Ayleid ruins house

AefionBloodclaw · January 2021

I just watched Elara Northwind and Purple Rosa's amazing videos of the upcoming Ayleid ruins house, when is ZoS going to listen to players, this house is amazing and beautiful but it's far too big - we are asking for houses that fit the maximum 700 slots not ones that are so insanely big that even using up all the slots you'll still have large areas of bare emptiness. Please stop releasing overly large houses and make smaller ones instead.

RaddlemanNumber7 · January 2021

They said they were getting new servers this year. Maybe that will let them increase the furniture limits. In fact it would be strange if they didn't, and stranger still if they haven't already been factoring that into their house design. We will be able to fill up these big houses eventually

AefionBloodclaw · January 2021

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

They said they were getting new servers this year. Maybe that will let them increase the furniture limits. In fact it would be strange if they didn't, and stranger still if they haven't already been factoring that into their house design. We will be able to fill up these big houses eventually

what?

where did they say that, I must read it...

RaddlemanNumber7 · January 2021

AefionBloodclaw wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

They said they were getting new servers this year. Maybe that will let them increase the furniture limits. In fact it would be strange if they didn't, and stranger still if they haven't already been factoring that into their house design. We will be able to fill up these big houses eventually

what? where did they say that, I must read it...

Matt Firor said it in the reveal, quite near the beginning. Just that we're getting new servers this year. No further details.

Zypheran · February 2021

I totally agree Aefion. I have given up leaving feedback in the PTS forum housing feedback thread. The two most common housing requests from players are ; more slots and stop giving us huge houses that can't be furnished with 700 items.
ZOS say the first is a technical barrier that can't be overcome. Fine, but many of the points people raise to mitigate this limit ARE in their control but they clearly do not implement these solutions. The easiest and most obvious one being to stop releasing houses that are simply far too large to be decorated with only 700 items.
I suspect ZOS believe that by adding in some houses that have 400 or 600 items that they genuinely believe that they are trying to give us smaller homes. What they appear not to understand is that what we actually want is homes with the physical size of a 400-600 property but with a 700 item count. Making physically smaller plots but with less slots does not fix the problem.
I believe this lack of understanding may well stem from devs in this part of the game NOT actually playing housing in game. I often wonder, do any of the housing devs actually try to go into game, farm the plans and mats and then try to decorate these huge 700 item homes?? We know devs in other sections of the game clearly play that part (e.g. PVP and dungeons), but I wonder, how many devs decorate homes in game?

TheImperfect · February 2021

AefionBloodclaw wrote: »

I just watched Elara Northwind and Purple Rosa's amazing videos of the upcoming Ayleid ruins house, when is ZoS going to listen to players, this house is amazing and beautiful but it's far too big - we are asking for houses that fit the maximum 700 slots not ones that are so insanely big that even using up all the slots you'll still have large areas of bare emptiness. Please stop releasing overly large houses and make smaller ones instead.

I visited on the pts and it gives the first impression of being massive but the indoor furnishing areas are actually not that big. There is a small side room. A large room with pool which doesn't really require much except around the sides but gives the feeling of being big because of the pool. A pretty big upper room but not excessively big for a 700 house and the top viewing and pool area which doesn't have that much room for furniture it's mainly pools. Aside from that a couple of pretty small ruined platforms out front that don't need much.
Sure if you want to build everywhere and add on and fill the cave up it might require blocking off but I think this house is well designed with regards to furnishing.

BTW I'm all for the item limit being raised, struggled with it myself sometimes and it would be great to be able to properly feel like a home was finished.

Seminolegirl1992 · February 2021

There is a plus and down side to these houses being too large for smaller furnishing limits. But as a roleplayer, I see an opportunity for a house designed less for actual housing purposes and more for a scenario (ruins, dungeons, caves, camps, etc). Some of the coolest homes have a ruined look to them.

Nelphy · February 2021

Zypheran wrote: »

I totally agree Aefion. I have given up leaving feedback in the PTS forum housing feedback thread. The two most common housing requests from players are ; more slots and stop giving us huge houses that can't be furnished with 700 items.
ZOS say the first is a technical barrier that can't be overcome. Fine, but many of the points people raise to mitigate this limit ARE in their control but they clearly do not implement these solutions. The easiest and most obvious one being to stop releasing houses that are simply far too large to be decorated with only 700 items.
I suspect ZOS believe that by adding in some houses that have 400 or 600 items that they genuinely believe that they are trying to give us smaller homes. What they appear not to understand is that what we actually want is homes with the physical size of a 400-600 property but with a 700 item count. Making physically smaller plots but with less slots does not fix the problem.
I believe this lack of understanding may well stem from devs in this part of the game NOT actually playing housing in game. I often wonder, do any of the housing devs actually try to go into game, farm the plans and mats and then try to decorate these huge 700 item homes?? We know devs in other sections of the game clearly play that part (e.g. PVP and dungeons), but I wonder, how many devs decorate homes in game?

It clearly comes down to pushing people to buy the biggest most expensive preimium houses then making the player feel forced to spend money buying furnishings when players struggles to fill them due to how grindy the crafting system it. I think this is pretty dumb as there are plenty of players who would be happy paying for multiple smaller houses which feel much more like a home than a oversized ego mansion.

Managment are clearly pushing the whale market (people who spend loads) over getting any money at all from most players who want to spend a more moderate ammount/get a more moderate house. The sad part is its not just to the cost of people with stacks of cash who can afford it. I know someone who traded in his PS4 as he could not affored the mental price for one of these premium houses. No big supprise, the guy instantly regretted it.

chuck-18_ESO · February 2021

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

There is a plus and down side to these houses being too large for smaller furnishing limits. But as a roleplayer, I see an opportunity for a house designed less for actual housing purposes and more for a scenario (ruins, dungeons, caves, camps, etc). Some of the coolest homes have a ruined look to them.

Someone else finally gets it! Not every "home" needs to be a simple house! I, for one, am super excited to build this Ayleid ruin as an actual ruin, and not as a home at all!

Zypheran · February 2021

chuck-18_ESO wrote: »

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

There is a plus and down side to these houses being too large for smaller furnishing limits. But as a roleplayer, I see an opportunity for a house designed less for actual housing purposes and more for a scenario (ruins, dungeons, caves, camps, etc). Some of the coolest homes have a ruined look to them.

Someone else finally gets it! Not every "home" needs to be a simple house! I, for one, am super excited to build this Ayleid ruin as an actual ruin, and not as a home at all!

To be fair, I think most housing enthusiasts appreciate this point. I doubt anyone would not want to see ANY very large homes. I lot of people make villages which also best suit large homes. I suppose the issue is that it seems to be EVERY 700 item house lately is enormous. In the interest of variety, I think that people would just like to see more smaller properties that still have 700 items.

Araneae6537 · February 2021

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

There is a plus and down side to these houses being too large for smaller furnishing limits. But as a roleplayer, I see an opportunity for a house designed less for actual housing purposes and more for a scenario (ruins, dungeons, caves, camps, etc). Some of the coolest homes have a ruined look to them.

I totally agree! I don’t like it when a house or other building is too big for the item limit but ruins, caves or natural features that already look good are fine, IMHO.

Besides the price, I changed my mind about purchasing Topal Hideaway because of all the existing architecture that I would have to furnish to make it look decent and not empty. Whereas I had planned to buy it if there hd been little to no architecture but an island with attractive natural features — then I would have just added elements to customize and used most of the furnishing slots my own thing.

In any case, I am certainly all for increasing the furnishing slot limits!!!