I wasnt asking for a cap on PvP. I come from Fallen Earth and WHO, where there is no cap to PvP. I am just wondering if there should be an ability for some ppl to join a smaller campaign at times. Zerg vs Zerg is good and all. However I don't feel like I am actually of any use during these battles. Whereas during smaller battles I know I am of use as I can see that I am making a difference

I said a smaller campaign type. I meant to say there should also be a smaller campaign for ppl who don't want to deal with Zergs all the time. Battleground instances can actually be quite fun. WHO had them from the get go and I spent most of my time in them and the other half of my time in the PvP zones. The same goes for Fallen Earth there were great PvP battle instances and massive open PvP zones

true they were small and a little bit of a pain sometimes. But I enjoyed them. And I also enjoyed the Queues .... forgot what they were called.

Not smaller campaigns, but I would have liked to see it tiered more. Like how they did it in warhammer. And give bonuses that help the winning side in the end campaign plus for pve. I just feel like running the same campaign from 10-50 is gonna get old real fast.

Even with the current boosts you still get rolled pretty quick if you're too low. Kinda turns some people off to even trying. The imbalance that should hopefully correct itself in time only makes it worse. Would hate to see them have to shut down campaigns just to keep it balanced.

I totally agree with you IdioticUlt1mara .Smaller campaigns maybe wont be solution for some players,but something like that is what this game will need very soon.First of all,when ppl say PvP will be like wow,i do not understand whats bad in that?I played my share of MMOS,and trust me none of them doesn't have PvP system good as wow,nothing lame about it.Second and much more important is low FPS issue in battles with so many ppl included,it makes hard to enjoy fighting when u are under 15 FPS.I just hope they will put some arenas for 3v3 or 5v5 battles,i must say very similar to wow,where we will avoid low performance and too crowded fights in which i can barely hit enemy or i just die in a blink of an eye.I also had that feeling that i cant make so much difference or use my skills like i imagined it would be in Eso PvP.The way it is now its just a lot off running(or riding).I do respect ppl who like massive battles,but i prefer smaller fights that would give me time to be more creative.
P.S. Some1 already mentioned,dueling would be also great,its one and only way to practice PvP skills with friends b4 entering real pvp that counts.

Small or large scale battles is matter of choice.As i mentioned,beside performance issue,i think there is a lot off players there who share this opinion,and who doesn't enjoy massive battles where u cant be creative.My level is 22 atm,and i got into battles with 32-36...imagine what i did...died in 1,5 seconds.I do love Elder Scrolls universe,i do love way this game is made,PvE looks great also.But PvP will see some remakes im sure,since developers don't want people to leave this game because simple matter like its choice between massive fight or smaller team fights.Players should be able to choose what best fits their way of playing.

supernickx maybe you should try AoC,they had PvP system that seems to fit your playing style,and check how they end it up.

there needs to be some sort of battlegrounds for people to play in where melee players can be more viable other than being aoe spammed down

I am glad this is sparking up more and more of a conversation ever day ^^. And so far most people seem to be under the same pretense as me, that a smaller PvP instance may be fun along with the large zerg vs zerg PvP

Mastermaxx wrote: »

Small or large scale battles is matter of choice.As i mentioned,beside performance issue,i think there is a lot off players there who share this opinion,and who doesn't enjoy massive battles where u cant be creative.My level is 22 atm,and i got into battles with 32-36...imagine what i did...died in 1,5 seconds.I do love Elder Scrolls universe,i do love way this game is made,PvE looks great also.But PvP will see some remakes im sure,since developers don't want people to leave this game because simple matter like its choice between massive fight or smaller team fights.Players should be able to choose what best fits their way of playing.

supernickx maybe you should try AoC,they had PvP system that seems to fit your playing style,and check how they end it up.

Lol, I find it funny when people blame level for dying in ESO pvp. My guild had a lvl 10 kill the Emperor in the our home campaign. everyone is scaled to lvl 50 and the only thing someone higher lvl has over you is more developed skills.

IdioticUlt1mara wrote: »

I wasnt asking for a cap on PvP. I come from Fallen Earth and WHO, where there is no cap to PvP. I am just wondering if there should be an ability for some ppl to join a smaller campaign at times. Zerg vs Zerg is good and all. However I don't feel like I am actually of any use during these battles. Whereas during smaller battles I know I am of use as I can see that I am making a difference

You don't have to zerg. The size of the map and the ability to sneak actually facilitate small scale PvP. There's lot you can do, and most of it still helps your realm. Pick a spot between a keep being fought over and an enemy's keep and kill reinforcements. Run around to enemy keeps that aren't being sieged just to damage walls and distract their zergs from their current objectives. Check NPC towns to kill people who are PvEing. Focus your build on Fighters Guild/fire abilities and be a vampire hunter. Organize 1v1 tournaments in out of the way areas with similar-minded players from the other alliances. Put together a group of 4-8 to run around taking resources from keeps far down the supply chain just to cut off the enemy alliances' ability to teleport. Convince the members of that group to all be werewolves to take advantage of that wolf pack passive and just run around ganking reinforcements and such. I'm sure there's more; this is just what I came up with off the top of my head.