I love not having name plates. Just let it go. The game is so much better without having to see that Tugg McNutts just ran by..

No nameplates

Eliran wrote: »

As said above, the nameplates are VITAL for the game, I don't understand why would you ignore such a majority of the player base?

I don't accept the excuse of immersion, its just stupid, I believe that MANY MORE will simply quit eventually without such feature.

Its like ZeniMax on purpose want the game to fall down, the game has HUGE potential, it is obviouslly 10 times better than WoW but those small things which prevent you from having social life in the game are going to be its downfall.

It is NOT fun to play alone.

We feel like running around empty shells, I can't even recall who is next to me, I haven't made a single friend around as I can't communicate with ANYONE AROUND ME and therefore I haven't made a single new friend so far who I didn't knew before the game launched.

More further, the idea of that I have to run after someone just to ask for help in order to whisper them, people IGNORE /say/yell, check statistics and I believe 98% of the players don't even use them as their 100% useless if you don't know who around of all the empty shells said them.

For example:
I had a problem with some Quest, I wanted to ask for help and I found my self running after at least 6 people in order to be close enough to them to even ask them to help me out but I failed and had to wait for another guy to do the quest as well in order to achieve it and even then without saying a single word to each other, not just it DOES NOT reflect any real life element, its make the game look lonely and robotic.

Do not ignore us and add the feature back as soon as possible, every day cause damage to the majority of the players.

I could not disagree with you more.

There is nothing stupid about it. Your narrow-minded view does you a disservice.
Additionally there is not one thing, not one in your post that backs up your claim that they are 'vital' to game play. You pull numbers out of the air with not justification of them whatsoever, and use emotive text and terms rather than anything substantially quantitative.

Honestly, my feeling is it's just different, and rather than adapt to the change you'd rather whine about it. I honestly feel sorry for you if that's the case. Your post is a form of therapy perhaps, and I have a feeling that even after writing it you felt a little better and calmer. One can hope.

Hallo guys,

I just wanted to give my opinion about the game in the current state lvl 43 atm, and of the name plates.

I just find this insane that an MMO like this has no name plates, I mean i could stand near my guild mates and i won't know who they are. It just takes the feeling away that this is an MMO. And sorry to say this, it is utterly BS from the DEV Team to keep it out really at least make it optional turn it on/off and ppl are happy. But beside those BADLY wanted nameplates there i so much more where the DEV team just fails badly, like the DUP bugg since beta in game... further on those god damn bugged quests are really getting to u at some point sooner or later, trust me at first its like this is just an new MMO can happen then after 40 bugged quest and random error crashes u just lose the fun to continue playing. I am just shocked, this game was never ready for RELEASE. Seems like when the Console version's hit it will be kinda fixed at least such a feeling i have. There already ppl leaving this game for those immature decisions of ESO DEV team, i mean its such a great game why oh why they are just not fixing those issues and giving the player base what they want. Those server maintenance's have not in slightest resolved any major issues, we just can pray that ESO DEV team knows what they are doing.. and if it takes to long it will be a disaster not to mention the new content that is coming next month. I pray to the Loregods that that content will be polished at least and bug free raiding, but i kinda have a feeling it won't because of the fixing they done such far is not convincing enough for many players..

Sorry guys to let it out like this i just love this game so much and seeing it getting slowly destroyed buy a egoistic DEV team that thinks there way is the only way. Will be the nail in the coffin for them and layoff's will follow by end of this year pretty sure if bugs, build stores, nameplates, random crashes, will not get fixed.

Daehir wrote: »

You mean like the nameplates we have irl?

In life most people do have nameplates...food service, most retail, in an office building you likely have a badge as well, I do...so yes, just like we have in real life.

Your attempt at snarky has failed...do not pass go, do not collect $200.

What in seven hells is a name-plate...

Name plates are not vital have been playint the game great with out them thx.

galiumb16_ESO wrote: »

If you do not want name plates then you simply do not turn them on, there is no need to be campaigning against them because they do not impact you in a negative fashion.

There are a lot of features I could chime in on that I dislike, but since others like them and it does not impact me, I am content to stay out of the discussion. If everyone followed this approach, these discussions would be a lot more pleasant.

Well actually in a PvP sense I could very well campaign against them. Something that people who keep saying there is no reason never address that in PvP it does give a distinct advantage. This was stated earlier, hiding behind bushes and using stealth instead of everyone having a huge nameplate above their head. It forces everyone to turn them on because if one person has them then he has an advantage over everyone else. That destroys pvp imho and it is now no different than WoW, Rift, AoC, etc.

However, if you could come to an agreement that they should be disabled in PvP or another solution such as having a glow around friendly char's and no nameplates or anything that gives away enemies then I think more of the nay sayers might agree with you. The option to turn them off and on isnt so black and white when you consider the game in its entirety.

*edit* I read some more and see it was discussed, and no, the pvp argument can come up over and over as long as people are saying options are good and there is no reason to not want them. Your comments in this thread (i read most of it but got bored) could be less drastic and more accurate. I think people would agree with you guys more if you werent so.... dumb about presenting the idea. Hollow threats about leaving, saying its destroying the game, eluding to the majority, etc. Holy moly. This is like tabloids for MMO's.

falkynsub17_ESO wrote: »

lonetac wrote: »

Secondly when I am in PvP and I go around the corner of an obstacle I don't want you to be able to see me: it doesn't matter to me whether you are on my side or not. Period. I don't want you to be able to flick a switch and see a third of my bright blue or red nameplate: not now not ever.

Um what about that big ol' health bar and alliance symbol that is already above your head? That's no problem? but adding your name is just too far? I don't know if it disappears when your character model is out of sight or not, but wouldn't your name disappear too? Also your health bar disappears when you are sneaking. Why wouldn't a name?

Sorry the whole "Dios mio! Nameplates will ruin PvP!!!" is just an invalid argument unless you take away the health bar as well.

All those who support my claim please also vote in here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/79526/name-plate-poll-in-elder-scrolls/p1

Vote that We DO want name plates in Elder Scrolls Online.

I'm still laughing about this issue. Allow me to make one minor tweek to the OPs opening statement, and then we shall continue. "Nameplates are VITAL for gameplay for myself and others like me who play the game they way I/we do"

Yes, he put it out there that everyone does or should play the game the same way he does, which simply isn't true. I have a guildie that downloaded the full immersion addon that removes EVERYTHING from the UI. He won't play any other way. Me? I turn on every last bit of information I can get. Does this make me better than him? Or him better than me? No! We just play the game differently, and most importantly, for different reasons. He plays to escape real life and immerse himself in a fantasy world. If he can get 2-3 hours a night in where he doesn't have to think about work, bills, the old ball and chain, etc., he's happy as hell. Me? I play the game for the socialization. My guild and I have a great time, and I love meeting new people and adding them to our fun group. And then I love going with that fun group and trying to tackle the hardest content the game has to offer. A lack of nameplates hinders both of my objectives, while it benfits my solo guildie immensely.

Please allow me to debunk all the silly little reasons that keep popping up over and over about why we shouldn't have optional nameplates.

This isn't WoW, if you want nameplates, go back to WoW

This one probably cracks me up the most. WoW didn't invent nameplates. Nameplates have been in EVERY. SINGLE. MMO. IN. HISTORY. Dating back nearly 10 years before WoW was even thought of. I could just as easily tell you, if you want a single player Elder Scrolls, go back to Skyrim! This isn't single player, it's multiplayer, and a sizeable chunk of the player base wants to play it as a multiplayer game. Nameplates drive, facilitate, and benefit the social aspects of MMOs, always have.


Nameplates give an advantage in PvP, and therefor wouldn't really be "optional"

Another good one. So you say that you can't hide behind a tree with nameplates because the plate would stick out around the side of the tree and get you caught? So, putting aside the fact that everyone can stealth in this game, and hiding behind a tree for an ambush without being in stealth would be patently idiotic. Let's talk about a little thing called healthbars. They hover over your head and are signifiganty wider than your character, and I have them turned on, and I've already caught numerous patently idiotic guys trying to hide behind a tree without stealthing because their healthbar gave them away. So, by this logic you've put yourself at a massive disadvantage by not having healthbars on. And of course, if you do have healthbars on, then your immersion is ruined. Quite the catch 22.


I don't have nameplates in RL!!!!!

You're right...well, you're wrong, but you're right. There are not nameplates floating over people's heads. People's nameplates are their completely unique facial structure that your eyes see and your brain instantly parses and recognizes and tells you who that person is, even at a glance a fraction of a second long. Roughly the same amount of time it takes to read a nameplate. It takes significantly more effort to stop what you're doing, mouse over a guy, move your eyes to the top of the screen and then read to be able to recognize someone. Doing all that in a town really isn't a big deal. Doing it while I'm trying to fight a frigging massive spider is a really big deal. This doesn't even take into account the many many many other things this game has that aren't in RL that should be totally destroying your immersions but some reason don't.

If nameplates are optional, all guild will force people to use them, so they wouldn't really be optional

I've been doing MMOs for just about as long as MMOs have been around (not bragging, just saying) and I NEVER, not ONCE seen a guild leader/raid leader/anyone ever, tell someone that to be in their guild/raid, you have to turn on nameplates. I've seen a few raid leaders (and I mean less than a handful) over the years suggest it to people in raids as a way to help recognize various mobs. The last MMO I was playing before this one was SWTOR, I ran a very successful progression guild. We just about fell over in shock about 5 days before ESO release, we were all in TS complaining about the lack of nameplates, and our very best DPS says "huh, don't see why that's a big deal, I've never had them on". This guy...as melee DPS who GETS IT DONE wasn't using the nameplates and no one ever had a clue. Clearly, all the other DPS in our progression team who aspired to be like him weren't getting any advantage from nameplates. It's a myth, perpetuated by people who want to force people to play the game the same way they do.


For the record, I'm pro optional nameplates. I think the best solution would just be for ZoS to open up that portion of the addon API and let the modders have at it. That way the immersion crowd would have to actively go looking outside the game for any chance of ruining their immersion. And I'm fine with having enemy player nameplates still blocked. I just want all people to be able to play the game the way that they have fun.

brice.marcumub17_ESO wrote: »

I'm still laughing about this issue. Allow me to make one minor tweek to the OPs opening statement, and then we shall continue. "Nameplates are VITAL for gameplay for myself and others like me who play the game they way I/we do"

Yes, he put it out there that everyone does or should play the game the same way he does, which simply isn't true. I have a guildie that downloaded the full immersion addon that removes EVERYTHING from the UI. He won't play any other way. Me? I turn on every last bit of information I can get. Does this make me better than him? Or him better than me? No! We just play the game differently, and most importantly, for different reasons. He plays to escape real life and immerse himself in a fantasy world. If he can get 2-3 hours a night in where he doesn't have to think about work, bills, the old ball and chain, etc., he's happy as hell. Me? I play the game for the socialization. My guild and I have a great time, and I love meeting new people and adding them to our fun group. And then I love going with that fun group and trying to tackle the hardest content the game has to offer. A lack of nameplates hinders both of my objectives, while it benfits my solo guildie immensely.

Please allow me to debunk all the silly little reasons that keep popping up over and over about why we shouldn't have optional nameplates.

This isn't WoW, if you want nameplates, go back to WoW

This one probably cracks me up the most. WoW didn't invent nameplates. Nameplates have been in EVERY. SINGLE. MMO. IN. HISTORY. Dating back nearly 10 years before WoW was even thought of. I could just as easily tell you, if you want a single player Elder Scrolls, go back to Skyrim! This isn't single player, it's multiplayer, and a sizeable chunk of the player base wants to play it as a multiplayer game. Nameplates drive, facilitate, and benefit the social aspects of MMOs, always have.


Nameplates give an advantage in PvP, and therefor wouldn't really be "optional"

Another good one. So you say that you can't hide behind a tree with nameplates because the plate would stick out around the side of the tree and get you caught? So, putting aside the fact that everyone can stealth in this game, and hiding behind a tree for an ambush without being in stealth would be patently idiotic. Let's talk about a little thing called healthbars. They hover over your head and are signifiganty wider than your character, and I have them turned on, and I've already caught numerous patently idiotic guys trying to hide behind a tree without stealthing because their healthbar gave them away. So, by this logic you've put yourself at a massive disadvantage by not having healthbars on. And of course, if you do have healthbars on, then your immersion is ruined. Quite the catch 22.


I don't have nameplates in RL!!!!!

You're right...well, you're wrong, but you're right. There are not nameplates floating over people's heads. People's nameplates are their completely unique facial structure that your eyes see and your brain instantly parses and recognizes and tells you who that person is, even at a glance a fraction of a second long. Roughly the same amount of time it takes to read a nameplate. It takes significantly more effort to stop what you're doing, mouse over a guy, move your eyes to the top of the screen and then read to be able to recognize someone. Doing all that in a town really isn't a big deal. Doing it while I'm trying to fight a frigging massive spider is a really big deal. This doesn't even take into account the many many many other things this game has that aren't in RL that should be totally destroying your immersions but some reason don't.

If nameplates are optional, all guild will force people to use them, so they wouldn't really be optional

I've been doing MMOs for just about as long as MMOs have been around (not bragging, just saying) and I NEVER, not ONCE seen a guild leader/raid leader/anyone ever, tell someone that to be in their guild/raid, you have to turn on nameplates. I've seen a few raid leaders (and I mean less than a handful) over the years suggest it to people in raids as a way to help recognize various mobs. The last MMO I was playing before this one was SWTOR, I ran a very successful progression guild. We just about fell over in shock about 5 days before ESO release, we were all in TS complaining about the lack of nameplates, and our very best DPS says "huh, don't see why that's a big deal, I've never had them on". This guy...as melee DPS who GETS IT DONE wasn't using the nameplates and no one ever had a clue. Clearly, all the other DPS in our progression team who aspired to be like him weren't getting any advantage from nameplates. It's a myth, perpetuated by people who want to force people to play the game the same way they do.


For the record, I'm pro optional nameplates. I think the best solution would just be for ZoS to open up that portion of the addon API and let the modders have at it. That way the immersion crowd would have to actively go looking outside the game for any chance of ruining their immersion. And I'm fine with having enemy player nameplates still blocked. I just want all people to be able to play the game the way that they have fun.

Wow nice job and very balanced look at things. I can appreciate that.

Yeah people saying that nameplates would give away their position in AvA really irked me. Nobody seems to realize they have health bars over there head already. They only response I got when point it out several times was "Nameplates are already in the game, just cursor over the person".......seriously?

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Eliran wrote: »

All those who support my claim please also vote in here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/79526/name-plate-poll-in-elder-scrolls/p1

Vote that We DO want name plates in Elder Scrolls Online.

Lol its been proven over and over most want no nameplates. It'll be nice in a week no longer seeing these threads.

If you bother to read the comments most of the people who voted NO said they would be okay with them if they were optional.

I just finished my second day of gaming. And it was rough...... day 1 I could not tell the difference between who was PC and NPC.

Please add the option for name plates......communication is easier