How to bomblade in harrowstorm?
daemonor
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Last time i researched that info, it was either spinner or war maiden dual wield front bad with balroghs monster and vicious death of course. But since NMA is out now wouldn't it be just as good or even better for tether bombing? What about dual wield versus staff and what traits?
I'm thinking 2 balrogh 5 nma 5 vicious death 6 1 1 inferno nirhoned frontbar resto(not sure what) backbar and soul tether for ultimate.
Appreciate your input!
I'm thinking 2 balrogh 5 nma 5 vicious death 6 1 1 inferno nirhoned frontbar resto(not sure what) backbar and soul tether for ultimate.
Appreciate your input!
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FirmamentOfStars✭✭✭✭✭I think many bomblades use mechanical acuity this patch together with balorgh and vicious death. NMA would be an option too, but doesnt provide as much damage as 100% crit chance with crit damage modifierta like channeled acceleration.
Two swords is still the best so far, since you get 6% flat damage increase plus two different weapon traits.0 -
daemonor✭✭✭✭
Yeah you're right lightning staff would be better. It would also seem to make more sense than double swords cause 8% aoe dmg increase is better than 6% flat damage increase and u're only using aoe skills when bombing. Might be wrong with the math somewhere doe.
Mechanical Acuity doesn't make any sense since you get 100% chance from cloack, and you basically just cast tether with buffed up proxy from stealth, you don't want to spend any time attacking to trigger the 15% chance crit buff.0 -
Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
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Yeah you're right lightning staff would be better. It would also seem to make more sense than double swords cause 8% aoe dmg increase is better than 6% flat damage increase and u're only using aoe skills when bombing. Might be wrong with the math somewhere doe.
Mechanical Acuity doesn't make any sense since you get 100% chance from cloack, and you basically just cast tether with buffed up proxy from stealth, you don't want to spend any time attacking to trigger the 15% chance crit buff.
Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »
Yeah you're right lightning staff would be better. It would also seem to make more sense than double swords cause 8% aoe dmg increase is better than 6% flat damage increase and u're only using aoe skills when bombing. Might be wrong with the math somewhere doe.
Mechanical Acuity doesn't make any sense since you get 100% chance from cloack, and you basically just cast tether with buffed up proxy from stealth, you don't want to spend any time attacking to trigger the 15% chance crit buff.
Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.
Both of you´re kinda wrong in different ways.
You´re confusing the Penetration Magic with the light armor passive called Concentration. Penetration Magic makes your Destruction Skills ignore 10% of your enemies spell resistance. If you want to benefit from this passive you are forced to run Eye of the Storm, which is a much weaker option compared to Soul Tether if you´re solo bombing.Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.Yeah you're right lightning staff would be better. It would also seem to make more sense than double swords cause 8% aoe dmg increase is better than 6% flat damage increase and u're only using aoe skills when bombing. Might be wrong with the math somewhere doe.
Mechanical Acuity doesn't make any sense since you get 100% chance from cloack, and you basically just cast tether with buffed up proxy from stealth, you don't want to spend any time attacking to trigger the 15% chance crit buff
2x Swords (Nirn mainhand, Sharpened off-hand) >>>>> Lightning staff. Fairly easy to check ESO build editor and compare (assuming you´re running Soul Tether, which you should).
Mechanical Acuity makes more sense than you realise. While cloak gives you a guaranteed crit on your initial hit on Soul Tether, it doesn´t give your proximity detonation a guaranteed chance to crit. Depending on how many targets you hit, you need to be really unlucky with RNG not to procc mechanical acuity from the initial hit from Soul Tether.
My advice to OP if you want to run a bomblade:
5 Vicious Death: 2x Swords (Nirn Mainhand + Sharpened offhand) + 3x jewellery (All infused with spell damage enchants)
5 Mechanical Acuity: 5 Divines (all max magicka)
2 Balorgh: 2 Divines with max magicka
Backbar Weapon can be whatever
Shadow Mundus
Race: High elf, Dark Elf ,(Khajiit)
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Rianai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mechanical Acuity makes more sense than you realise. While cloak gives you a guaranteed crit on your initial hit on Soul Tether, it doesn´t give your proximity detonation a guaranteed chance to crit. Depending on how many targets you hit, you need to be really unlucky with RNG not to procc mechanical acuity from the initial hit from Soul Tether.
Just a small addendum to an otherwise accurate post:
Cloak grants a guaranteed crit with Soul Tether against one single target. So it is not just Proxy that can benefit from Acuity.2 -
FirmamentOfStars✭✭✭✭✭Small addition to why two swords is better than a lightning staff:
You are right that a lightning staff gives 8% aoe damage meanwhile two swords only give 6% overall damage. But duel wield grants a higher base spell- and weapondamage and profits from havinf two traits (where nirnhoned actually has the value of a full trait here).0 -
daemonor✭✭✭✭Well thank you for the informative post then, thats exactly why I posted. To find the best way to run it based on math, because eso tooltips and descriptions can be confusing sometimes. Had no idea cloack only gives crit to 1 target soul tether or that acuity 15% gets counted from multiple soul tether hits.0
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daemonor✭✭✭✭I would probably save money and get identical results from running 2 mechanical acuity swords and 2 body pieces of vicious death though?0
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Rianai✭✭✭✭✭
✭You'd lose some stats on your backbar, but ultimately it won't matter and you can distribute the sets as you wish.0 -
Metemsycosis✭✭✭✭Ive heard of MA builds around onslaught ganking to trigger VD and sweep up with pulsar or sap, shade away, no healing.Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
A Dark-Adapted Eye, Imperial Necromancer
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dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Isn't bomb blade a kind of magblade which specializes in huge aoe burst dps?Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.0 -
Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Both of you´re kinda wrong in different ways.
You´re confusing the Penetration Magic with the light armor passive called Concentration. Penetration Magic makes your Destruction Skills ignore 10% of your enemies spell resistance. If you want to benefit from this passive you are forced to run Eye of the Storm, which is a much weaker option compared to Soul Tether if you´re solo bombing.Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.
Ah, I seem to have mixed those passives. The 10% spell pen (after subtractive spell pen sources) isnt massive but vs heavy armor targets it can be a decent dmg boost. In regards to the workings of Penetrating Magic, the description leads me to believe you dont need to slot or use a destro staff ability:
Penetrating Magic - Rank II
With Destruction Staff equipped: Allows your Destruction Staff spells to ignore 10% of an enemy's Spell Resistance.
Is the description of this passive incorrect or am I missing something here?PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer0 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭How about no CP? Isn't better to use lightning staff and spam Pulsar after Soul Teather?0
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AMeanOne✭✭✭✭✭Septimus read what you wrote. Only affects destruction staff abilities. And no commancho use sap essence. It let's you use 2 swords which is betterEdited by AMeanOne on 5 March 2020 08:280
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mague✭✭✭✭✭Last time i researched that info, it was either spinner or war maiden dual wield front bad with balroghs monster and vicious death of course. But since NMA is out now wouldn't it be just as good or even better for tether bombing? What about dual wield versus staff and what traits?
I'm thinking 2 balrogh 5 nma 5 vicious death 6 1 1 inferno nirhoned frontbar resto(not sure what) backbar and soul tether for ultimate.
Appreciate your input!
Us healers started to cast Flare proactively ^_^0 -
n0she1teR✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Both of you´re kinda wrong in different ways.
You´re confusing the Penetration Magic with the light armor passive called Concentration. Penetration Magic makes your Destruction Skills ignore 10% of your enemies spell resistance. If you want to benefit from this passive you are forced to run Eye of the Storm, which is a much weaker option compared to Soul Tether if you´re solo bombing.Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.
Ah, I seem to have mixed those passives. The 10% spell pen (after subtractive spell pen sources) isnt massive but vs heavy armor targets it can be a decent dmg boost. In regards to the workings of Penetrating Magic, the description leads me to believe you dont need to slot or use a destro staff ability:
Penetrating Magic - Rank II
With Destruction Staff equipped: Allows your Destruction Staff spells to ignore 10% of an enemy's Spell Resistance.
Is the description of this passive incorrect or am I missing something here?
Septimus... that 10% is only for destruction staff spells (like pulsar or force pulse), which you don’t typically use for bombing on NB’s. Typical tether bomb is proxy up, cloak in, soul tether, proxy off, and sap essence to clean up, cloak away.0 -
MentalxHammer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »
Yeah you're right lightning staff would be better. It would also seem to make more sense than double swords cause 8% aoe dmg increase is better than 6% flat damage increase and u're only using aoe skills when bombing. Might be wrong with the math somewhere doe.
Mechanical Acuity doesn't make any sense since you get 100% chance from cloack, and you basically just cast tether with buffed up proxy from stealth, you don't want to spend any time attacking to trigger the 15% chance crit buff.
Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.
Both of you´re kinda wrong in different ways.
You´re confusing the Penetration Magic with the light armor passive called Concentration. Penetration Magic makes your Destruction Skills ignore 10% of your enemies spell resistance. If you want to benefit from this passive you are forced to run Eye of the Storm, which is a much weaker option compared to Soul Tether if you´re solo bombing.Lightning staff also allows you to ignore 4884 spell resist due to the Penetrating Magic passive so its a much better choice.Yeah you're right lightning staff would be better. It would also seem to make more sense than double swords cause 8% aoe dmg increase is better than 6% flat damage increase and u're only using aoe skills when bombing. Might be wrong with the math somewhere doe.
Mechanical Acuity doesn't make any sense since you get 100% chance from cloack, and you basically just cast tether with buffed up proxy from stealth, you don't want to spend any time attacking to trigger the 15% chance crit buff
2x Swords (Nirn mainhand, Sharpened off-hand) >>>>> Lightning staff. Fairly easy to check ESO build editor and compare (assuming you´re running Soul Tether, which you should).
Mechanical Acuity makes more sense than you realise. While cloak gives you a guaranteed crit on your initial hit on Soul Tether, it doesn´t give your proximity detonation a guaranteed chance to crit. Depending on how many targets you hit, you need to be really unlucky with RNG not to procc mechanical acuity from the initial hit from Soul Tether.
My advice to OP if you want to run a bomblade:
5 Vicious Death: 2x Swords (Nirn Mainhand + Sharpened offhand) + 3x jewellery (All infused with spell damage enchants)
5 Mechanical Acuity: 5 Divines (all max magicka)
2 Balorgh: 2 Divines with max magicka
Backbar Weapon can be whatever
Shadow Mundus
Race: High elf, Dark Elf ,(Khajiit)
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=187734
sry for necro, if you're going by build editor then the 8% dmg buff to aoe's will not appear in effective spell power, the 6% dmg increase by swords will, so this is a bit misleading.0 -
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✭✭Been seeing more bomblades in BG’s lately. Some are effective other not so much.0