Treat it like a baby, and keep it cool, and it should last a while. You may want to call up the manufactures support line and see how much an extended warranty costs as well.

    The third one has a much better CPU, but you will get no advantage out of it when playing ESO. This is because you will never stress it enough to use that extra power when playing at these resolutions and details. And, the GPU is just barely acceptable in my unhumble opinion.

    The Fourth one is a little better in that it has a better video card/GPU and still more than enough CPU. I have a slightly larger one from the last generation, and it does well for most non-gameing tasks, but still struggles with keeping the FPS up.

    If you can wait, I would. Intel is rumored to be putting out a refresh of the 4th gen i-core's in June. When that happens you may see a price drop on the older stuff. If you had another 50$ to 100$ to spend, you could get a much better laptop. But, if all you can justify is 500$ then you are kind of limited at this point, unless you catch a really good sale. In fact if you can wait some, that may be the best bet. Lots of good back to school sales happen at the end of July.
    He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious. Sun Tzu
  • dwaightb16_ESO
    crislevin wrote: »
    Depends on screen resolution, if it's 1366x720, an Intel gma 4000 or radeon integrated card would do at medium setting.

    At Full HD, you will definitely need a gaming laptop, the one with 670M or 6800M.
    I am playing currently on Full HD using HD3000 (so a bit less than HD4000). It is stable 20 fps on medium. Not the best experience, granted but never had any significant lag related to graphics - even with lots of effects on the screen. Although I agree that 650M atleast would be much better (you may want to consider also SLI)
    SLI on a laptop? wat

    more heat = more problems
  • sociald100ub17_ESO
    oops, forgot to mention that a Desktop is out of the question, i need something mobile.
    please, if you could help at all with this I would be very grateful. I'm not very tech-savvy and I don't know what I should be looking for in these laptops.

    You are going to have a tough time. im sure you can get something that will run it but probably on lower settings. You could do a lot with 500 dollars in the desktop side of things, im just saying..
  • cubansyrusb16_ESO
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    Lets throw out another option ... does it have to be a laptop ?

    Let me leave this here for though

    $170 - i5 3350p 3.1ghz - turbo 3.3ghz
    $200 - MSI GTX 660 OC 2GB
    $85 - MSI B75A-G43 Motherboard
    $70 - corsair gs600 power supply
    $20-30 - off the shelf 8gb ram

    Total $555 .... a Midi ATX case can be anywhere between $30-$100+ depending if it comes with fans

    EDIT : As i was typing this, noticed you said PC was out of the question .. ill still leave this here.
    Edited by cubansyrusb16_ESO on 28 April 2014 23:19
  • 100p.weasel_ESO
    With a 500 dollar budget you should forget it. A decent laptop that can run ESO is just not going to happen with something less than $800.00 and even with that you're looking at med settings at best. I would suggest you get yourself a desktop and just haul that beast around.
  • SirLee
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    Lets throw out another option ... does it have to be a laptop ?

    Let me leave this here for though

    $170 - i5 3350p 3.1ghz - turbo 3.3ghz
    $200 - MSI GTX 660 OC 2GB
    $85 - MSI B75A-G43 Motherboard
    $70 - corsair gs600 power supply
    $20-30 - off the shelf 8gb ram

    Total $555 .... a Midi ATX case can be anywhere between $30-$100+ depending if it comes with fans

    EDIT : As i was typing this, noticed you said PC was out of the question .. ill still leave this here.

    You may want give the Ars Budget Box guide a look. They have a good component breakdown for basic gaming on the cheap. They include a Monitor and keyboard and mouse in the cost, so it works out to a bit under 800$. Well outside of the given budget here. And, you will need to include an OS so add another 100$ or so. Unless someone has ESO working well in WINE now.

    He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious. Sun Tzu
  • cubansyrusb16_ESO
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    SirLee wrote: »
    Lets throw out another option ... does it have to be a laptop ?

    Let me leave this here for though

    $170 - i5 3350p 3.1ghz - turbo 3.3ghz
    $200 - MSI GTX 660 OC 2GB
    $85 - MSI B75A-G43 Motherboard
    $70 - corsair gs600 power supply
    $20-30 - off the shelf 8gb ram

    Total $555 .... a Midi ATX case can be anywhere between $30-$100+ depending if it comes with fans

    EDIT : As i was typing this, noticed you said PC was out of the question .. ill still leave this here.

    You may want give the Ars Budget Box guide a look. They have a good component breakdown for basic gaming on the cheap. They include a Monitor and keyboard and mouse in the cost, so it works out to a bit under 800$. Well outside of the given budget here. And, you will need to include an OS so add another 100$ or so. Unless someone has ESO working well in WINE now.

    I forgot the OS, by no means do i think i know much about computers but those components and prices are sound.

    The OP might have a copy of a Windows OS laying around i know i have 7 and 8 just in the draw of the desk, these can be used on 3 machine i think it is.

    MIce and keyboards are so cheap its hardly worth mentioning, what i gave was a list of parts that can and will run this game maxed out a 40-50 fps in cities, 70-100 in open world and 90+ in dungeons.

    These part even if you was to add the OS + case are far better than an equiverlant pre-built system off the self at the same price by a good length.

    ......... And not far off the list you linked if you take away the peripherals
    Edited by cubansyrusb16_ESO on 29 April 2014 00:13
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