There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
grannas211 wrote: »There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
Stam Necro says hi
What is the point of playing a build that uses a burst combo (which is essentially every build in the game) when it is so ridiculously easy and cheap to stand there and hold block? Not only that but the concept of being able to block cast combined with the easiest way to mitigate damage is the Reason for the tank and spank meta. When nearly every build in the game uses one including tanks, dps and healing centric builds it demonstrates there is something grossly over powered about it and that it is heavily over performing. Throw in things like tri pots for super easy sustain and a panic heal, mist form for essentially 4 seconds of block mitigation for 4k mag and its very easy to see why no one dies. Its just a bad design than a glass cannon with 9k resists can mitigate almost as much damage as someone with capped resists for simply slotting a sword and board back bar and stam builds can simply hold block for the entire duration every time you go on the offensive.
I understand that PvE needs sword and board to work as it does but it currently makes PvP a slow painful arduous grind, especially when inexperienced players who would be a 5 second 1 combo easy kill with a bow or resto staff are now a drawn out sustain based battle because they simply hold 1 button down with sword and board equipped. What was once ESOs fast paced fighter style gameplay is quickly becoming another slow boring grindy MMO
Remember when game had forms of damage like bleeds that would counter block and tanks but then they got nerfed, anything that has potential to kill people gets nerfed yet anything that improves survival doesn't get touched hence why defensive ults outside the night blade soul siphon all don't have cast times
I don't know about anyone else, but none of my PvP chars ever use SnB...
Remember when game had forms of damage like bleeds that would counter block and tanks but then they got nerfed, anything that has potential to kill people gets nerfed yet anything that improves survival doesn't get touched hence why defensive ults outside the night blade soul siphon all don't have cast times
There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
Nick_Balza wrote: »There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
> the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do
Somewhere in balanced world. But not here.
> Just ignore them and attack someone else
So, I need to ignore all people, who read build threads (75% or something)
Everyone wants to have tanky build and deal devastating damage. Medium armor lost any point long time ago.
Stam builds are equipped by heavy armor. No wonder that stam builds are dominating.
Mag builds trying to survive with damage shields.
Remember when game had forms of damage like bleeds that would counter block and tanks but then they got nerfed, anything that has potential to kill people gets nerfed yet anything that improves survival doesn't get touched hence why defensive ults outside the night blade soul siphon all don't have cast times
Sanguinor2 wrote: »Remember when game had forms of damage like bleeds that would counter block and tanks but then they got nerfed, anything that has potential to kill people gets nerfed yet anything that improves survival doesn't get touched hence why defensive ults outside the night blade soul siphon all don't have cast times
Remember when those bleeds and oblivion Damage screwed non tanks harder than tanks and were heralded as the anti tank Tools?
Nick_Balza wrote: »There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
> the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do
Somewhere in balanced world. But not here.
> Just ignore them and attack someone else
So, I need to ignore all people, who read build threads (75% or something)
Everyone wants to have tanky build and deal devastating damage. Medium armor lost any point long time ago.
Stam builds are equipped by heavy armor. No wonder that stam builds are dominating.
Mag builds trying to survive with damage shields.
I disagree most of the hard to kill builds with great damage are wearing medium, people just assume it’s heavy cause they are hard to kill. Learning to keep your buffs/hots up and using block, los, and roll dodge work wonders especially since heals scale off of damage. You can be very tanky in light or medium.
Nick_Balza wrote: »Nick_Balza wrote: »There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
> the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do
Somewhere in balanced world. But not here.
> Just ignore them and attack someone else
So, I need to ignore all people, who read build threads (75% or something)
Everyone wants to have tanky build and deal devastating damage. Medium armor lost any point long time ago.
Stam builds are equipped by heavy armor. No wonder that stam builds are dominating.
Mag builds trying to survive with damage shields.
I disagree most of the hard to kill builds with great damage are wearing medium, people just assume it’s heavy cause they are hard to kill. Learning to keep your buffs/hots up and using block, los, and roll dodge work wonders especially since heals scale off of damage. You can be very tanky in light or medium.
Sorry, I disagree because I have my proof right here:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-dragonknight-pvp-build2/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-build-pvp1/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-templar-build-pvp/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-warden-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/2018/01/25/drotoxium-stamina-dragon-knight-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/dragonborn-stamina-dragon-knight-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/strain-stamina-sorcerer-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/natures-wrath-stamina-warden-pvp-build/
Also check threads here. Everyone asks "what heavy armor should I use for my stam build?".
Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »
You mean like the healing nerf screws over classes with low healing more than those with quite good heals? Seems like the sledgehammer approach doesn't solve anything. Too bad ZOS has a different oppinion on across-the-board nerfs.
Imagine using alcast as an example for pvp builds, nobody in open world cyrodiil uses these type of builds as they arent good enough.
Nick_Balza wrote: »Nick_Balza wrote: »There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
> the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do
Somewhere in balanced world. But not here.
> Just ignore them and attack someone else
So, I need to ignore all people, who read build threads (75% or something)
Everyone wants to have tanky build and deal devastating damage. Medium armor lost any point long time ago.
Stam builds are equipped by heavy armor. No wonder that stam builds are dominating.
Mag builds trying to survive with damage shields.
I disagree most of the hard to kill builds with great damage are wearing medium, people just assume it’s heavy cause they are hard to kill. Learning to keep your buffs/hots up and using block, los, and roll dodge work wonders especially since heals scale off of damage. You can be very tanky in light or medium.
Sorry, I disagree because I have my proof right here:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-dragonknight-pvp-build2/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-build-pvp1/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-templar-build-pvp/
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-warden-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/2018/01/25/drotoxium-stamina-dragon-knight-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/dragonborn-stamina-dragon-knight-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/strain-stamina-sorcerer-pvp-build/
https://dottzgaming.com/build/natures-wrath-stamina-warden-pvp-build/
Also check threads here. Everyone asks "what heavy armor should I use for my stam build?".
No disrespect to them I appreciate what they have done for the community, but neither of them are top tier pvp players. Top tier players wear light and medium like Nes, Isth3reany1else, Kog, Kristopher just to name a few.
Nick_Balza wrote: »
Alcast, dottz and this forum are the first places people are visiting for getting ideas from where to start.
Nick_Balza wrote: »There are some builds that are amazingly hard to kill. But not only with SnB. Just remember, the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do. So just ignore them and attack someone else. Also, for example, if a super tank is sieging you, you can often just walk up and burn their siege, since they literally can't damage you while you are standing there.
> the harder they are to kill, the less damage they do
Somewhere in balanced world. But not here.
> Just ignore them and attack someone else
So, I need to ignore all people, who read build threads (75% or something)
Everyone wants to have tanky build and deal devastating damage. Medium armor lost any point long time ago.
Stam builds are equipped by heavy armor. No wonder that stam builds are dominating.
Mag builds trying to survive with damage shields.
I disagree most of the hard to kill builds with great damage are wearing medium, people just assume it’s heavy cause they are hard to kill. Learning to keep your buffs/hots up and using block, los, and roll dodge work wonders especially since heals scale off of damage. You can be very tanky in light or medium.