Pyr0xyrecuprotite wrote: »

To be fair, the inventory issue is a standard problem in the preceding single-player Elder Scrolls games too. As an adventurer, you are constantly going out exploring and looting stuff, but then having to come back to base to sell stuff, use it for crafting, or try to store it somewhere. This is classic RPG stuff. ESO was actually rather kind to players in allowing most materials to stack (i.e. using only a single slot) and not have any carry weight. Anyone remember picking up another item in Skyrim, and then being unable to move?

In Skyrim I could drop stuff and tell Lydia to pick it up
You could also tell her to empty containers this marked all the items as stolen but that did not matter for crafting materials.
Think she carried 10 ton out of blackreach

This led to one of the most surreal AI behavior in a game.
I dropped stuff on floor in an dungeon for Lydia to pick up.
Some bandit in an nearby room noticed this and came into the room picked up an sword and told me I dropped it and asked if I wanted it back or she could keep it.
I took it and she then attacked me with an significantly worse sword than the one she gave to me

You could even ask her to pick up an rare item then next to an load door, quickly activate the door before she reached it and she would follow you trough the door with the item. Exit and item would also lie on the ground.

Spaceroamer wrote: »

That doesn’t mean it wasn’t created to get people to buy ESO+. The lack up bank space upgrades AFTER ESO+ was created shows this.

It really does.

ESO plus wasn't the original solution to the epic inventory management problems, especially if you crafted.

The solution was guilds and guild banks.

This is just one of many ways ZO tried to irritate players into joining guilds. Because belonging to a guild is associated with better player retention.

But players created addon solutions instead and eventually ZO rolled out the crafting bag as an incentive to subscribe.

Sergg007 wrote: »

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

Try playing on console with ZERO add ons, then come back and complain

Grianasteri wrote: »

Sergg007 wrote: »

I am using all add-ons, it helps a little but does not solve the problem. I do not play the game, I shift things!
I don’t know what to do with it, sometimes I just want to delete everything, but then I will delete the game. What do you think, how to handle? :'((((

Try playing on console with ZERO add ons, then come back and complain

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Its actually not that bad, in fact its pretty amazing hence I have been playing it for over 4 years.

But consols do need some quality of life "add ons" or improvements more in keeping with what PC users have available. Combat analytics of some kind would be a great start. We dont get to see any break down of our parsing at present.

Grianasteri wrote: »

Its actually not that bad, in fact its pretty amazing hence I have been playing it for over 4 years.

But consols do need some quality of life "add ons" or improvements more in keeping with what PC users have available. Combat analytics of some kind would be a great start. We dont get to see any break down of our parsing at present.

I could maybe get used to using a Controller, although I hate the things.
But how do you guys Chat without a Keyboard?
What about the horrendous loadingtimes without a PcIEx-SSD?
Or the bad graphics on a 6 year old console?

There`s just so many drawbacks, I seriously cant see any pluspoint.

Tigerseye wrote: »

My advice would be to ignore most of the above advice (because you probably do it, anyway).

Buy ESO+ if you can - but, then, if you're still having problems (and you will), keep on petitioning ZOS for more space.

It's ridiculous that you can sub, buy Crowns and still get told, by some people, that you should be jumping through hoops and making endless mules, just to store your relatively modest amount of stuff.

Or that you're a "hoarder".

What is your definition of "relatively modest amount of stuff"? What do you feel constitutes a necessary or even reasonable amount?

I have all the storage boxes, full bank slots, and 11 characters with most of them mules with ESO plus and still have storage issues.

What I should have done is decon everything that isn’t a weapon or jewellery that I’m not wearing, I have tons of junk sitting in storage.

The problem is the time it would take to organize everything. Last time I tried after 3 hours I gave up.

Each storage box isn’t linked, and even using inventory insight finding out if I have duplicates is a pain. The system sucks.

Has no one else played older MMOs where you could load up on strongboxes and carry over 1k items? Even in that game cleaning up your inventory was fast because you had one bank; not 7 different ones with 6 only accessible in your house.

Inventory design on the game is just stupid - there’s no other way to put it.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

The main thing is they upend sets so often and make farming such a massive, massive chore because drop rates are not weighted towards gear type. So it encourages people to hoard nice drops they absolutely do not need.

No, people hard stuff they don't need because they see it as being rare. That's an issue with them, not the game. I have no problem deconstructing all the rare things I cannot sell because they are bound to my character. No issue at all, just click the button and turn it into something I can monetize, like MATS.

I am currently using 12 spots in my bank, it has max inventory slots but I only use 12 of them. I have two chests in my house, one 30 and one 60, I am only using about half the space in each. Reason is that much of my bank and my chests were taken up by items I now hold in my craft bag, but regardless it was still very easy to maintain self control prior to that, and very simple to manage my inventory.

If someone is maxed on all their item slots for bank, house, chests and inventory, and having issues with space then the problem is with them.

Sell everything you are not going to use, and sell everything you are not using even if you can sometime in the future. This is how modern economies work. We exchange our work or items for money so that we can easily then go out into the world and purchase what we need without having to drag a cart behind us of things we want to trade. Sell it all, sell everything you don't use or need and you will find you have more than enough space.

If you are having issues with your inventory, it's because you are hoarding and not thinking about things logically. Some people do have a very strong attachment to things they obtain in a game, I get it, ZoS creates items that you might find you have some attachment to with intended purpose so you buy more stuff, buy more space, buy more period. Don't fall into that trap. Sell everything you don't need or are not going to use. Set a criteria for yourself, limits, thresholds and stick to them.

Join guilds where you can sell items quickly, I belong to 3 trade guilds and have no issues keeping all three stocked just with my normal game play. I save items to sell instead of deconstruction them by paying attention to the items I have priced lowest. So if the lowest priced items are 5k, I deconstruct or sell anything that is below 5k to a merchant. If it's above 5k, I put it up for sale right away. This is how you effectively manage your inventory, not by saving things you may or may not use in the future.

If you are having issues parting with housing items, then buy the small houses that are all over the place and put your items in those houses as furniture. But don't save them in your bank or inventory. You might not ever use them and it's probably a lot of space they take up. Personally I would sell them, you can always buy them back and if you pay attention you can sell what you have for more, and buy what you want for less.

If you have a high value recipe, sell it unless you are going to use it, then consume it. You should not have any recipes in your bank or any other inventory.

If you have items that you have saved to craft equipment, get rid of everything under the highest level you are able to craft, sell those mats. There is no reason to save junk you are never going to use. It would be better to turn those crafting mats into usable gold to buy things you need to craft at your highest ability, or buy whatever for that matter like maybe more bank or inventory space.

You should not have any motif in your inventory, bank, house, etc. Consume it or sell it there is no reason to hang onto any of it, none.

Unless you have a craft bag, and/or using mats for specific things, there is no reason to take up inventory slots saving mats. If you sell for the going market price, you can always buy it back for the same price or less. I used to do this all the time, put it up for sale on the high end, even if I was going to use it sometime in the future. They sell fast in a good trade guild, then, when I needed mats I just go buy them back for a lower price. It's super, super easy and you make a little extra gold as well.

If you are running dungeons looking for specific gear, you do not need to save 5 boots of the same gear set, save only one pair that has the best attributes, deconstruct the rest for mats and if you are not going to use the mats, sell them. People buy mats more often than anything else.

Self control, setting limits, only organizing after you have applied your criteria for selling, decon etc. It's not rocket science, it's very simply organization.

Thank you all for your good helpful advice! I will try to be tougher with all this junk.

i do daily writs for 16 out of 18 EU (8 do top tier writs) and 5 out of 10 US (1 do top tier writs)
the inventory micro managing,even with eso+ its a pain
every 3-4 days i must open boxes-put all recipes,maps,plans etc to one place and i start from top to bottom
to all toons so they all learn them,after i got 1 mule for surveys and then sell the items i dont need
this must be done X18 only for my main EU account,in the afternoon i do the US part and maybe i check pc acc too
all storage boxes are full and got about 30 houses-6 notable up to furnishing limit
there isnt space to store anything with all this,all toons -also max space 205 itmes- carry at least 80 items each
so i can somehow manage my inventory

This thread inspired me, tonight I offloaded about 30 furnishings in my inventory into decent locations in my homes, some could be better and aren't in their forever homes but they aren't cluttering my inventory anymore. I deconstructed a few things too.