It's a PvP zone. Just like a dungeon requires PvE

I'm not using the ring for PVP. I don't PVP at all. All of my characters are strictly for PVE.

BuildMan wrote: »

Why can't I buy my leads with AP?

That would be nice but honestly, I would settle for being able to go into a PVP area with some kind of 'mercenary' status or something like that. Make me allied with everyone and unable to take part in PVP content like capturing areas. That way I can farm in peace without upsetting the balance of PVP gameplay.

I still want to get it and try it for myself. See the reply above yours.

Why do you need a new thread?

After years of complaints every single Imperial City Celebration and Midyear Mayhem, ZOS didn't suddenly forget that some PVE-only players hate IC with the fire of a thousand flame atronachs when it came time for Antiquities.

I'd be okay with a story-only PVE IC for thr players who really only want to explore and quest.

But ZOS fully intended for you to get rewards like the IC antiquities lead with the risk of PVP.

BlackKnight556 wrote: »

The_Camper wrote: »

Oh I don't like PVE at all. Can I get all the weapon drops of the next DLC arena without playing it, please? I promise I will strictly use them for pvp

Not relevant. I want the drops and I want to farm the bosses for the drops. I just don't want to worry about getting ganked by enemy players while doing it. It's already hard enough to farm for these things without having to worry about getting killed by enemy players. All I want to do is farm leads.

Enemy players aren't "extra" hazards you have to worry about that should be removed so you can get on with your PVE. In a PvPvE zone like Imperial City, Enemy players are fully intended sources of risk, with ZOS encouraging conflicts around bosses by tying them into the Tel Var system.

Sort of like how in PVE arenas, the bosses themselves are the intended sources of risk. Hence the "whelp, if you want to remove an intended source of risk in PvPvE (the players), then I should be able to remove an intended source of risk in PVE (the boss)" comments.

Would that completely neuter the point of the PVE arena?
Yeah, pretty much.

Would removing enemy players completely neuter the original concept of Imperial City as a PvPvE zone?
Yeah, pretty much.

At a certain point, you'll have to consider whether its worth adapting to Imperial City as it was designed or to continue asking for it to be nerfed into just another PVE zone so you can farm your leads.

The_Camper wrote: »

Oh I don't like PVE at all. Can I get all the weapon drops of the next DLC arena without playing it, please? I promise i will strictly use them for pvp

Imagine you're doing an arena, you've been through it 3 or 4 times trying to get one particular item and you are in the final phase, just moments away from completing it, and suddenly [snip] comes in and kills you 'because they can' and runs off and you have to start the whole thing all over again.

This is the frustration that PVE players face when trying to farm Antiquity leads or do other PVE content in Cyrodiil and Imperial city. Saw one guy solo a dolmen in Cyrodiil and get the last boss to double-digit hp before he was ganked and screwed out of any rewards. There is literal PVE content placed in these zones. I shouldn't have to worry about getting ganked while doing them. I can decline duels in PVE zones. You should be able to deal with not being able to kill every player you come across.

[Edit for censor bypass.]