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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Is it fair ZOS don't allow us to use our sets?

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  • UntouchableHunter
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    No. They could just give us a no proc set campaign
    DoccEff wrote: »
    Just give us a procset-enabled campaign and everyone can play the way they want to.

    Yes they could and rage in the forum would vanish.
  • Sahidom
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    The difference between a renter and owner. Renter has to accept owner decisions. Owner may do what they want because it's their property.
  • UntouchableHunter
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    No. They could just give us a no proc set campaign
    Sahidom wrote: »
    The difference between a renter and owner. Renter has to accept owner decisions. Owner may do what they want because it's their property.

    Some players are giving similar answers.

    If the owner rent you a house with furniture and one day he come to you and tells that in 48 hours he will take off 95% the furniture and you think it is fair, good luck for you.

    And the situation is worst here.

    Because imagine that he gave you tools to fix and improve all the furniture that you have and you spent money and hours fixing and improving the furnitures and now the furniture just gone.

    No. You guys really don't think it is fair, you guys are only accepting this because you don't like procs and don't understand that giving this precedent to ZOS the next step could be the ban your mounts, you furnitures, your houses, other sets, everything and you accept that? No way.
    Edited by UntouchableHunter on 13 March 2021 15:22
  • CSose
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    No. They could just give us a no proc set campaign
    Sahidom wrote: »
    The difference between a renter and owner. Renter has to accept owner decisions. Owner may do what they want because it's their property.

    Renters have rights too. The property owner doesn't have free will to do literally whatever they want.
  • UntouchableHunter
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    No. They could just give us a no proc set campaign
    CSose wrote: »
    Sahidom wrote: »
    The difference between a renter and owner. Renter has to accept owner decisions. Owner may do what they want because it's their property.

    Renters have rights too. The property owner doesn't have free will to do literally whatever they want.

    Exactly. The people that are accepting this situation just don't like procs.

    I really wana sse what happen with ZOS take off all stats sets and we have all the campaigns with only proc sets.

    I wouldn't accept that.

    But I would like to see the same players here that are saying that ZOS can do everything that they want, keep their opinions without stats sets 😉
  • Gilvoth
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    Yes. They can do everything that they want and I will accept
    UntouchableHunter wrote: »
    Dr_Ganknstein wrote: »
    Goregrinder wrote: »
    Princessrhaenyra wrote: »
    Thraben wrote: »
    It is fair, if the rule applies to everyone, by definition.

    It is unfair in a way that it uneccessarily forces people to abide who could as well fight in their own Proc campaign.

    We can speak about "pure" justice versus a more utilitarian approach.

    Their decision is JUST, but is probably not GOOD. That's a difference.

    By the way, IF you create a biased poll, please don't give accidentally an alternative answer that is true. It IS their game, after all, even if I personally would have preferred a seperate No-Proc campaign for those who want it.

    Just give us the separation. I don't want to play the way you are suggesting pvp should be. So don't make me conform to your idea of fun.
    I think adding a hard counter to procs would be a better answer, rather than separate the player base even more.

    What's a hard counter as apposed to just a counter? Like for me if I get proced by venomous smite I'll cloak and heal until it goes away because I don't have purge. Caluurions is pretty crazy and I can get killed fast by that so I just have to be more watchful. If I'm going against a block necro I need to catch them in an open area where I have room to hit and keep moving. I'd consider all these as normal counters. Or maybe they can make snakeblood negate proc damage and then they won't have to nerf proc damage so pve wouldn't be effected.

    ALL the procs are so obvious how to counter, but some people just wana hit dswing and Executioner and doesn't matter if they stay in the red circle the enemy will heal, they just wana still smashing the buttons. They call their self "skilled" players.

    that is exactly the truth.
    well said.
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