One thing i forgot to mention that burning does a lot of damage, I wonder whats the best combo for maximum burning procs? Infused or charged with fire glyph?

Kadoin wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

People telling u magdk is bad are trolls. Its op AF atm.

Grothar that fire staff and elfbane.

They melt people with very little skill and effort from AoE proc sets that dot while spamming fossilize and powerlash.

RedonkulOus damage output. If there was a class/race respec id change my 27k BB tootltip stamcro to Magdk.

I don't know about that, but I do know I have farmed many stamcros on NA with my mag DK so there is truth here...

Its OP AF mate

Try adding in that staff that gives pulsar a dot tick as well. Now we talking gsme breaking easymode aoe dps.

So:
elfbane
Grothar
Asylum staff
That other staff which grants pulsar extra dot (can be used in conjunction with the mangle morph for top lolz)

I give magdk 1 patch then its nerfed.

Sneakers wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

People telling u magdk is bad are trolls. Its op AF atm.

Grothar that fire staff and elfbane.

They melt people with very little skill and effort from AoE proc sets that dot while spamming fossilize and powerlash.

RedonkulOus damage output. If there was a class/race respec id change my 27k BB tootltip stamcro to Magdk.

I don't know about that, but I do know I have farmed many stamcros on NA with my mag DK so there is truth here...

Its OP AF mate

Try adding in that staff that gives pulsar a dot tick as well. Now we talking gsme breaking easymode aoe dps.

So:
elfbane
Grothar
Asylum staff
That other staff which grants pulsar extra dot (can be used in conjunction with the mangle morph for top lolz)

I give magdk 1 patch then its nerfed.

I had my suspicion that it would probably be better dps spamming that burning effect instead of building up x3 whip and whippin it so gotta have to try it for sure

daemonor wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

People telling u magdk is bad are trolls. Its op AF atm.

Grothar that fire staff and elfbane.

They melt people with very little skill and effort from AoE proc sets that dot while spamming fossilize and powerlash.

RedonkulOus damage output. If there was a class/race respec id change my 27k BB tootltip stamcro to Magdk.

I don't know about that, but I do know I have farmed many stamcros on NA with my mag DK so there is truth here...

Its OP AF mate

Try adding in that staff that gives pulsar a dot tick as well. Now we talking gsme breaking easymode aoe dps.

So:
elfbane
Grothar
Asylum staff
That other staff which grants pulsar extra dot (can be used in conjunction with the mangle morph for top lolz)

I give magdk 1 patch then its nerfed.

I had my suspicion that it would probably be better dps spamming that burning effect instead of building up x3 whip and whippin it so gotta have to try it for sure

Yah magdk with a few certain items can be played by a 4th grade "electric lemon slice" science box. Even a water dip duck (same as homer simpson uses in springfield nuclear plant) can toplol mad deepz 1%ers and carry in Cyro.

daemonor wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

Ill post a build that breaks the game then when i return in U26 It will be nerfed and gone^^

im 140% sure the grothgar elfbane asylum will be nerfed bcause liko already posted a video of it in pve, but im curious what do you have in store for pvp?

Really straight forward tbh.

You either [Snip] using:

Grothtar
Asylum staff fire destro (main)
BRP destro (back)
Elfbane
Grace
Dmg enchants/reduc (bg vs cyro)
Prismatic/magicka (bg vs cyro)

Bar 1:
Powerlash
Fossilise
Engulf
Embers
Force shock (aoe burn dmg and synergy asylum)
Ulti: Ferocious leap

Bar 2:
Ele
Pulsar (BRP dot proc AoE)
Coag
Molten arma
Harden armor/spiked armor (doesnt matter which)
Ulti: Shooting star

If u want more defence u go with potentates resto on backbar and use rapid regen as a HoT but I recommend [Snip].

Ideal situation is to have quite a bit of ulti banked. Fight ppl near structures.
Bomb with Shooting star vs plebs to set up massive ulti income from shooting.
Fossilize.
Leap almost insta after (shooting replenishes ur ulti while plebs struggle in fossilise).
Power lash survivors.

All ur burning dots none stop. Ur grothar ticks for 1200-1600 on 35k resis. Pulsar dot another 1200-1500. Embers ticks, engulf ticks, plus your LA weaving.

Sustain via molten armaments synergy with HA, ele drain and leap. While HAing destro you do like 11500 tooltip plus sustain ~4k magicka.

Nord race
Max stat food
Magicka mundos
Tri pot is what id use to have stamina always ready

You could go with resis phys pot that has health and power/stamina as well.



Enjoy U25


[Edited for baiting]

Qbiken wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

daemonor wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

Ill post a build that breaks the game then when i return in U26 It will be nerfed and gone^^

im 140% sure the grothgar elfbane asylum will be nerfed bcause liko already posted a video of it in pve, but im curious what do you have in store for pvp?

Really straight forward tbh.

You either [Snip] using:

Grothtar
Asylum staff fire destro (main)
BRP destro (back)
Elfbane
Grace
Dmg enchants/reduc (bg vs cyro)
Prismatic/magicka (bg vs cyro)

Bar 1:
Powerlash
Fossilise
Engulf
Embers
Force shock (aoe burn dmg and synergy asylum)
Ulti: Ferocious leap

Bar 2:
Ele
Pulsar (BRP dot proc AoE)
Coag
Molten arma
Harden armor/spiked armor (doesnt matter which)
Ulti: Shooting star

If u want more defence u go with potentates resto on backbar and use rapid regen as a HoT but I recommend [Snip].

Ideal situation is to have quite a bit of ulti banked. Fight ppl near structures.
Bomb with Shooting star vs plebs to set up massive ulti income from shooting.
Fossilize.
Leap almost insta after (shooting replenishes ur ulti while plebs struggle in fossilise).
Power lash survivors.

All ur burning dots none stop. Ur grothar ticks for 1200-1600 on 35k resis. Pulsar dot another 1200-1500. Embers ticks, engulf ticks, plus your LA weaving.

Sustain via molten armaments synergy with HA, ele drain and leap. While HAing destro you do like 11500 tooltip plus sustain ~4k magicka.

Nord race
Max stat food
Magicka mundos
Tri pot is what id use to have stamina always ready

You could go with resis phys pot that has health and power/stamina as well.



Enjoy U25




[Edited for baiting]

Can´t tell if this build is a meme or used for zergsurfing.......

Asardes wrote: »

Dunno, maybe I'm old fashioned but I prefer non-cheese builds:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=217558

Well noone is gonna die from that build unless you outplay them.

The build ppl are abusing (similar build using grothar, elf, passive aoe dot preassure) lets you login and do 3-4k passive dps just by standing there.
Once they start fossilising, power lashing, LA ing , proccing shock glyphs a d dropping meteor quickly followed by leap people explode.

Pulsar + grothar + burning effect alone is high dps. Add to that burning embers and engulf.

Its no fun playing vs 2-3 magdks doing this. Passivly a gang like this can run in a ball and do 7-8k dps just by beeing near you.

Qbiken wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Dunno, maybe I'm old fashioned but I prefer non-cheese builds:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=217558

Well noone is gonna die from that build unless you outplay them.

The build ppl (similar build using grothar, elf, passive aoe dot preassure) is that they login and do 3-4k passive dps just by standing there.
Once they start fossilising, power lashing, LA ing , proccing shock glyphs a d dropping meteor quickly followed by leap people explode.

I'd play asardes setup over yours 7 days a week. Heavy armor on any magicka that isn't a pure healbot is useless (unless you zerg). Losing almost 5k spell penetration, mag recovery, and cost reduction outperforms heavy in all situations for magicka (stamina is a different story)

The build you posted can work in the presence of a friendly zerg backing you up. In a 1v1 or 1vX situation, asardes setup is better in every aspect.

Edit: The setup looks interesting and potentially fun, but i don't see it working outside of a group scenario without a healer.

Grothar+ Elf is definitely viable for PvP(and not as a meme build), but I 'don't understand the reasoning for the Asylum staff+Pulsar. I don't think you can afford running 2 spammables nor sustaining pulsar spam without much consideration to mgicka sustain outside of applying the burning status effect. The lack of healing/movement skills is also problematic.

I think it will be better to go with something like this:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=213977 (this is without CP nor buffs).

Overwhelming Surge is the perfect set to combo with Elf in my opinion. More passive damage, magicka sustain + AOE 100% minor vulnerability uptime(on this setup with charged staff).

With Elf you can abuse ultis like Magma Shell(18 sec duration on this setup), this is basically better than "Ravenous Goliath" as you can regen ulti during the duration, sustain magicka from the passive burning, it is more tanky and offers a support utility to allies. 35 sec "Shifting Standard" is also great with this setup if you want to go offensive.

"Burning talons" is amazing on this setup. The damage is x2 bursty compared to Engulfing flames, synergy damage + great combo flame lash, making it a very reliable healing source.

Quick cloack+BRP DW - You get the movement, all the defensive boons of BRP+quick cloack + the the glyph procs for the damage + the double sustain.

Tun Evil+ Obsidian shard are an experimental replacement for Fossilize+Coagulating Blood. You can take either. The concept is to use "Obsidian shard " to also support allies in BG while restoring enough stamina(from the passives) to sustain the use of Tun Evil which works great with burning talons combo. With the poison glyph back bar+ double poison front bar+potion+DK passives, you should have enough stamina to sustain both Tun Evil&Quick cloack, which gives your magicka pool much more breathing room. This also the reasoning behind "Igneous Weapons"(re-cast once every 54 sec).

Front front bar you can use either frost or lighting staff(defense or offence, no inferno). If you use frost, I think you should also pick the "Tri Focus " passive as most of your magicka sustain arriving from burning+ overwhelming surge effects. This a very good way to distribute the usage of both your magicak and stamina in a very efficient way.

Only tried in on PTS as I dont have a max level DK on live.

daemonor wrote: »

Some interesting stuff right there, the idea of using asylum inferno with force pulse instead of whip cause it's ranged and the burning effect does a lot of damage and gives a lot of resources back. But some quick maths are needed to determine which one is actually better.

If you have perfected it can be an option, but the normal version is not really worth it, so you're better off with a full 5p set and whip instead.

Lughlongarm wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Dunno, maybe I'm old fashioned but I prefer non-cheese builds:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=217558

Well noone is gonna die from that build unless you outplay them.

The build ppl (similar build using grothar, elf, passive aoe dot preassure) is that they login and do 3-4k passive dps just by standing there.
Once they start fossilising, power lashing, LA ing , proccing shock glyphs a d dropping meteor quickly followed by leap people explode.

I'd play asardes setup over yours 7 days a week. Heavy armor on any magicka that isn't a pure healbot is useless (unless you zerg). Losing almost 5k spell penetration, mag recovery, and cost reduction outperforms heavy in all situations for magicka (stamina is a different story)

The build you posted can work in the presence of a friendly zerg backing you up. In a 1v1 or 1vX situation, asardes setup is better in every aspect.

Edit: The setup looks interesting and potentially fun, but i don't see it working outside of a group scenario without a healer.

Grothar+ Elf is definitely viable for PvP(and not as a meme build), but I 'don't understand the reasoning for the Asylum staff+Pulsar. I don't think you can afford running 2 spammables nor sustaining pulsar spam without much consideration to mgicka sustain outside of applying the burning status effect. The lack of healing/movement skills is also problematic.

I think it will be better to go with something like this:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=213977 (this is without CP nor buffs).

Overwhelming Surge is the perfect set to combo with Elf in my opinion. More passive damage, magicka sustain + AOE 100% minor vulnerability uptime(on this setup with charged staff).

With Elf you can abuse ultis like Magma Shell(18 sec duration on this setup), this is basically better than "Ravenous Goliath" as you can regen ulti during the duration, sustain magicka from the passive burning, it is more tanky and offers a support utility to allies. 35 sec "Shifting Standard" is also great with this setup if you want to go offensive.

"Burning talons" is amazing on this setup. The damage is x2 bursty compared to Engulfing flames, synergy damage + great combo flame lash, making it a very reliable healing source.

Quick cloack+BRP DW - You get the movement, all the defensive boons of BRP+quick cloack + the the glyph procs for the damage + the double sustain.

Tun Evil+ Obsidian shard are an experimental replacement for Fossilize+Coagulating Blood. You can take either. The concept is to use "Obsidian shard " to also support allies in BG while restoring enough stamina(from the passives) to sustain the use of Tun Evil which works great with burning talons combo. With the poison glyph back bar+ double poison front bar+potion+DK passives, you should have enough stamina to sustain both Tun Evil&Quick cloack, which gives your magicka pool much more breathing room. This also the reasoning behind "Igneous Weapons"(re-cast once every 54 sec).

Front front bar you can use either frost or lighting staff(defense or offence, no inferno). If you use frost, I think you should also pick the "Tri Focus " passive as most of your magicka sustain arriving from burning+ overwhelming surge effects. This a very good way to distribute the usage of both your magicak and stamina in a very efficient way.

Only tried in on PTS as I dont have a max level DK on live.

I can actually test that out because i have gold overwhelming surge jewels and frost/lighting staff that I used on my magplar for bgs. Looks very interesting, I will have to give it a go for sure.

daemonor wrote: »

Lughlongarm wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Sneakers wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Dunno, maybe I'm old fashioned but I prefer non-cheese builds:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=217558

Well noone is gonna die from that build unless you outplay them.

The build ppl (similar build using grothar, elf, passive aoe dot preassure) is that they login and do 3-4k passive dps just by standing there.
Once they start fossilising, power lashing, LA ing , proccing shock glyphs a d dropping meteor quickly followed by leap people explode.

I'd play asardes setup over yours 7 days a week. Heavy armor on any magicka that isn't a pure healbot is useless (unless you zerg). Losing almost 5k spell penetration, mag recovery, and cost reduction outperforms heavy in all situations for magicka (stamina is a different story)

The build you posted can work in the presence of a friendly zerg backing you up. In a 1v1 or 1vX situation, asardes setup is better in every aspect.

Edit: The setup looks interesting and potentially fun, but i don't see it working outside of a group scenario without a healer.

Grothar+ Elf is definitely viable for PvP(and not as a meme build), but I 'don't understand the reasoning for the Asylum staff+Pulsar. I don't think you can afford running 2 spammables nor sustaining pulsar spam without much consideration to mgicka sustain outside of applying the burning status effect. The lack of healing/movement skills is also problematic.

I think it will be better to go with something like this:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=213977 (this is without CP nor buffs).

Overwhelming Surge is the perfect set to combo with Elf in my opinion. More passive damage, magicka sustain + AOE 100% minor vulnerability uptime(on this setup with charged staff).

With Elf you can abuse ultis like Magma Shell(18 sec duration on this setup), this is basically better than "Ravenous Goliath" as you can regen ulti during the duration, sustain magicka from the passive burning, it is more tanky and offers a support utility to allies. 35 sec "Shifting Standard" is also great with this setup if you want to go offensive.

"Burning talons" is amazing on this setup. The damage is x2 bursty compared to Engulfing flames, synergy damage + great combo flame lash, making it a very reliable healing source.

Quick cloack+BRP DW - You get the movement, all the defensive boons of BRP+quick cloack + the the glyph procs for the damage + the double sustain.

Tun Evil+ Obsidian shard are an experimental replacement for Fossilize+Coagulating Blood. You can take either. The concept is to use "Obsidian shard " to also support allies in BG while restoring enough stamina(from the passives) to sustain the use of Tun Evil which works great with burning talons combo. With the poison glyph back bar+ double poison front bar+potion+DK passives, you should have enough stamina to sustain both Tun Evil&Quick cloack, which gives your magicka pool much more breathing room. This also the reasoning behind "Igneous Weapons"(re-cast once every 54 sec).

Front front bar you can use either frost or lighting staff(defense or offence, no inferno). If you use frost, I think you should also pick the "Tri Focus " passive as most of your magicka sustain arriving from burning+ overwhelming surge effects. This a very good way to distribute the usage of both your magicak and stamina in a very efficient way.

Only tried in on PTS as I dont have a max level DK on live.

I can actually test that out because i have gold overwhelming surge jewels and frost/lighting staff that I used on my magplar for bgs. Looks very interesting, I will have to give it a go for sure.

That will be great. ^^

Its not a theoretical build. Ppl are running around right now T bagging ppl in this.

Well I still couldn't test the overwhelming/elf bane build cause i noticed you have to have 3 light body pieces of that set. Currently still need belt and boots and I'm working on it.

Sadd reacts then, not running in any trial guilds currenctly so got no chance of obtaining perfect inferno staff from asylum.