Out of all the skills in all the skill trees I have to say that Firey Reach is probably the worst positioned skill out of all of them.

Firey Reach is a fantastic skill when used properly within group combat. Useful for the initial pull or yanking back a mob that's decided to take a nibble of the healer, but outside of that it's one of the most annoying skills for anyone who's not the DK in question that you can come across.

Being one of the first skills that you can get in the DK skill trees most players end up using the skill constantly in single play. By the time they get into proper group play, or areas containing lots of players most DKs will have gotten into bad habits, not realising how irritating it is for other melee characters to have your target yanked half way across the room and having to chase after it.

IMO Firey Reach should be moved further up the skill tree, at the minimum Firey Reach and Searing Strikes should swap places, that way DKs will have had some sort of chance to learn about group dynamics before getting this skill, or developing bad habits. Unlikely to happen, and certainly not going to stop abuse of the skill, but it should lessen the impact somewhat.

I just find it incredibly obnoxious when I'm happily wailing away at a mob by myself, have it almost dead and some DK runs up out of nowhere and yanks it away from me causing me to mix my execute or some other skill.

It can also cause issues with mobs resetting.
Case in point: I was running around with a friend of mine and we decided to engage one of the world bosses on the coast. We had the thing down to around 10% health and of course, some random DK runs up out of the blue, yanks it out into the water and caused it to reset so we had to start it all over again from full health.

I know it's not a huge deal, but it can be really irritating.

Haha! Yes this skill winds me up no end!

It's always just when i'm swinging a twohanded uppercut or something and look like an idiot swinging my weapon at nothing. Or most of all when i'm waiting for a solo dungeon boss to spawn and some newcomer to the place yanks him out of reach.

Which reminds me.. Bots in dungeons seem to be now using this skill and waiting a bit away from the spawn to do precisely this so it raises the chance of them getting loot.

Destructive Reach, baby.

Personally I love fiery reach, through I only toy with my DK, where it is misused is in dungeons on the End mob, those DK who bouce the target around make it difficult for other classes to get hits on them for targeting. I have asked more that once in dungeons for DK's to stop pulling the mob away from others. As everyone should have an opportunity to tag and kill mobs. That or we need to start doing more instances.

How many folks here remember the FOTM Death Knights in WoW on release of WOTLK spamming Death Grip? Same thing here.

Not a huge deal I know, but YES, it annoys me to no damn end! Mostly because I'm a territorial killer in MMO's (whose also a whiny baby at times - I'll identify some of those times with an [*] below), and if I killed it from 100% to at least 25%, DON'T YOU F***ING TOUCH IT! MINE, MINE, MINE!!! [*]

But seriously though, try to think of your fellow gamer before leaping into the fray for no reason whatsoever... There are many who prefer seamless grinding of mobs to increase xp gains, and interrupting with that mind-numblingly stupid [*] power is just uncalled for when some classes need that final hit for a magicka and/or health boost... or to look cool for their mental scrapbook entitled "cool sh*t I remember doing and will brag about at every opportunity".

Now, specifically in my case, perhaps when you, bored Dragonknight, came traipsing along with fire in your eyes and nothing to do, I probably had just slaughtered two of a three mob pack and am really needing an Assassin's Blade or a Drain Essence to top me off for my next murderous rampage. Or even more probable: Maybe I just prefer sucking the blood out of my kills before their lifeless bodies fall to the ground, a stunned look of "What the hell just happened? We had him totally outnumbered!" washing over their faces before the silent quietus of death takes them. And YOU, bored Dragonknight, robbed me of that joy... How dare you! [*] How dare all of you!! [*]

I'm sorry, but this is really funny. I do admit that I will occasionally while bored and aimlessly wandering around "kill Snatch" a target. I realize it is extremely annoying, but at the same time to see the other player wiff is a riot. It's my stress release from dealing with a bug, bot, or some other frustrating situation. So I am truly sorry for taking it out on you guys. I will try to do it less.

On the other hand it is a very useful skill at dark anchors. Fiery chain followed by shield bash is a great combo especially with sorc AoE spells that destroy a mob before I get a chance to place a single hit. So it does go both ways. And it is nice to try to steal a kill from boss bots.

Hellkath wrote: »

There's nothing more satisfying then having a DK pull the mob away from you with Fiery Grip, only to pull it right back to yourself afterwerds! .. .happened quite a few times and I couldn't stop laughing maniacally by myself at home!
Muahahah! MUAHAHAHA!!

DK tug-o-war? Video please!

Deathgrip had a cooldown. Fiery Grip doesn't. I wanna see a Three Stooges style DK tug-o-war!

Personally, I love this for pvp, I pull one person on top off a wall and they are either killed by players and mages or they commit suicide.