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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Batswarm OP? LAWLS

rwood0604_ESO
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I would just like to say it is funny to see people complain about a skill cause they get ***, yes Mistform is broken even though it only says you gain the invulnerability to healing magic when you cast Mistform which in my personal opinion is the only thing here that is broken I would just like to add that everytime someone complains about this skill it is only always been a emperor in PvP which is able to do this only because they are emperor and the point of being an emperor is to be hard to kill and take out a zerg.

Next I would like to say that more skills are hardly op, you only need to know what to do against them, a little tip on the vampire emperor they have to be close to lots of people in order to survive using mistform and batswarm reguardless of if they can spam it or not best thing to do is if you see the emperor back away keep your distance and spread the hell out nuke from a far even if they have a pull or charge skill they will run out of mana/stam just trying to get enough people close to them to use the Batswarm/Mistform combo thus making that said combo ineffective.

On a side note now that this ridiculous complaint has been explained a DK emperor can be just as hard to take down simply by also spamming his ultimate MagmaArmor or whatever morph they choose combined with the morphed form of Inhale(Drain essence) which would alllow them to take minimum damage while running around draining the hp from players in a large group(once again can be countered by spreading out).

Long story short please look into the game in depth before making stupid complaints because you get you butts kicked by someone who is suppose to kick your butt in the first place.
Edited by rwood0604_ESO on 23 April 2014 02:45
  • dahl.lucas_ESO
    So....your crying over people who are crying? OK...
  • Lexander
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    long story short, its not only emperor who can do this, any good geared player is doing the same easily

    nice try with the wall of text tho
  • rwood0604_ESO
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    Lexander wrote: »
    long story short, its not only emperor who can do this, any good geared player is doing the same easily

    nice try with the wall of text tho

    no one but an emperor can spam ultimates repeatedly...
    So....your crying over people who are crying? OK...

    Yeah...totally crying because I think it's funny when people complain, I was only providing some info that might open their minds other than simply trolling with "git gud"
    Edited by rwood0604_ESO on 22 April 2014 22:43
  • Talek
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    Go counter Vampire Sorcerer with 0 ultimate cost when he can stack 5 batswarms on himself even if he's alone on the open field, then he can blink in zerg doing 600-800 dmg per sec to everyone and heal for the same amount per person then comeback and type that topic again.
  • Jonnymorrow
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    And if it is an emperor doing it then that's a good thing. Emperors are supposed to be strong.
  • rwood0604_ESO
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    And if it is an emperor doing it then that's a good thing. Emperors are supposed to be strong.

    I know thats my point here
  • Eikju
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    @rwood0604_ESO You missed the point. The swarm does not cost any ressources if you skill it right. You can spam it for 0 (!) Ultimate costs, instead of Magma Armor or Drain essence which costs magicka or real ulti points. THAT's the point. In my point of view it is a gamebreaker for ESO and Cyrodiil which should be fixed.
    Edited by Eikju on 23 April 2014 02:14
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  • skarvika
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    TL;DR only clicked to make fun of you for saying "LAWLS"
    QQing is a full time job
  • Kemono
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    And if it is an emperor doing it then that's a good thing. Emperors are supposed to be strong.
    Say who?
    You know how strong are "emperors" in TESO?
    You allready seen how, in prophet vision of past event of Five Companions.
    One of them was a Emperor. What happend to him?


    btw vid showing vamp abuser emperor
    (note to Mods -this is not "naming and shaming")
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM

    No, its not OP even one bit, right? -.-'
  • skarvika
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    Kemono wrote: »
    And if it is an emperor doing it then that's a good thing. Emperors are supposed to be strong.
    Say who?
    You know how strong are "emperors" in TESO?
    You allready seen how, in prophet vision of past event of Five Companions.
    One of them was a Emperor. What happend to him?
    Let's not forget in Oblivion the emperor died in the first quest! ;)
    Edited by skarvika on 23 April 2014 02:34
    QQing is a full time job
  • rwood0604_ESO
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    Eikju wrote: »
    @rwood0604_ESO You missed the point. The swarm does not cost any ressources if you skill it right. You can spam it for 0 (!) Ultimate costs, instead of Magma Armor or Drain essence which costs magicka or real ulti points. THAT's the point. In my point of view it is a gamebreaker for ESO and Cyrodiil which should be fixed.

    The closest you can get without emperor is a 95% reduc emperor adds the last 5% to make it 0 but I see your point, the problem here though is without Mistform being broken Batswarm would not be a problem even if they did spam it the only reason they live is because they still get healed from Batswarm while using the 75% damage reduction from mist form so Mistform is the only thing needing to be fixed admitted I realized this after started the OP but without Mistform being broken even with the spamming of batswarm you can out dps the healing if you spread out and keep from grouping around them and use silverbolts
  • Samadhi
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    Kemono wrote: »
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    btw vid showing vamp abuser emperor
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    No, its not OP even one bit, right? -.-'

    Interesting video.

    What was the rest of the enemy army doing while their emperor was keeping so many people distracted?
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  • Nijjion
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    no one but an emperor can spam ultimates repeatedly...

    Saw Pryda on his stream spam the swarm ult the other day and he wasn't emperor... Just so you know.
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  • Pryda
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    Yes, that *** is OP.

    You can still deal with it but it requieres knowledge of everyone and that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

    Bats morphed into Invisible: gather up and AoE down, the guy will just move off or die, don't forget to use CC.
    Bats morphed into drain life: spread out, snare the guy and kill him

    It's like 2 opposite ways to deal with it and it's a big deal to teach this to everyone.
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  • cjtignub17_ESO
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    Lol first of all u cant stack bat swarm.

    Second he barely used many vamp abilitiees in that video he is a dk emperor tank with 2 pocket healers. Give me a break that videp has nothing to do with vampire.

    If anything they should nerf teamwork. God forbid he have two friends heal him and spam resto staff ward on him....

    Learn to play

    Also dont focus fire pvp tanks he didnt kill a single player in that video he just stood still and soaked up dmg while his team dps freely rained on your zerg.

  • rwood0604_ESO
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    Nijjion wrote: »

    no one but an emperor can spam ultimates repeatedly...

    Saw Pryda on his stream spam the swarm ult the other day and he wasn't emperor... Just so you know.
    Nijjion wrote: »

    no one but an emperor can spam ultimates repeatedly...

    Saw Pryda on his stream spam the swarm ult the other day and he wasn't emperor... Just so you know.

    only an vampire emperor has 0 ultimate with out it the lowest you can get is 4 and thats because a armor set is also broken which is suppose to take 3% off spells but it also takes off your ultimate if that didnt the lowest you could make your ultimate would be 10 so technically it isn't spamming
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