There shouldn’t be any “in combat” stipulations when it comes to this. If you can knock me off my mount, fine, then I’ll be dismounted... I should not have to run halfway across the bloody map only to be allowed to mount once I reach my destination.
Maybe I’m missing something, maybe there’s a good reason I’m just not aware of... I really want to continue to love this game, but this is such an annoying part.. I really wish they'd fix this.

Suicide potions?

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Suicide potions?

Essence of Ravage Health. Poison but on you

ZOS should start handing out suicide potions in daily login rewards, just for this one purpose

zyk wrote: »

Delphinia wrote: »

There shouldn’t be any “in combat” stipulations when it comes to this. If you can knock me off my mount, fine, then I’ll be dismounted... I should not have to run halfway across the bloody map only to be allowed to mount once I reach my destination.

I disagree. I mean, I consider Cyrodiil to be unplayable now. but it would just be stupid at a gameplay level if players could just mount up to escape a fight that isn't going their way. Open field combat would be completely idiotic.

The problem here is 100% ZOS doesn't want to do what's necessary to fix the underlying problems related to the stuck in combat bug. For the amount of time it's been an issue, they could have developed a full game. This is 100% an issue of will.

I'm sure people like Brian and Rich care, but can't do anything about it because Zenimax Media doesn't consider fixing a broken product they've already sold to be important unless it's profitable. Mods, don't ban me for bashing. The facts are clear. This isn't a money problem or a talent problem. The proper ethics in this situation are also clear.

@zyk I see your point, however I respectfully disagree....

you do realize many players flee or “escape” by many other abilities and tactics? sorcs streak away, nightblades simply vanish... potions (when they work)... Psijic ultimate(undo) etc... to, as you say, “escape a fight that isn’t going their way.”

I always encounter players with very low health remaining and in an instant, are either already flying halfway across the battlefield, or are just about to be finished off and vanish. There are countless ways players escape; these are just a few of the more prevalent “skills” used as tactics to flee.

Whether on foot or on hoof.....I still believe that there is no reason to be stuck in combat while trying to mount up.

Perhaps it would suit your scenario to have a small penalty for fleeing on a mount if it becomes consistent...

It’s possible that players could just as easily be knocked off their mount and forced into combat.

It also does take a moment to be able to “call” your mount as well. During which time, one would have to either choose to take a chance and try and mount, or turn and fight the attacker.

Also, as it stands now, you are not permitted to mount inside the inner area of a keep, while other forms of escape are always allowed...

Honestly, I really just can’t care enough or waste time and energy to get into this that deep anyway.

I’m sure you have put much more effort into considering every possible outcome than I have. It just seems absurd to not be able to use a “skill”, like horse riding because one is “in combat”... It’s always possible to be interrupted, or knocked off and forced to fight or die...and just as valid a tactic as any other form of fleeing or escape.

hesobad wrote: »

Delphinia wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Delphinia wrote: »

There shouldn’t be any “in combat” stipulations when it comes to this. If you can knock me off my mount, fine, then I’ll be dismounted... I should not have to run halfway across the bloody map only to be allowed to mount once I reach my destination.

I disagree. I mean, I consider Cyrodiil to be unplayable now. but it would just be stupid at a gameplay level if players could just mount up to escape a fight that isn't going their way. Open field combat would be completely idiotic.

The problem here is 100% ZOS doesn't want to do what's necessary to fix the underlying problems related to the stuck in combat bug. For the amount of time it's been an issue, they could have developed a full game. This is 100% an issue of will.

I'm sure people like Brian and Rich care, but can't do anything about it because Zenimax Media doesn't consider fixing a broken product they've already sold to be important unless it's profitable. Mods, don't ban me for bashing. The facts are clear. This isn't a money problem or a talent problem. The proper ethics in this situation are also clear.

@zyk I see your point, however I respectfully disagree....

you do realize many players flee or “escape” by many other abilities and tactics? sorcs streak away, nightblades simply vanish... potions (when they work)... Psijic ultimate(undo) etc... to, as you say, “escape a fight that isn’t going their way.”

I always encounter players with very low health remaining and in an instant, are either already flying halfway across the battlefield, or are just about to be finished off and vanish. There are countless ways players escape; these are just a few of the more prevalent “skills” used as tactics to flee.

Whether on foot or on hoof.....I still believe that there is no reason to be stuck in combat while trying to mount up.

Perhaps it would suit your scenario to have a small penalty for fleeing on a mount if it becomes consistent...

It’s possible that players could just as easily be knocked off their mount and forced into combat.

It also does take a moment to be able to “call” your mount as well. During which time, one would have to either choose to take a chance and try and mount, or turn and fight the attacker.

Also, as it stands now, you are not permitted to mount inside the inner area of a keep, while other forms of escape are always allowed...

Honestly, I really just can’t care enough or waste time and energy to get into this that deep anyway.

I’m sure you have put much more effort into considering every possible outcome than I have. It just seems absurd to not be able to use a “skill”, like horse riding because one is “in combat”... It’s always possible to be interrupted, or knocked off and forced to fight or die...and just as valid a tactic as any other form of fleeing or escape.

I would much rather have instant horse knock off due to any damage than being stuck in combat for 5 minutes trying to run across the map to defend or attack a keep.

Exactly @hesobad , same here. I realize some players might be against the ability to do so in the middle of battle, and I can respect their opinions, but there are countless ways players are already able to flee a situation, mounting up is just another method... especially, as those who have limited mobility, it would help give some of us at least a similar opportunity to at least try and escape. I've seen them nerf my class over and over only to give very similar skills to other classes while not taking away from those. It used to be I would hear, "you're a templar, you shouldn't be able to escape, you have heals..." Yes, and so do many others...some even better....
In addition, there is no guarantee that a player would even be able to remain mounted, or for that matter not be interrupted while trying to do so. Therefore, there is still the chance some players would still be forced into combat....

But, this should be essentially "mount at your own risk" and I agree with you totally, I'd much rather this than never know when or if I can actually mount.. run over halfway across the map only to have to run back again because a defense or take failed. I could be wrong, but I really believe we should not have any "in combat" factors for mounting. I really hope @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom and anyone else who understands how this state of being in constant combat is negatively affecting so many of their players, will at least look into this.

I have a hard time justifying working towards any more Indrik mounts, or purchasing any additional crown mounts until I know I can actually use them.