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Datamine to cross reference with the above list if you can't wait for the 23rd

xgoku1 wrote: »

Apex Costume and Personality ... yikes

Oh lol, that's an instant turn off right there.

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xgoku1 wrote: »

Apex Costume and Personality ... yikes

Oh lol, that's an instant turn off right there.

400 gems for a personality? Super sad.

This wouldn't bother me if there were more Worm Wizard/Beast/earnable options, but as is, I am really tired of everything just going into crates. Dungeon rewards are becoming more body markings and junk that you can't see anyway. I was on cloud nine for like a week after I finally earned Worm Wizard. Nothing from a dungeon in the past 2 years has given me that same sense of reward.

Personalities, imo, are the best cosmetics available because they can really define your character. But putting it at the 400 gem level instead of the 100 seems insane.

Sigh. So much good stuff in ESO until the accounting department gets their hands on it.

Completely agree on earnable part, it was worth going for and had a satisfaction factor to it compared to now where you get nothing.

400 gems is a rip off in my book for such a stuff, no amount of "free" endeavours would change that.

It is sad that "in a first for Crown Crates since their inception, the Apex reward tier will include a costume and personality!" IF these were item types we would also see "for the first time" in game - maybe - but for costumes ( already sold for certain prices) and for personalities ( both earned in game and also usually for a specific price) this feels like a desperate financial move rather than something exciting - and it does edge on rip-off. If you want to impress - bring something totally new, never before in the entire store /game existence, truly making one go "wow - I MUST have this" - not .... this.

My post was rightly removed, because there was nothing constructive in it.

My complaint is the Crown Store offerings often feel low effort because there seems to be little thought towards the integrity of the lore.

The Ascadian Isles Black Sheep is the perfect example of something we have seen a lot of -random lore names slapped onto various unrelated reskins with little thought to how it fits in with the IP. Anyone who has spent 5 minutes in Vvardenfell will see the problem with it.

I love ESO and I've put a lot of time and money in for the opportunity to play an authentic Elder Scrolls experience, so its disappointing when crown store stuff seems to demonstrate a systematic lack of care for the spirit of the franchise.

There are a lot of compromises an Online Elder Scrolls must make, but please put some more thought and effort into controlling the quality of the stuff that comes through the store, so that its stuff that makes sense within the mythology of the IP.

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xgoku1 wrote: »

Apex Costume and Personality ... yikes

yea, i love how they try to pitch it like a good thing lol

"...Apex reward tier will include a costume and personality!" Please let those in charge of this decision know that this isn't cool & needs to be changed & understood WHY. There are VERY good reasons why this is a 1st. It comes across as very greedy to put these in the rarest tier (and supporting gambling!) instead of simply in the Crown Store proper where we can simply spend a set amount of Crowns (or other like Endeavors) to purchase. This is bad customer service & negative P.R. that is only doing more harm than good. It isn't a good look to be so happy & excited announcing this as if it is a positive thing; it doesn't work and only makes it worse. The amount of whales you get w/this ... is it really worth it?

"But it's only cosmetic" ... changing it can only do you MORE good because I'm sure lots of people will like to get it simply from the Crown Store (at a fair price, mind you). This should have never been approved, you need to think things through more. But you can still gain forgiveness if you change this and apologize. I assure you and hope you understand.

I'm ESO+ and have played since Beta. Thank you for working on such a fun game to explore and play by myself and friends and meeting new friends along the way. Shame on you for this move. Nobody likes to be reprimanded, but it has to be done in cases such as this. Best to you and stay safe

I really do not like the costume/personality in the apex tier. IMO, the overall quality of the "reskins" have gone down as it is. And I HATE how the trend has gone from skins being rewards for dungeons/trials to crates every quarter. Its awful. Instead we get flimsy markings that pretty much suck and cant even really be seen under armor anyway.

What happened to earnable achievement content that felt like it was something amazing? There is a reason new people are STILL excited to go back and get Worm Wizard personality and the skin from scalecaller, and those were DRAGON BONES DLC rewards, or the vmol and vas trial skins even..... YEARS old now! Instead, more and more cosmetic stuff keeps getting locked behind a higher crate/gem tier.

I like how endeavors were thrown out as something to perhaps pacify the masses, but it will take literally months to a year to earn what you want from if its a apex or heaven forbid, radiant reward. I find less and less reason to log in daily when the bugs are piling up, achievements dont always work, the game keeps crashing, sets change for little reason every few months, but here, pay 100-500 dollars for something that when the game was young you could earn by doing a dungeon achievement and feel amazing.

Oof, I'm sorry to say it but I do feel bad for the marketing person who had to try to spin 'Apex-level costume and personality' into a positive. But honestly is does feel a bit off-putting for the article to say "in a first for Crown Crates since their inception, the Apex reward tier will include a costume and personality!" when we've had costumes and personalities in Crates before... and at 1/4 to 1/10 of the gem cost.

I will normally defend a lot of monetization strategies. I recognize that the cost of video games has not at all been keeping up with inflation (I've seen ads from the 90s where N64 games cost $60. Now, console games are still going for around $60 30 years later). And I enjoy supporting games I like by buying cosmetics to change how my characters look. Now I'm not a huge fan of gamble crates and would rather have a system where I could buy what I wanted directly, but I think a cosmetics store is a great feature for games to have.
...but this is even a bit too far for me.

I love character cosmetics. I'll usually buy pretty well all hairstyles and personalities whether I need it or not, just on the off chance I feel like having it for a screenshot or an alt. And yet I can't get excited about the personality or the hairstyle here - the personality since it's so much more expensive than they normally are (and I'm not really into the whole evil clown thing in the first place) and the hairstyle since it seems like a slap in the face considering all the styles that we've been begging for over the last 5 years, and all we get is a recolor of an inside joke to look like another inside joke.

Please reconsider your release schedule in the store. There are so many people who would buy cosmetics if they weren't gated behind grinding or gambling. I understand that Endeavors are likely eating into the standard revenue from crates, but there are people who would buy cosmetics (and can't use Endeavors for it) if there were more things released in the store proper. So many things are removed from the store and are barely ever seen again - look at the hairstyles that finally came back this year after over 3.5 years unavailable. And also consider releasing the things that we're hyped about but still don't have: the Short Mussed Wave hairstyle, Velsa's hairstyle, the Bard personality... all of these have people begging to give money for, but we can't.

If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion: I'm assuming your October releases are already set, but you may still be planning your later releases. May I suggest making a larger offering for Black Fredas this year? We normally only get a mount bundle, but it could be fun (and lucrative) to offer a lot of out-of-the-store items that may not have been seen in a while. Perhaps even some of those datamined things that never released?

Since I got it in my third crate, here's a PSA on the Garb of Grinning Horrors costume before someone spends 400 gems on it: you can't dye the yellow parts!

I really don’t get why the costume and personality are apex.

I'm afraid that they pushing some things to Apex, because of Endavours - since system started I get 2 nice legendary things and just ignoring Apex tier. And ZOS don't want us to ignore Apex tier...

"in a first for Crown Crates since their inception, the Apex reward tier will include a costume and personality!"

Whoopee! Means if you're lucky (or unlucky) enough to get a bunch of duplicates while opening crates, you would only need to spend around 20.000 crowns on crates and pray so you get enough gems by the end of it to just buy ONE of the two new new Apex rewards! What's not to love?

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I really don’t get why the costume and personality are apex.

I'm afraid that they pushing some things to Apex, because of Endavours - since system started I get 2 nice legendary things and just ignoring Apex tier. And ZOS don't want us to ignore Apex tier...

Well.... considering their "consistency" with the items from crates vs crowns - I wouldn't be surprised to see that same costume today worth 400 gems after 1 or 2 years ready for ... 1200 crowns ( maybe 2000 and make it a bundle with some major adornment!) - isn't this how it works!? (will let you think how this makes it look to the usual customer). And yes, people DO want to spend money and support their favourite game ( myself included) and I wouldn't post around if I wouldn't care - but like many others since many a year now - I am still here, I am still enjoying it, I am sure hoping this sort of thing to be corrected in the future. Do not underestimate the discernment of your customers though - it is but the switch of a button to dump it all and turn to greener pastures ( and there is always one out there - somewhere - provided one looks !)

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I really don’t get why the costume and personality are apex.

I'm afraid that they pushing some things to Apex, because of Endavours - since system started I get 2 nice legendary things and just ignoring Apex tier. And ZOS don't want us to ignore Apex tier...

I've said it elsewhere but it does seem a little too convenient that they start pushing rewards that used to always be at Legendary tier at their highest, to Apex tier right about when those people who chose to save up should be able to afford Apex tier soon...

Except now it also affects those who spend money on crates. So there goes the "oh my god, endeavors are just free stuff! It doesn't affect anything else!" arguments.

Then again, who knows. I could just be a crazy conspiracy theorist.