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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

remove stuns from pvp until breakfree/lag is fixed

Ranger209
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It's just ridiculous right now, breaking free 5, 6, 7 times, however many times you can before dying, without actually breaking free is just nonsense. It takes 3 to 5 seconds to fire skills off, lag itself is enough of a stun in game right now, and it is persistent.
  • Juhasow
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    Without stuns it'll be even more laggy because nobody would die so fights would last way longer and more people would start cumulating in one place.
  • Major_Lag
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    If you remove stuns, you might as well remove the PvP in its entirety - it's not possible to kill a competent player without the use of CCs, outside of heavily outnumbered situations in open field (which is arguably a L2P issue).

    OP, it sounds like you are playing on console or PC-EU? Come over to the dark side (PC-NA), where we have cookies... and relatively no lag :)
  • Ranger209
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    I'm on PC-NA and I'm no longer in Cyro. Popped in for 15 minutes and that was all I could take. Even during 2 bar or less population. There is 0% satisfaction in there right now and 100% frustration.
  • Major_Lag
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    Ranger209 wrote: »
    I'm on PC-NA and I'm no longer in Cyro. Popped in for 15 minutes and that was all I could take. Even during 2 bar or less population. There is 0% satisfaction in there right now and 100% frustration.
    Pop in on PC-EU - if you can even log in at all, that is - and you will quickly learn to appreciate that PC-NA has the best performing Cyrodiil of all the platforms :wink:
  • Cinbri
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    Especially fun when hard CCs now have rng chance to desync you, completely disabling your character.
  • Mr_Walker
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    Ball up, spam fear and s2w, claim greatness.

    The addition of fear to everyone via FG line was an inspired choice. It's helped turn Cyrodiil into what it is today.
  • Kadoin
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    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Ranger209 wrote: »
    I'm on PC-NA and I'm no longer in Cyro. Popped in for 15 minutes and that was all I could take. Even during 2 bar or less population. There is 0% satisfaction in there right now and 100% frustration.
    Pop in on PC-EU - if you can even log in at all, that is - and you will quickly learn to appreciate that PC-NA has the best performing Cyrodiil of all the platforms :wink:

    Please, don't mention PC EU, I am starting to feel sick :D
  • Ranger209
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    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Ranger209 wrote: »
    I'm on PC-NA and I'm no longer in Cyro. Popped in for 15 minutes and that was all I could take. Even during 2 bar or less population. There is 0% satisfaction in there right now and 100% frustration.
    Pop in on PC-EU - if you can even log in at all, that is - and you will quickly learn to appreciate that PC-NA has the best performing Cyrodiil of all the platforms :wink:

    Popped in the other night and was trying to clean up some NPC's inside a keep at the inner door. Skills weren't firing so I tried light attacking. Nothing, fired off about 10 light attacks, not one registered. Tried heavy attacking with a lightning staff, 2 second channel 1 tick registered, 2 second channel 1 tick registered. This was on NPC's no client to server to client required, just client to server. The animation hits them, the full on channel was locked onto them, but 1500 damage for 1 tick of a 2 second heavy attack. I just don't know.

    Back on topic though, like I said the lag right now acts as enough of a constant stun, actual stuns are just a paralyzing death sentence.
  • Major_Lag
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    Ranger209 wrote: »
    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Ranger209 wrote: »
    I'm on PC-NA and I'm no longer in Cyro. Popped in for 15 minutes and that was all I could take. Even during 2 bar or less population. There is 0% satisfaction in there right now and 100% frustration.
    Pop in on PC-EU - if you can even log in at all, that is - and you will quickly learn to appreciate that PC-NA has the best performing Cyrodiil of all the platforms :wink:

    Popped in the other night and was trying to clean up some NPC's inside a keep at the inner door. Skills weren't firing so I tried light attacking. Nothing, fired off about 10 light attacks, not one registered.
    Sounds like fun, if that kind of crap is happening at night. Yikes!

    At least on PC-NA I find it mostly playable - there is still some lag and the occasional weirdness, but not nearly as bad as on PC-EU.
    My ping on NA is also far better, very rarely going above 450. And CC break even works most of the time!
  • Greasytengu
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    I would say make the CC immunity at least 3x as long as it is currently. As things are now, people question if CC immunity is even real.
    " I nEeD HeAlInG!!! "
  • Ranger209
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    If you can't break free you can't get immunity. It's not real. Perma stun, now that's real.
    Edited by Ranger209 on 14 April 2020 17:44
  • Gilvoth
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    i agree the stuns should be removed.
    break free doesnt work.
  • ApostateHobo
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    Just tried to do a bg and holy hell I was pretty much stunned/CCed the entire time because of break free not working, not even gonna attempt cyrodiil right now because it'd likely be much worse. The desync from CCs is definitely a thing as well because surprise surprise that happened several times too making me unable to do literally anything.
  • Ranger209
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    And so it goes...
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