Why isnt Regeneration on cd?

Firstmep · October 2020

@ZOS_GinaBruno Why is Regeneration not incurring a global cooldown, but my templars self armor buff do?

Regeneration literally has a radius check, smart healing, and can affect multiple targets.

Templars rune focus literally only affects the caster.

Where is the logic here?

Taleof2Cities · October 2020

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

EDIT: OK it is AoE my apologies ...

Firstmep · October 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

I was asking about the logic behind it.

I dont think anyone in their right mind thinks, that restricting a strictly self buff ability will improve performance versus letting one of the worst offenders in terms of lag be used free.

Just like before these tests have started, they should have made a list of abilities like templars rune focus, that dont really have an aoe impact, and made them an exepction.
Definetly not regeneration.

SgtNuttzmeg · October 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

So is purge, so is plenty of other aoes that are on cooldown. Whether or not it is target base does not change the fact that it is an aoe. There are a ton of other examples of skills like this and all of them are on cooldown. REgeneration is the one exception. It is also the single most spammed.

Firstmep · October 2020

SgtNuttzmeg wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

So is purge, so is plenty of other aoes that are on cooldown. Whether or not it is target base does not change the fact that it is an aoe. There are a ton of other examples of skills like this and all of them are on cooldown. REgeneration is the one exception. It is also the single most spammed.

Yes, beacuse it has smart healing enabled, it needs to do a radius check to find the lowest health target(s) to apply the hot to.

So it is as much of an aoe as rune focus which does a radius check to see if the casting templar is inside.

I wonder which one cause more server calculations tho..

alterfenixeb17_ESO · October 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

I do not recall myself having to ensure that I am targeting any friendly player in order to use that skill which as the matter of fact brings back question if this is really target based skill. Also it hits up to 3 targets which makes it aoe as well. But let us agree to not go this direction indeed as it would be just providing reasons to include other stuff (like I believe Puncturing Sweep is not as of yet affected).

Ranger209 · October 2020

Firstmep wrote: »

SgtNuttzmeg wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

So is purge, so is plenty of other aoes that are on cooldown. Whether or not it is target base does not change the fact that it is an aoe. There are a ton of other examples of skills like this and all of them are on cooldown. REgeneration is the one exception. It is also the single most spammed.

Yes, beacuse it has smart healing enabled, it needs to do a radius check to find the lowest health target(s) to apply the hot to.

So it is as much of an aoe as rune focus which does a radius check to see if the casting templar is inside.

I wonder which one cause more server calculations tho..

this is absolutely the worst kind of AoE skill, doing a 28 meter radius check searching for a target.

Kwoung · October 2020

Radiating Regen is the single source of many of the issues in Cyrodiil. Why they have refused to listen to feedback about it for years, or include it in these tests is beyond me. It should have been the very first test, remove it stacking and do not allow it 's timer to be refreshed... you can have another cast on you after your current one expires. Or, make it single target self only so healers are needed more than 6+ mag DPS spamming their back bar.

FENGRUSH · October 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

It is an AoE. This is incorrect. It does receive a cooldown. It doesnt when refreshing. It is a bug in the test controls. And it's also the most used skill in cyrodiil.

Firstmep · October 2020

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Be sure you're reading the test details carefully, @Firstmep.

Regeneration is target-based.

Rune focus is AoE.

It is an AoE. This is incorrect. It does receive a cooldown. It doesnt when refreshing. It is a bug in the test controls. And it's also the most used skill in cyrodiil.

I wonder how they can gather meaningful data when one of the worst offenders essentially bypasses the cooldown.

techyeshic · October 2020

Is it any real surprise that something might not be coded right for this? I'm surprised we haven't seen a lot more by the 6th week.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · October 2020

In a group it's always going to have a cooldown 99% of the time (unless you are in a 3m group and keep the timer up)

Kartalin · October 2020

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

In a group it's always going to have a cooldown 99% of the time (unless you are in a 3m group and keep the timer up)

With 4 people in group, the chance of hitting the same three is 25%.

5 man: 10%
6 man: 5%
7 man:

% (less than 3% lol)
8 man: <2%
...
12 man: <.0.5%

Garbage ZOS RNG notwithstanding.