What is the reason memento's are disabled in PvP

Knootewoot · January 2018

I cannot find it, curse me.

Why was is bad to have memento's in PVP?

I loved it when people used:
- calling crows to feed on their victims
- drew that huge fire battle axe when they destroyed you
- etc

I cannot find the reason why they did remove this. Some people, like me, 95% PvP and non-combat pets, memento's have totally no value. But it was fun in PvP.

Marabornwingrion · January 2018

Lag.

Knootewoot · January 2018

Astrid_V wrote: »

Lag.

Meh is that the reason? I hope they will someday put it back if they find the real lag issue. Thanks though

Qbiken · January 2018

If I recall it correctly there was a way to use mementos in PvP (specific mementos could be used to exploit stuff, but ZOS never went out and said what it was in detail) so it would give you an advantage in combat. ZOS therefore disabled the ability to use them in Cyrodil.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · January 2018

There is one that makes you invisible.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · January 2018

Some gave you combat buffs and created NPCs which had collision too. Just like pets which had collision and didn't observe stealth mechanics.

Anazasi · January 2018

there is one that gives you the same light over your head like a scroll. It was probably the best one ever for pvp....decoys.....

DeadlyRecluse · January 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

there is one that gives you the same light over your head like a scroll. It was probably the best one ever for pvp....decoys.....

Back when PvP actually supported 100s of people on each side fighting in the same place, it was occasionally used to have one "crown" to stack on for 2+ raids, too.

Lucky28 · January 2018

Qbiken wrote: »

If I recall it correctly there was a way to use mementos in PvP (specific mementos could be used to exploit stuff, but ZOS never went out and said what it was in detail) so it would give you an advantage in combat. ZOS therefore disabled the ability to use them in Cyrodil.

i don't think it was a exploit. just people putting down cake to grief people if anything.

imredneckson · January 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

there is one that gives you the same light over your head like a scroll. It was probably the best one ever for pvp....decoys.....

^ this I used it any time we ran a scroll.

AnviOfVai · January 2018

I would also say lag. Cyrodiil has enough to deal with as it is.

Zagnut123Zagnut123 · January 2018

Knootewoot wrote: »

I cannot find it, curse me.

Why was is bad to have memento's in PVP?

I loved it when people used:
- calling crows to feed on their victims
- drew that huge fire battle axe when they destroyed you
- etc

I cannot find the reason why they did remove this. Some people, like me, 95% PvP and non-combat pets, memento's have totally no value. But it was fun in PvP.

There are mementos that have collision allowing you to jump on top of them an get out of the map in some areas. I don't know for sure if it's the reason but it could be.

Serjustin19 · January 2018

AnviOfVai wrote: »

I would also say lag. Cyrodiil has enough to deal with as it is.

I also miss the original deer in Cyrodiil. But Deer to was blamed, for lag as well.

Galalin · January 2018

I remember when you could use the crows on a corpse and they would not be able to be rezzed

Ragnarock41 · January 2018

Knootewoot wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

Lag.

Meh is that the reason? I hope they will someday put it back if they find the real lag issue. Thanks though

they don't know what causes the lag, and as a result they do some weird changes like that.
Either that or something they didn't really like.
They're out of ideas really, truth is, they do need to hire some professionals for this lag issue.

deer, pets, mementos, there is no end to this.

ishilb14_ESO · January 2018

The reason was not lag at all. Some of them could be used in ways that gave players an unfair advantage. For example, the "Fetish of Anger" was causing players to do more damage on their next hit. Rather than go back and check each one and try to figure out how to keep them the same in PvE, while removing any direct benefits to PvP, ZOS just decided to disable them entirely. They did try to fix them one by one as they figured them out but in the end, the express solution was used.

Ragnarock41 · January 2018

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

The reason was not lag at all. Some of them could be used in ways that gave players an unfair advantage. For example, the "Fetish of Anger" was causing players to do more damage on their next hit. Rather than go back and check each one and try to figure out how to keep them the same in PvE, while removing any direct benefits to PvP, ZOS just decided to disable them entirely. They did try to fix them one by one as they figured them out but in the end, the express solution was used.

you mean the %5 fire damage on your next hit was op? I find it hard to believe.

illutian · April 2019

I'm necroing...don't give a hoot.

Either allow us to use them or make things like the Celebration Cake a non memento...this is stupid to have to port out of Cryo ever 2 hours.

Destyran · April 2019

Knootewoot wrote: »

I cannot find it, curse me.

Why was is bad to have memento's in PVP?

I loved it when people used:
- calling crows to feed on their victims
- drew that huge fire battle axe when they destroyed you
- etc

I cannot find the reason why they did remove this. Some people, like me, 95% PvP and non-combat pets, memento's have totally no value. But it was fun in PvP.

There is a memento that gives weapon damage a disguise that makes you invisible another momento stuns you a little stacking the cake outside a keep door prevents players from entering keeps Another momento does 10% hp damage etc they were used by toxic people to be exploited and grief players

IzzyStardust · April 2019

Anazasi wrote: »

there is one that gives you the same light over your head like a scroll. It was probably the best one ever for pvp....decoys.....

and that was FUNNY! I mean you only had to look at the map but....

Xarc · April 2019

Knootewoot wrote: »

Why was is bad to have memento's in PVP?

Performances

pcar944 · April 2019

a while back when they were adding new ones they messed something up and certain momentos did some things to your character, its been a while, and its happened multiple times

so instead of fixing them, they disabled mementos in Cyrodil

Firstmep · April 2019

I wouldnt mind the jubilee cake being enabled.

This is mainly beacuse i like to lvl new characthers/skill lines in IC.

InvictusApollo · April 2019

At least we still have emotes.

ZOS_RogerJ · April 2019

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