Since we've gotten new Alchemy Items from Expansions, couldn't we get higher level Master Writs?

B0SSzombie · July 2019

So currently, Alchemy Writs are either to make easy Poisons or Potions, which can reward up to a whopping 5 Writs. This is staggeringly low compared to the maximum of other Master Crafting Writs.

The thing is, Blacksmithing, Clothing, and Woodworking Writs are constantly updated to include Motifs introduced in DLC (I want to say Wolfhunter was included in the latest update to Master Writs?), as well as the fact that Provisioning Writs includes Orsinium recipes and Enchanting Writs includes the Hakeijo rune from Imperial City.

So why not update Alchemy Master Writs to include the Alchemy Ingredients from Summerset (Clam Gall and Powdered Mother of Pearl) and Elsweyr (Dragon's Bile and Dragon Blood)? These could be "Legendary" Writs too, considering that Alchemy is the only Master Writ type without any.

As far as "3 Ingredient" Poisons/Potions, you can make all of the following with the added Ingredients:

Clam Gall:
-Defile+Hindrance+Increase Spell Resist

Powdered Mother of Pearl:
-Lingering Health+Speed+Vitality
-Lingering Health+Protection+Vitality
-Protection+Speed+Vitality

Dragon's Bile:
-Invisible+Vitality+Vulnerability

Dragon's Blood:
-Defile+Lingering Health+Restore Stamina

AND you can even make even more valuable Master Writs that have recipes that require TWO DLC Ingredients:

Clam Gall & Dragon's Bile:
-Hindrance+Invisible+Vulnerability

Clam Gall & Dragon's Blood:
-Defile+Lingering Health+Vulnerability
-Defile+Hindrance+Lingering Health

Powdered Mother of Pearl & Dragon's Bile:
-Invisible+Speed+Vitality

Dragon's Bile & Dragon's Blood:
-Heroism+Invisible+Lingering Health
-Heroism+Lingering Health+Vulnerability

Plus, I guess Provisioning Master Writs should also be updated to include the recipes from Clockwork City and Summerset (But not Holiday recipes, since those can't be earned at any given time).

tmbrinks · July 2019

B0SSzombie wrote: »

So currently, Alchemy Writs are either to make easy Poisons or Potions, which can reward up to a whopping 5 Writs. This is staggeringly low compared to the maximum of other Master Crafting Writs.

The thing is, Blacksmithing, Clothing, and Woodworking Writs are constantly updated to include Motifs introduced in DLC (I want to say Wolfhunter was included in the latest update to Master Writs?), as well as the fact that Provisioning Writs includes Orsinium recipes and Enchanting Writs includes the Hakeijo rune from Imperial City.

So why not update Alchemy Master Writs to include the Alchemy Ingredients from Summerset (Clam Gall and Powdered Mother of Pearl) and Elsweyr (Dragon's Bile and Dragon Blood)? These could be "Legendary" Writs too, considering that Alchemy is the only Master Writ type without any.

As far as "3 Ingredient" Poisons/Potions, you can make all of the following with the added Ingredients:

Clam Gall:
-Defile+Hindrance+Increase Spell Resist

Powdered Mother of Pearl:
-Lingering Health+Speed+Vitality
-Lingering Health+Protection+Vitality
-Protection+Speed+Vitality

Dragon's Bile:
-Invisible+Vitality+Vulnerability

Dragon's Blood:
-Defile+Lingering Health+Restore Stamina

AND you can even make even more valuable Master Writs that have recipes that require TWO DLC Ingredients:

Clam Gall & Dragon's Bile:
-Hindrance+Invisible+Vulnerability

Clam Gall & Dragon's Blood:
-Defile+Lingering Health+Vulnerability
-Defile+Hindrance+Lingering Health

Powdered Mother of Pearl & Dragon's Bile:
-Invisible+Speed+Vitality

Dragon's Bile & Dragon's Blood:
-Heroism+Invisible+Lingering Health
-Heroism+Lingering Health+Vulnerability

Plus, I guess Provisioning Master Writs should also be updated to include the recipes from Clockwork City and Summerset (But not Holiday recipes, since those can't be earned at any given time).

They include motifs from those zones, but they don't require any of the sets from any of the most recent DLC's. No Clockwork City, no Murkmire, no Summerset, no Elsweyr sets are ever asked for with master writs.

But, I don't disagree that there should be more options, especially for some more valuable master writs (although the gold provisioning are not worth doing in their current state)

Tatanko · July 2019

tmbrinks wrote: »

(although the gold provisioning are not worth doing in their current state)

Do you mean writs that require legendary recipes (e.g. Psijic Ambrosia)? I would love to see those classified as legendary in their sealed form and provide at least a few more vouchers.

B0SSzombie wrote: »

These could be "Legendary" Writs too, considering that Alchemy is the only Master Writ type without any.

Technically Provisioning doesn't have any yellow sealed writs either, though I think a few should be classified that way. In any case, I also want to point out that Alchemy is the only one out of seven professions that has no clear-cut levels of quality with associated improvement materials -- you craft potions or poisons to the appropriate level, and that's it, they're as good as they can get. Provisioning has quality level built into recipe choice, even if it is more indirect.

tmbrinks · July 2019

Tatanko wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

(although the gold provisioning are not worth doing in their current state)

Do you mean writs that require legendary recipes (e.g. Psijic Ambrosia)? I would love to see those classified as legendary in their sealed form and provide at least a few more vouchers.

Yes, that was what I meant.

redlink1979 · July 2019

@tmbrinks Agree. Provisioning writs should grant us more vouchers, specially those that require Perfect Roe. Vouchers granted per master writ must be in line with required mats to craft the master writ.

FlopsyPrince · July 2019

redlink1979 wrote: »

@tmbrinks Agree. Provisioning writs should grant us more vouchers, specially those that require Perfect Roe. Vouchers granted per master writ must be in line with required mats to craft the master writ.

And they will be, just like with Jewelry Crafting Master Writs, right?

redlink1979 · July 2019

@FlopsyPrince I'd like that they could resemble more with the new jewelry master writs. I feel that the current provisioning master writs don't reward you enough vouchers. The costs of crafting them aren't in line with the benefit granted.

FlopsyPrince · July 2019

redlink1979 wrote: »

@FlopsyPrince I'd like that they could resemble more with the new jewelry master writs. I feel that the current provisioning master writs don't reward you enough vouchers. The costs of crafting them aren't in line with the benefit granted.

Are the revised jewelry master writs worth doing now? I assumed that nothing had really changed. I would love to be in error and stop just deleting them.

redlink1979 · July 2019

Thanks to our mate @tmbrinks we can have an insight regarding the new jewelry master writs.
I think they are worth doing. According to the post

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/486397/pts-jewelry-master-writ-changes#latest

We can see the blue writs will grant vouchers in the 28-29 range, purple master writs will grant between 175-200 vouchers and the gold master writs will grant 575-666 vouchers.
The change isn't retroactive. I just deleted all of the old jewelry master writs: why do one that grants 300 vouchers if after U23 I can do another that grants 600 vouchers?

FlopsyPrince · July 2019

redlink1979 wrote: »

Thanks to our mate @tmbrinks we can have an insight regarding the new jewelry master writs.
I think they are worth doing. According to the post

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/486397/pts-jewelry-master-writ-changes#latest

We can see the blue writs will grant vouchers in the 28-29 range, purple master writs will grant between 175-200 vouchers and the gold master writs will grant 575-666 vouchers.
The change isn't retroactive. I just deleted all of the old jewelry master writs: why do one that grants 300 vouchers if after U23 I can do another that grants 600 vouchers?

I need to remember that these are not live yet. They didn't seem different, so I forgot about it. I look forward to this change then.

tmbrinks · July 2019

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Thanks to our mate @tmbrinks we can have an insight regarding the new jewelry master writs.
I think they are worth doing. According to the post

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/486397/pts-jewelry-master-writ-changes#latest

We can see the blue writs will grant vouchers in the 28-29 range, purple master writs will grant between 175-200 vouchers and the gold master writs will grant 575-666 vouchers.
The change isn't retroactive. I just deleted all of the old jewelry master writs: why do one that grants 300 vouchers if after U23 I can do another that grants 600 vouchers?

I need to remember that these are not live yet. They didn't seem different, so I forgot about it. I look forward to this change then.

Yup, not live yet. Will be live on PC on August 12, and on Consoles August 27.