MrDenimChicken wrote: »

If you guys don't want procs to be so egregious, seems like a simple fix would be just nerf them.

Or you could redesign them. Seems like Procs are essentially ways to add a 13th ability to your skill bar but they don't have to actually be pressed, they just get triggered. What if you made procs a "triggerable" ability that occurs after something, and you have to press those synergy buttons and it costs resources. Then you don't have random people surviving just because crimson came to the rescue. They would actually have to react and press a button. Or how about the procs just modify specific skills and turn them into like a somewhat different skill. Or you could change damage scaling so that the lack of a weapon/spell damage set hurts your other abilities a ton.

Just think how much different procs would be if velidreth was something you had to weave into a rotation, or zaan was like the soul assault ult. It would totally change them, and then you would just have to balance those procs based on how powerful they are relative to other abilities.

Here is the thing as you are a bit misguided on some aspects of how proc sets are designed.

Generally speaking, the value of a proc occupies the space of the power budget of a set bonus. It does not equate to having an additional button on your bar for throughput. If your 5pc set bonus adds a flat raw spell damage bonus to all your abilities, you simply engage with your general gameplan and gain the benefit of power that set b to bonus is providing. If your 5pc set bonus is a chunk of damage every x seconds when you do action y, you are gaining the same yeild bunched into a tighter window with a longer cadence. Thing is, if you are doing action y anyways, your gameplay does not change.

With the flat damage set bonus, say over the course of 6 GCDs you would be gaining the same yeild as the proc set bonus that occurs every 6 seconds. The later procing off of light attacks or on ability activation for example is no different from what you are already doing anyways. In pvp burst damage is obviously more appealing than sustained damage over more GCDs but that has nothing to do with having a proc set "do the work for you" as many say. If anything one can make the argument that having to be mindful of your proc ICD and playing around lining up your burst damage takes more mental awareness. The hardest build I can think of in recent memory I've played is a magblade with kjalnars, constantly playing around lining up stuns with proc conditions.

Point being is that an ability doing 4000 damage every GCD vs an ability doing 3000 every GCD with a 4k proc every 4 seconds does not change the fact that the player is still staying on top of his weaving and ability uses. Combine that with the fact that most procs in eso have become telegraphed for which players are visually able to identify them and react, means that on paper this is all within reasonable design, especially when you consider that in the above deer cample, each of those 4k hits can crit, and the bonus 4k damage cannot.

The issue here is with malacath affording damage to setups that are otherwise built tanky, at least up until this recent update give or take.

Proc sets dont do any work for anyone or give players damage that would amount to an extra skill on their bar. They simply migrate the damage source that you are generally given in a 5pc set bonus into specifc windows of time. Nearly every proc set condition in game is tied to actions you are already taking when in a fight.