brandybuck wrote: »

Still, at least having other PvP zones like Dark Age of Camelot would be great as Cyrodill will eventually get boring.

They have already said there will be many things added to Cyrodiil. In DAOC they added Darkness Falls, the PVP dev has already said that is basically what the imperial city in the Center of Cyrodiil will be.

I'm in this game mainly because of Cyrodiil. Any Arena style PvP will detract resources from Cyrodiil, be a balancing nightmare and will split the player base. If this gets implemented in the style of other games (small map, queue, 15 minutes fast food matches) and ruins Cyrodiil I will probably quit the game but before that make a round of the people who asked for the Arenas and hit them in their heads with the Wabbajack.

The game has been out less than a month. Still too early for all the childish arena *** that cant handle tactics and large scale teamwork, or don't like having to ride a horse for 2 minutes before they can fight. Dont start judging until the game has had a fair run out. AVA is good, it just needs some tweaking. Far better than any arena based *** anyhow.

Sticky my behind, Arenas are everywhere this is one game that doesn't need it.

savak wrote: »

People who are afraid that arena or other PvP options will take folks away from AvA... Which campaigns really give a good AvA experience? There are only two or three that are balanced and where playing means anything. I would argue that there will be more players who leave TESO altogether if they are bored of only one (mostly unbalanced option).

You can't really pass judgment on the success or failure of Cyrodiil, a zone designed for max level characters, three weeks into the game. Those campaigns will all be consistently full in a month or two. You know what people were saying before launch? "That seems like such a small number of campaigns considering how many people will be playing." Those people are there, they just haven't started focusing on PvP yet.

joshisanonymous wrote: »

savak wrote: »

People who are afraid that arena or other PvP options will take folks away from AvA... Which campaigns really give a good AvA experience? There are only two or three that are balanced and where playing means anything. I would argue that there will be more players who leave TESO altogether if they are bored of only one (mostly unbalanced option).

You can't really pass judgment on the success or failure of Cyrodiil, a zone designed for max level characters, three weeks into the game. Those campaigns will all be consistently full in a month or two. You know what people were saying before launch? "That seems like such a small number of campaigns considering how many people will be playing." Those people are there, they just haven't started focusing on PvP yet.

If you like PvP you will not be waiting till Max level before jumping in. Levelling is slow for most people if you are a pvper at heart you will break it up with PvP content. I don't buy the argument that there's going to be an inlfux of players in a month or so. Also, why would new players join campaigns which are either dead or dominated by an opposing faction?

savak wrote: »

If you like PvP you will not be waiting till Max level before jumping in. Levelling is slow for most people if you are a pvper at heart you will break it up with PvP content. I don't buy the argument that there's going to be an inlfux of players in a month or so. Also, why would new players join campaigns which are either dead or dominated by an opposing faction?

I'm playing this game mainly for PvP. I pretty much won't touch an MMO unless it's focus is on PvP. Yet, I'm hardly PvPing at all until I get to max level and, when I do, I'm not concerned at all about being effective in anything other than zerging (because I'm not max level, not because I'm not competitive). Assuming I'm not an anomaly, all the campaigns will fill up when people like me start focusing more on PvP. Why would low population campaigns fill up? Because there are queues on high population campaigns. I've already made my home campaign Skull Crusher, which is usually pretty unpopulated.

savak wrote: »

So your saying that having another PvP option will let losing faction players escape instead of fighting?... But they can do that already by transferring their home or guesting in another campaign so that point isn't a good one.

That's a good point, they can guest. There are plenty of reasons not to since you can't set up public guild stores in campaigns where you're guesting, nor can you get any bonuses for owning keeps/resources there. It also doesn't help you become Emperor if you're the ambitious type. You're probably gonna say all that would apply to arenas, too. This is true, but there are some differences. Arenas are usually instanced, meaning they can't possibly fill up, but Cyrodiil campaigns can. This limits your ability to guest somewhere else. The other difference is, if you do manage to guest, you're at least still balancing out another Cyrodiil campaign, not just exluding yourself from all open world PvP altogether.

But, like I said, I'm not taking a strong stance in favor of the idea that arenas will be detrimental to Cyrodiil populations, I'm simply supplying evidence for why the opposite isn't necessarily true either. My personal preference is based on this evidence, among other things.

Zargorius wrote: »

I'm in this game mainly because of Cyrodiil. Any Arena style PvP will detract resources from Cyrodiil, be a balancing nightmare and will split the player base. If this gets implemented in the style of other games (small map, queue, 15 minutes fast food matches) and ruins Cyrodiil I will probably quit the game but before that make a round of the people who asked for the Arenas and hit them in their heads with the Wabbajack.

If people want arenas in TESO and all the whaaa-whaaaaa-whaaaaa!!! migraines that are going to come with it; then I want...no... I NEED for ZOS to redesign the forums and give me an option to be able to block and ignore the QQer's threads/posts. Mark my words, expect to see 5 full consecutive pages of nothing but crying about how they "lost to an OP player in arena NERF THEM!" when you click the "Recent Discussions".

i agree with this it was in other elder scrolls games so it fits 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 12v12 the reson i said 12 v12 is because craglorn has 12 man raids so thaught it would fit lol yea go for it sounds fun cant wait if it gets added

FYI ppl the only other mmo i have played is swtor so dont be coming at me with wow rants because its most probably not the only mmo with arena so calm down more content = more fun just because you dont like the idea dosent mean it shouldnt get added if u dont like it dont play it simples

think about others and dont be selfish

1 more thing rants for adding more content/bang for ur buck are for childish ppl if there adding more accept it

cyridil can only last for so long before it drys up and ppl start complaining because its got boring mark my words its good now i agree

Would people mind stop comparing every single damn mmo with that WOW of theirs? Is really stupid...

I think it's funny how everyone is saying arena based PvP ruins the balance of a game.

You know why WoW class balance was affected by arena PvP? Because they went competitive. They sponsored competitions. A huge part of their hardcore-targeted business plan was centered around arena PvP, so they HAD to focus on balancing it.

It's on the developer to choose how to balance the game. Giving us the option for arena-based and duel-based PvP will not inherently hurt game balance; how they choose to handle that implementation will.

I personally can't see why anyone would be opposed to more content being added to their games. I can't stand doing daily quests; I'd love to see a boatload of daily quests everywhere I go. The more variety that's put into the game, the more potential customers ZoS is going to attract. The population grows, ZoS makes more money, we get a higher and higher quality experience.

If you don't like a particular portion of the game's content, don't participate in it. It's quite simple.