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What exploit?

Hallothiel
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I know I probably shouldn’t ask, and this thread will be closed, but my curiosity is piqued - what exploit are they hotfixing?

Genuinely interested, as amazed at how people a) find these things out, then b) consciously decide to exploit it for whatever foolish reason.
  • netch_a_sketch
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    Yeah I wanna know too. And why it takes 4 whole hours :((
  • SeaGtGruff
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    4 hours is pretty much standard maintenance time. I wouldn't be surprised if the servers are back up in less than 4 hours, but then I have no idea what exploit is being hotfixed or how complicated the hotfix might be.
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  • ApoAlaia
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    Apparently the Worm Ice Staff was dropping more often than intended.

    I got mine yesterday after 120+ runs which is unacceptable. Minimum should be 250 so I guess they are addressing that pronto.

    Hopefully they will let me keep it but I am not holding my breath.
  • Ufretin
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    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p
  • ApoAlaia
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    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

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  • Thannazzar
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    Might be Argentina Steam Account Crowns thing (just google it)
  • EpicHero
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    People were exploiting the next gen versions to constantly crash the game.

    They are hot fixing that now, so the game runs stable, and they can no longer crash it.

    /nod... Yes.... that's what's happening...
  • oterWitz
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    Thannazzar wrote: »
    Might be Argentina Steam Account Crowns thing (just google it)
    All the stuff I see on that is old, and didn't they fix that recently by standardizing prices to be equivalent to the cost in USD (which is why crown prices have been so high)?

    I'd say it's more likely the money-making thing. Ufretin should get some pats on the back and cute animal pictures as a thanks while we wait for the servers to come back up :p
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  • Hallothiel
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    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

    See, now I want to know what you reported!

    No, not to make huge amounts of gold (that’s easy enough just playing) but because I find it fascinating, how people find out / do these things.
  • Ufretin
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    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

    See, now I want to know what you reported!

    No, not to make huge amounts of gold (that’s easy enough just playing) but because I find it fascinating, how people find out / do these things.

    I'll tell you after they fixed it (if they fix it).
  • aussie500
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    Well if it is to stop people teleporting to other players in the Deadland's, which is pretty insignificant, they could at least change it so we could teleport to the Blackwood public dungeons.

    The worm ice staff drop rate is ridiculous, we definitely need an exploit so more of us can actually get one.
  • ApoAlaia
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    aussie500 wrote: »
    Well if it is to stop people teleporting to other players in the Deadland's, which is pretty insignificant, they could at least change it so we could teleport to the Blackwood public dungeons.

    The worm ice staff drop rate is ridiculous, we definitely need an exploit so more of us can actually get one.

    I didn't know that was an exploit...

    I have done this a few times, it still lands you - or at least me - on the first 'area', it just saves you the merry wild goose chase of finding a portal, it does not land you at the boss.

    I is confuse.
  • netch_a_sketch
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    Ufretin wrote: »
    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

    See, now I want to know what you reported!

    No, not to make huge amounts of gold (that’s easy enough just playing) but because I find it fascinating, how people find out / do these things.

    I'll tell you after they fixed it (if they fix it).

    hey yeah you should tell me too... if they fix it... of course...
  • Ufretin
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    Jazzius wrote: »
    Ufretin wrote: »
    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

    See, now I want to know what you reported!

    No, not to make huge amounts of gold (that’s easy enough just playing) but because I find it fascinating, how people find out / do these things.

    I'll tell you after they fixed it (if they fix it).

    hey yeah you should tell me too... if they fix it... of course...

    You'll have to wait a little longer, the exploit I reported was not fixed today.
  • Kalik_Gold
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    Thannazzar wrote: »
    Might be Argentina Steam Account Crowns thing (just google it)

    Maybe, but doubt it.

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    Edited by Kalik_Gold on 17 August 2021 14:25
    Main: (PvP & PvE)
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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    *Breton
    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion

  • Amerises
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    Wait, I thought ps4 players were told they can only have scheduled maintenance times months in advance and that is why our inventory was ef'd up for 3 months?

    I'm assuming this exploit has been around for 3 months. Yeah, that.
  • Obsidian3
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    ApoAlaia wrote: »
    Apparently the Worm Ice Staff was dropping more often than intended.

    I got mine yesterday after 120+ runs which is unacceptable. Minimum should be 250 so I guess they are addressing that pronto.

    Hopefully they will let me keep it but I am not holding my breath.

    HAHA! Post of the year!
  • rauyran
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    Pretty sure it was a bug I wrote about here on the forum. My post was immediately removed because I stupidly didn't realise it was an exploit. I won't say the details but it involved a set that didn't lose its effect when unequipped. I just tested and it has been fixed.
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    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

    In my school days, when a child went to the teacher to accuse others, we left it in the trash can.
    Edited by Chips_Ahoy on 17 August 2021 16:42
  • gariondavey
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    rauyran wrote: »
    Pretty sure it was a bug I wrote about here on the forum. My post was immediately removed because I stupidly didn't realise it was an exploit. I won't say the details but it involved a set that didn't lose its effect when unequipped. I just tested and it has been fixed.

    What set?
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  • rauyran
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    What set?
    I think answering that could get me banned. If I see ZOS mention it in patch notes then I'll post what I found.
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    4 hours is pretty much standard maintenance time. I wouldn't be surprised if the servers are back up in less than 4 hours, but then I have no idea what exploit is being hotfixed or how complicated the hotfix might be.

    Agreed, plus when there's an exploit it isn't always just about taking the servers down to apply the hotfix, it's often also about cleansing the accounts that have taken advantage of the exploit.
  • Hallothiel
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    Thanks for al the replies!

    Guild rumour mill said was about people getting extra crowns but I could not see how that would effect all platforms & servers as consoles buy crowns differently. May be it was this but don’t understand how.

    Not sure a set working as not intended would cause a hotfix though as pretty common 🤣

    Maybe we’ll never know 😕
  • SeaGtGruff
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    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Thanks for al the replies!

    Guild rumour mill said was about people getting extra crowns but I could not see how that would effect all platforms & servers as consoles buy crowns differently. May be it was this but don’t understand how.

    Not sure a set working as not intended would cause a hotfix though as pretty common 🤣

    Maybe we’ll never know 😕

    If the exploit involving the set has been fixed, then that was probably what the hotfix was for. Removing a set but keeping the item bonuses from it, then equipping a different set and getting item bonuses for that, too-- if that's what was going on-- could potentially be a pretty major exploit.
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Thanks for al the replies!

    Guild rumour mill said was about people getting extra crowns but I could not see how that would effect all platforms & servers as consoles buy crowns differently. May be it was this but don’t understand how.

    Not sure a set working as not intended would cause a hotfix though as pretty common 🤣

    Maybe we’ll never know 😕

    If the exploit involving the set has been fixed, then that was probably what the hotfix was for. Removing a set but keeping the item bonuses from it, then equipping a different set and getting item bonuses for that, too-- if that's what was going on-- could potentially be a pretty major exploit.

    if its a hotfix its always about something Crownstore, Economy or PVE related. Set's or PVP related topics will never be hotfixed :)
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  • rauyran
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Thanks for al the replies!

    Guild rumour mill said was about people getting extra crowns but I could not see how that would effect all platforms & servers as consoles buy crowns differently. May be it was this but don’t understand how.

    Not sure a set working as not intended would cause a hotfix though as pretty common 🤣

    Maybe we’ll never know 😕

    If the exploit involving the set has been fixed, then that was probably what the hotfix was for. Removing a set but keeping the item bonuses from it, then equipping a different set and getting item bonuses for that, too-- if that's what was going on-- could potentially be a pretty major exploit.

    That's what I saw with this set. It was a pretty situational set but maybe they looked into it and found a bug that could have allowed other sets that were affected.
  • Ippokrates
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    Wasn't that Murkmire issue?
  • francesinhalover
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    Hallothiel wrote: »
    Ufretin wrote: »
    I did report a major exploit (about making lots of money) a few days ago. Never received an answer though.
    IF this is about the exploit I reported I'd be somewhat diappointed. Could at least have given me a pat on the back for being honest instead of abusing it. :p

    See, now I want to know what you reported!

    No, not to make huge amounts of gold (that’s easy enough just playing) but because I find it fascinating, how people find out / do these things.

    easy just by playing?
    I wouldn't mind some of your gold since you have so many.
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  • Hallothiel
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    @francesinhalover

    Yes, it is relatively easy to get a decent amount of gold each day. Do daily writs, harvest every node, either breakdown & sell mats from rubbish gear or sell to vendor; just doing mages & fighters guild dailies where they give you lots of ornate stuff to sell give as fair bit.

    And it all builds up over time.

    And that’s without entering the world of trading guilds.
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