it's ok, zos is gamers as well, they play eso....and understand how frustrated we are....according to them.

Fixes on the way.......

could we get anymore lip service from zos?
Half a year of fixes and the game performs worse than ever.

I used to care as about *** the game performed, now i dont and I dont play as much.....easy fixed

although sometimes it still bugs me that I pay a company that does so little to improve their game.

Chevaliemew wrote: »

Lag is mostly occuring due to the high number of calculation required to make all the sets and skills procs work. The less calcualtion, the smoother the PVP experience. What can Zenimax do? I can't stress enough how simple that is to solve. It's incredible, that it haven't been even tried for so many years of constant lagfest. Also, I have already heard of that solution years ago.

Hear me out and imagine.

PVP campaign with restrictions. That's what we need. Just let people use sets that provide raw stats and effects. Why first patches after 1.6 were so smooth? All people used were crafting sets along the lines of: Hundings, Kagrenac, TBS, Seducer. That would also help to deal with overal tankiness META since there would be less sets supporting heavy armor. Obviously skills should also be reworked accordingly to reduce amount of proc mechanics as well. Hard to say how should one deal with CP sytem tho. No CP version would definitely run so much smoother but CP system could also get adjusted accordingly. Enchants and poisons? Enchants were always in the game and they would better be kept in, but poisons could definitely go.

It's not just performance that would benefit from it. Enviroment would be so much more balanced due to the lack of overperforming sets. More skill based gameplay is always welcome in MMO.

They tried piloted no cp cyrodiil. It DID NOT help all. It's not all the calculations, like they'd hoped it was. While more does make it worse, it's still unplayable in a no cp environment.

Played right through prime time on pc/eu Ravenwatch yesterday,and it really does turn into a complete farce at times with people only able to light attack or bash each other to death.

Decided to stick around for a while after midnight which is something i haven't done for many many months,and the game literally transformed itself.Skills worked and fired exactly as they should with zero lag,obviously due to low population.

Such a shame the way Cyrodiil plays most of the time now.

No-CP, PC EU last night was actually relly playable.

Sure, bit highish ping during 3 sword battle, but not unplayable at any point! Was fun!

Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »

But, according to so many people here, cyrodil is unfit for purpose. If they can't or won't fix it, why keep it?

1. TES Lore purposes. Which btw is the sole reason why

2. ZoS could've justified mutating the single player TES game in order to create this MMO.

The existence of PvP in Cyrodil owes its existence to the Alliance faction wars. Cyrodil itself owes its existence to the Interregnum which shaped how all TES games evolved since TES I: Arena. We get better insight into the need why the Mages guild (and other guilds) were created in this era.

Because without the justification of the historic Interregnum era (complete with the ascension of Manimarco and the birth of his Worm Cult) ESO wouldn't have had a logical fan base leg to stand on when ZoS created it 6 years ago.

Another important reason is allowing players to RP/PvP/PvE in this mythic era, gives the fan base a better appreciation for the single player TES games which came after the historic events in this era since TES I: Arena. Examples: Being a first hand witness to the Planemeld as your soul was enslaved by Molag Bal in Coldharbor. Being able to join and interact with the mages of the Psijic Order. The unique ability to visit Artaeum/Alinor thorugh the Summerset DLC. See how this lore affects Tamriel overall.

Being able to witness firsthand how Mannimarco's treachery corrupted the emperor. The privilege of meeting and joining the 5 companions. Being able to meet mythical heroes the likes of Lyris Titanborn, Sai Sahan, and caustic Abnur Tharn in the flesh. Finally getting to understand why historic arch enemies the likes of Vanus Galerion and Mannimarco came to be due to Mannimarco's treachery etc etc.

But perhaps playing TES in this period is most important for TES IV: Oblivion. In which you get reunited with Mannimarco, your 1000 yr old+ nemesis for a final time. And receive the privilege of permanently sending his presumptuous, arrogant, un-dead Liche King [censored] off in true Psijic mage style

Mayrael wrote: »

Cyrodiil will be closed, maybe not in the nearest future but sooner or later it will happen. ZOS has no plans to fix it, people are relinquishing Cyrodiil because of lags, and ZOS will explain closing Cyrodiil "because people lost interest in it", yeah sure... There is no money in Cyrodiil, only problems. I love Cyro PvP, I started playing ESO because of it, but issues we face are completely ignored, it can't last forever like this.

Closing it will be a terrible decision.
Poor & near unplayable Cyrodiil PVP is better than no Cyrodiil at all for many.
I quit PVP but I have some hope that maybe they will fix PVP.
If they will give up on it & scrap it, I and so many others will give up on ESO.

worrallj wrote: »

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

it's ok, zos is gamers as well, they play eso....and understand how frustrated we are....according to them.

Fixes on the way.......

could we get anymore lip service from zos?
Half a year of fixes and the game performs worse than ever.

I used to care as about *** the game performed, now i dont and I dont play as much.....easy fixed

although sometimes it still bugs me that I pay a company that does so little to improve their game.

Stop paying until their focus shifts to what you care about. It's a phenomenal game at it's core and I want to support it, but I think this is the only tool gamers have to set the priorities at a high level.

One problem with this: Playing without ESO Plus is nearly unplayable for serious ESO gamers.
The inventory management is unbearable without ESO Plus, I tried it.

11am EST on a Friday. Main Campaign unplayable. 5 second ability delay. How anybody finds that engaging and fun is unbeknownst to me. I think it finally broke me. I just logged off, not in anger.. I feel relieved. It never changes and Im done looking at potential and hoping for those few moments things work. It never changes. They dont deserve my money anymore.

Love this game, love the mods that are going to delete this, but I don't think it's gonna get any better.

TineaCruris wrote: »

worrallj wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Cyrodiil will be closed, maybe not in the nearest future but sooner or later it will happen. ZOS has no plans to fix it, people are relinquishing Cyrodiil because of lags, and ZOS will explain closing Cyrodiil "because people lost interest in it", yeah sure... There is no money in Cyrodiil, only problems. I love Cyro PvP, I started playing ESO because of it, but issues we face are completely ignored, it can't last forever like this.

Closing it will be a terrible decision.
Poor & near unplayable Cyrodiil PVP is better than no Cyrodiil at all for many.

worrallj wrote: »

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

it's ok, zos is gamers as well, they play eso....and understand how frustrated we are....according to them.

Fixes on the way.......

could we get anymore lip service from zos?
Half a year of fixes and the game performs worse than ever.

I used to care as about *** the game performed, now i dont and I dont play as much.....easy fixed

although sometimes it still bugs me that I pay a company that does so little to improve their game.

Stop paying until their focus shifts to what you care about. It's a phenomenal game at it's core and I want to support it, but I think this is the only tool gamers have to set the priorities at a high level.

One problem with this: Playing without ESO Plus is nearly unplayable for serious ESO gamers.
The inventory management is unbearable without ESO Plus, I tried it.

Another problem is that it may have the opposite effect- if their budget gets tight and pvpers are leaving they may finally close cyrodiil and double-down even further on cash shop gimmicks.

I just don't know how else to influence their priorities. I see ESO going from this grand and elegant thing with massive keep battles and beautiful levels of immersion to the stuff we're getting now with cyrodiil unplayable and absolutely shameless crown store gimmicks, and I want to say "No! I will pay to just to have a working game without all this gaudy bloat!"

It feels like that time is now. It feels like Greymore and the last crown sale was/is the last hurrah before the curtain is pulled back completely and we get to see "the wizard".

Maybe.
Though it was brought up many times over the years and Cyrodiil is still available.
Many believe there are few PVP players, though they are probably make up at least 30% of ESO population.
PVP only players is something else, that's probably at 10%-15%.
Losing 15% of the player base all at once and potentially a lot more due to "Cyrodiil PVP gates closed forever" stunt isn't a smart move and I don't think ZOS intends to do this.

I just canceled my ESO subscription for good and got sent an email address at Bethesda to contact about what I felt about my experience. I will play along and send them what they ask for. The game is unplayable with its performance issues which have quite literally crept into every aspect of the game at some level, none more so than my beloved pvp which is nigh unplayable. I even home the no-CP campaign and performance is still garbage unless theres 5 people on the map. If core combat does not function, you have no game. You have a housing simulator.

on pc/eu around 7.30pm-8pm eu time, i was playing with my group in cyrodill, we attack keep where both opposite faction were there, obviously so many players were there, fight begins and i got dc, log back in ran toward keep, got dc again, log back in for 3rd time, went there got dc again, i became totally useless to my team, joined back when we left the populated area, i mean the whole fun of playing mass pvp is when those big fights happen, people with weak internet will get dc and people with good internet get big lag, so the purpose and whole meaning of mass pvp in cyrodill is dead for most of people because of terrible performance, total failure on ZOS part.

Population now is a fraction of what it was. The unfortunate reality is likely that even if the population for each faction was reduced to half of what it is now, any large fight at one location would cause the same lag. The problem is fundamental and its too late in the day to take it back to the drawing board. Crown store for pve content and baubles makes money ergo no good reason to do anything.

Just spent 2 hours in Cyro - playing with like 10 people group, couldnt fire a single skill on time expect vigor. Cyro could be so much fun if lags will be fixed.

Not only Cyrodiil has bad performance & bugs.
I have an issue with "Pull the Last Fang" quest in Shadowfen... I abandoned it at the last stage on one of my chars and now I can't find the quest giver.
I'm stuck